Guest Red Mist Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 Gerrard calls for midfield chance Liverpool's Steven Gerrard says being played out of position for England stops him reproducing his club form for the national team. Chelsea's Frank Lampard tends to get the nod ahead of Gerrard as England's attacking midfielder player, with Gerrard in a more withdrawn role. "I'm not saying I should play in that role before Frank, he deserves that position," he told the Daily Mail. "But if I got a few games there I could find the form I show for my club."http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...ool/4867368.stm Stevie is being way too modest and diplomatic towards his chav mate. He's even contradicting himself a bit by saying he doesn't deserve to be ahead of Lampard yet at the same time is asking to play in the same position. For me, there is no contest. Gerrard is 10 times the player Fat Frank is and the sooner that idiot Sven stops messing Gerrard about to accommodate that 'Supergoals' pr*ck, the better England's chances at the world cup.
Guest Budo Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 He is, at this moment in time, a better attacking player than Lampard.
jariiiiiiiiiise Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 no surprise chelsea are struggling with big frank well off form at the moment no many people picked this up yet and a concern for england still gerrards a better player when franks on form
Guest ziggystardust Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 He is, at this moment in time, a better attacking player than Lampard. what does that mean, he is a far superior player all round not just in an attacking sense.
chrisbonnie Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 Fat Frank only plays well against the gimpy teams of the premiership Stevie plays his game no matter who its against, Gerrard every bloody time
Scally Bob Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 At Old Toilet Stevie needs to put in the performance of his life. He wants to sort that fat chav out once and for all-forget being Ingerlund buddies, put him on the running track. If he does that he can claim his proper position in the World Cup. Our midfield, on blob, will be all over theirs but Gerrard needs to lead the way. Souness never had any mates on the pitch.
Lee W Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 Souness never had any mates on the pitch. And that included his own team-mates.
RedMarauder Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 Souness never had any mates on the pitch. Used lots of 'mates' off the pitch though, hence the heart problems
Cobs Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 Gerrard admits he's not been as good as Lampard.... Gerrard is one of The Premiership's most spectacular performers on his day, but the 25-year-old says his role for England has prevented him from recapturing such form on the international stage. However Gerrard was keen to underline that Lampard fully deserved being handed the bulk of the attacking responsibilities due to his superb form for The Blues and England. "I feel I have to alter my game when I join up with England because I'm not playing in the position I do for Liverpool," Gerrard told The Daily Mail. "I feel that's maybe why I haven't set the world alight playing for England. "Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to sit here and say I should play before Frank Lampard. "He's been absolutely tremendous over the past few years and credit to him, he deserve to play in that position. "But I'm confident enough in my own ability to know that if I got two or three games in that role I could find the consistency I show for my club."
Ombudsam Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 Gerrard's better than Lampard but i can't believe they haven't worked out how to play together effectively. They're f*cking simple.
Guest AdamS Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 Best thing that could happen for England's world cup chances is for Fat Frank to get injured.
Ombudsam Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 Best thing that could happen for England's world cup chances is for Fat Frank to get injured. is that a turn of phrase or do you mean that
Earl Hafler Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 Fat Frank only plays well against the gimpy teams of the premiership Stevie plays his game no matter who its against, Gerrard every bloody time Don't be daft.
Guest AdamS Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 is that a turn of phrase or do you mean thatI mean that. Carrick and Gerrard would offer England a lot more balance than they currently have.
Ombudsam Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 I mean that. Carrick and Gerrard would offer England a lot more balance than they currently have. Surely the Best thing that could happen for England's world cup chances would be for Ronaldinho, henry, messi to shoot the rest of their squads and then do time. But on a less fantastical level surely the best thing is for the two of them to stop playing like simpletons and harness what they have or to change the formation or just to drop one. I don't think that one of your best players being injured is an aid.
Guest AdamS Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 surely the best thing is for the two of them to stop playing like simpletons and harness what they have or to change the formation or just to drop one. I don't think that one of your best players being injured is an aid.But they won't drop Lampard unless he gets injured. That's what I was getting at.
Benzo-13 Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 Gerrard is miles better tha Lampard. Stamina, work-rate, pace, shooting, passing, team-work.. There's no better midfielder.
Earl Hafler Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 Gerrard is miles better tha Lampard. Stamina, work-rate, pace, shooting, passing, team-work.. There's no better midfielder. Gerrard definitely works harder, is quicker and far better in the tackle but shooting and passing ? I think Lampard is definitely a better shooter, especially from set pieces. They are both excellent passers of the ball.
Ombudsam Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 But they won't drop Lampard unless he gets injured. That's what I was getting at. I don't think that Lampard being out is the only or best way we can improve that's all.
Benzo-13 Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 Gerrard definitely works harder, is quicker and far better in the tackle but shooting and passing ? I think Lampard is definitely a better shooter, especially from set pieces. They are both excellent passers of the ball. I don't think Lampard has Gerrard's range or vision in passing but in the shooting I reckon Stevie's got the harder shot but FL's are more accurate.
liverbird04 Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 doesn't matter anyway the lack of a quality defensive midfielder like hamman, or makelele is what will ruin englands chances ,I certainly don't think either carrick or parker are the answer ,I would rather see carragher doing that role than either of them two .
Rimbeux Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 I don't think Lampard has Gerrard's range or vision in passing but in the shooting I reckon Stevie's got the harder shot but FL's are more accurate. Aye, I struggle to remember any lampard dream balls
RedLars Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 It's about what?s best for the team though. Because Gerrard is, unlike Lampard, very versatile he can play in most position and excel. It?s just like with Liverpool, Gerrard is in my opinion better (and different) than Sissoko and Alonso but sometimes he is played out wide (RM) for the best of the team.
Ombudsam Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 Aye, I struggle to remember any lampard dream balls I've seen him hit loads of great passes. One that comes to mind is to Joe Cole against arsenal at highbury and cole ended up scoring. Lampard's got a lovely pass on him but i reckon stevie's outright vision is better.
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