What would happen if the FA told FIFA

[Guest Red Mist]

FIFA has rejected the FA's request to punish divers retrospectively and revoke bookings that were issued unfairly, i.e. the player made no contact with the diver but was booked anyway.

 

The FA has made a noble request, very much in the spirit of fair play and sportsmanship, and FIFA has chucked it right back in our face. This tells you that FIFA does not share the English fondness of fair play and our loathing of cheats.

The FA has a duty to protect the values of our football, these values may not be shared by other countries whose football fans tolerate or even support unsavoury things like diving and play acting. They've been weened on that sh*t and don't know any better. We however, are not like that and in general find such behaviour to be disgusting and against our code of conduct.

 

FIFA is evidently corrupt and/or incompetent. They value their officials so highly that even to suggest they be given a little post-match video help with their dodgy decisions is considered heresy.

In such cases, those who know they are right and morally correct need to fight their cause even against the overpowering tyrants that oppose it.

The FA and English football fans need to fight this cause, all the way, even if it means breaking away from FIFA.

 

What would happen if we were to do this? What's the worst these European bureaucrats can do to us?

[Cobs]

 

What would happen if we were to do this? What's the worst these European bureaucrats can do to us?

kick our National team out of all European Championships and World Cups and ban all our clubs from European competitions, with the obvious knock on effect in lost revenue & top players leaving our league.

 

 

other than that nothing.

 

 

so F*CK 'EM, LET'S GO FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest Red Mist]

kick our National team out of all European Championships and World Cups and ban all our clubs from European competitions, with the obvious knock on effect in lost revenue & top players leaving our league.

other than that nothing.

so F*CK 'EM, LET'S GO FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!!

Frankly that's too much power for any one organisation to have. I thought their job was to administer international football, they should have no say in European club football. That should be UEFAs domain alone.

 

FIFAs near-autocratic power is partly why I'm a supporter of the G14. This group don't seem to be too popular with some Reds here if the last G14 thread is anything to go by, but the group at least stands up to Blatter and his cronies. They put the interest of the clubs first and despise FIFAs attempts to rule football with an iron fist. More power to the G14.

[stressederic]

Civil War without end.

 

Oh wait no... I'm confusing FIFA and the Jedi again.

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

Civil War without end.

 

Oh wait no... I'm confusing FIFA and the Jedi again.

 

I do it all the time. An easy error to make

[stressederic]

I do it all the time. An easy error to make

 

I know. Yoda, Sepp Blatter, it's easy to see how it happens.

[smithdown]

This tells you that FIFA does not share the English fondness of fair play and our loathing of cheats.

The FA has a duty to protect the values of our football, these values may not be shared by other countries whose football fans tolerate or even support unsavoury things like diving and play acting. They've been weened on that sh*t and don't know any better. We however, are not like that and in general find such behaviour to be disgusting and against our code of conduct.

 

In such cases, those who know they are right and morally correct need to fight their cause even against the overpowering tyrants that oppose it.

 

What would happen if we were to do this? What's the worst these European bureaucrats can do to us?

 

I think God would surely be on the side of the Righteous, so we'd sing hosannas and crush the infidels, no sweat.

 

They eat snail-heads dipped in garlic as well, the dirty gets. Horses arses also.

 

And their music is crap.

Edited April 19, 2006 by smithdown

[Owen1978]

Glad they said no to the FA!, bunch of tw4ts (FA) - Asking for favours when last year UEFA where asking them to let us back in the CL and drop everton.

 

But noooo they stood there ground and made us qualify from stage 1! The FA cant f*ck off as far as im concerned!

 

The FA has a duty to protect the values of our football

 

Like nominating the champions of europe to defend their crown, for example?

[John am Rhein]

This tells you that FIFA does not share the English fondness of fair play and our loathing of cheats.

 

 

Hats off to FIFA! England can f*ck off!

[Lee W]

Means diddly really. The FA will just 'direct' our referees to clamp down on it more harshly. Just like our European cousins seem to do with fouls.

 

An interpretation issue this will become.

[L19red]

the problem is that diving is really just another form of foul play. Players handle the ball to get an advantage and sometimes get away with it, players foul opponents to get an advantage and sometimes they get away with it. The idea that diving is the only way that players deliberately cheat is wrong and pretty soon you would end up with every decision being analysed for deliberate intent as opposed to an instinctive movement.

[John am Rhein]

the problem is that diving is really just another form of foul play. Players handle the ball to get an advantage and sometimes get away with it, players foul opponents to get an advantage and sometimes they get away with it. The idea that diving is the only way that players deliberately cheat is wrong and pretty soon you would end up with every decision being analysed for deliberate intent as opposed to an instinctive movement.

 

This is the real valid point on this subject, IMO.

 

The hysteria about diving generally implies that it's somehow worse than kicking people.

[Cobs]

 

The hysteria about diving generally implies that it's somehow worse than kicking people.

that's cos it is

[John am Rhein]

that's cos it is

 

B*llocks!

[Cobs]

B*llocks!

 

well, that's me convinced.

[John am Rhein]

 

well, that's me convinced.

 

Right-thinking people agree with me - that's all that matters.

[Cobs]

[Knox_Harrington]

Would agree with you.

[L19red]

B*llocks!

kicking people in the b******s is definately worse than diving. You should get a red card for that, just a yellow for diving.

[ManxRed]

Chelsea would get relegated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Possibly.

[smithdown]

kicking people in the b******s is definately worse than diving. You should get a red card for that, just a yellow for diving.

 

 

diving on a players bo**ocks should be a straight red though, no question.

[mm2259]

FIFA has rejected the FA's request to punish divers retrospectively and revoke bookings that were issued unfairly, i.e. the player made no contact with the diver but was booked anyway.

 

The FA has made a noble request, very much in the spirit of fair play and sportsmanship, and FIFA has chucked it right back in our face. This tells you that FIFA does not share the English fondness of fair play and our loathing of cheats.

The FA has a duty to protect the values of our football, these values may not be shared by other countries whose football fans tolerate or even support unsavoury things like diving and play acting. They've been weened on that sh*t and don't know any better. We however, are not like that and in general find such behaviour to be disgusting and against our code of conduct.

 

FIFA is evidently corrupt and/or incompetent. They value their officials so highly that even to suggest they be given a little post-match video help with their dodgy decisions is considered heresy.

In such cases, those who know they are right and morally correct need to fight their cause even against the overpowering tyrants that oppose it.

The FA and English football fans need to fight this cause, all the way, even if it means breaking away from FIFA.

 

What would happen if we were to do this? What's the worst these European bureaucrats can do to us?

 

Firstly FIFA are the World Football governing body so they are not European Bureaucrats. Secondly, the FA are just covering their own bureaucratic behinds by making their "noble request". Now that they have been told where to go by FIFA they can wash their hands of it and blame FIFA for their own failure to make their own referees crack down on foul play. Thirdly, this sort of foul play is not new in this country. It has been going on for many years, the difference being that in the 60's, 70's and 80's we didn't have 47 cameras at every match and a studio full of f*ckwits desperately spouting off at the slightest infrinfgement. And finally, you might want to consider a career with Talksport where they love this sort of xenophobic claptrap.....