boohog Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 Haven't seen this mentioned anywhere but this letter was in the mailbox of football 365 today: Footy365A Complaint From Someone Who Didn't See What They Were Complaining AboutAm I the only person to be quite literally gobsmacked and disgusted over the Liverpool fans on Soccer AM Saturday morning? They over and over chanted the tune to Johnny Cash's 'Ring of fire' which is a direct taunt to Manchester United?s Munich air disaster. I for one want to see LFC doing something about this and banning these so called 'fans', and Sky issuing a formal apology to all involved with Manchester United ASAP for this appalling act of sheer sickening disrespect. This is one of the best shows on TV at the moment but there needs to be some control over the invited fans' behaviour during a live show. I didn't see the show but a gooner mate of mine says even he could not believe what he was hearing.Peter Keating, Dublin
cymrococh Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 Wish I'd never f*cking said anything now. I was just pointing out that I've heard people sing Munich lyrics to it, more than once. Maybe the bloke who wrote the letter has as well.
Lee W Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 (edited) Agree with Mike - it's feck all to do with Munich (originally) and totally reworded by the nouveau Scally brigade. Probably the same c*nts that sprayed that sickening sh*t all over Melwood. Think ROF's origins are before that Fulham away game aswell. Birmingham away 2003-04 (??) if I remember right... Edited March 16, 2006 by Lee W
Ostrich Man Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 also, by your thought process, does it now become a Michael Shields song, since Utd fans have appropriated it and added their own lyrics about him getting 15 years?yes it does.....when sung in those circumstances. its not that hard to understand is it?
Stew F Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 Stevie and Carra sang it after the EC final didnt they? I'll bet Man United and Munich would have been the last thing on their mind at that time. This is the first i've heard of the song being about that, and the next time I sing it Munich wont even enter my head.
Ostrich Man Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 Stevie and Carra sang it after the EC final didnt they? I'll bet Man United and Munich would have been the last thing on their mind at that time. This is the first i've heard of the song being about that, and the next time I sing it Munich wont even enter my head.somewhere in the back of your mind it will creep in....and lo a tear will roll silently down your cheek.
jimmylibel Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 (edited) I agree with OM, if someone sings the Munich version then it's a Munich song. If they sing the original then it isn't. Simple really. I have to say, reading the lyrics posted I do think I have heard that sung at some point. And I only get over a couple of times a season. That said it's more likely I heard some Irish Reds singing it in a bar in Dublin or sommat. Edited March 16, 2006 by jimmylibel
Ostrich Man Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 I agree with OM, if someone sings the Munich version then it's a Munich song. If they sing the original then it isn't. Simple really.christ on a bike.....at last....didnt think it was that difficult to understand....takes the Irish eh Jimmy... That said it's more likely I heard some Irish Reds singing it in a bar in Dublin or sommat.i agree with RP on those scummy c**** though
jimmylibel Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 christ on a bike.....at last....didnt think it was that difficult to understand....takes the Irish eh Jimmy... Shhhhhh, people will be calling me an Irish Red now.... no greater insult in the LFC vocabulary.
Guest Noodles Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 I always thought it was Carra`s dad and mates had a johnny cash tape in the car going to an away game and started singing along to it,and began singing it on the Kop and it soon caught on. Also Johnny Cash never wrote it,it was in fact his wife June Carter,wrote it for him.
Buzz Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 I always thought it was Carra`s dad and mates had a johnny cash tape in the car going to an away game and started singing along to it,and began singing it on the Kop and it soon caught on. Also Johnny Cash never wrote it,it was in fact his wife June Carter,wrote it for him. She wrote the words and she said it was how she felt after their love making....
Ostrich Man Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 Johnnys Reply song "well use some KY then" never really took off
Coyler Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 I always thought it was Carra`s dad and mates had a johnny cash tape in the car going to an away game and started singing along to it,and began singing it on the Kop and it soon caught on.Was it before this or after this that they all went back in time and got Shamrock Rovers fans to sing it all throughout the early nineties?
Guest Noodles Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 Johnnys Reply song "well use some KY then" never really took off
Ostrich Man Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 Was it before this or after this that they all went back in time and got Shamrock Rovers fans to sing it all throughout the early nineties?sure you nicked YNWA from celtic anyway....and if i can remember right UTD sang it before you lot anyway
Guest Noodles Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 Was it before this or after this that they all went back in time and got Shamrock Rovers fans to sing it all throughout the early nineties? Judging by the car they travelled in i`d say they could of gone back anytime mate.
hagi_complex Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 That letter has to be a pisstake. I've personally never heard the Munich verses in Dublin or Liverpool or indeed any references to Ring of Fire being a Munich song. None of the Dublin supporters that I know have either.
boohog Posted March 16, 2006 Author Posted March 16, 2006 (edited) yes i know....plus it doesnt mean it has to be retired....personally sounds like made up s*** tome....but it can be called a munich song if people sing those lyrics. Simple as that.......dont see it as such myself...same way i dont see the fields of athenryas a liverpool song. so mike youve never heard them words before....er so?.....you calling sion a lying welsh freak? By the same tenuous argument, the guy that posted the letter on F365 could be called deaf. And a Manc. Because some deaf people lied about Stevie Finnan. And they were Mancs. edit - blind, lol Edited March 16, 2006 by boohog
Coyler Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 sure you nicked YNWA from celtic anyway....and if i can remember right UTD sang it before you lot anyway That was beautiful, that indignant lady's letter to that Manchester paper. "Imagine my shock and disgust when I heard Liverpool fans claiming that song for their own. I remember quite clearly..."
boohog Posted March 16, 2006 Author Posted March 16, 2006 That was beautiful, that indignant lady's letter to that Manchester paper. "Imagine my shock and disgust when I heard Liverpool fans claiming that song for their own. I remember quite clearly..." And lo, history was rewritten.
Guest RedDwarf Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 is it f*** a munich songfirst heard it at the league cup final and it never had any words at all those words are retrofitted Is the right answer.....nothing else to see here. Der der der der der der der der!!!
allez les rouges Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 And lo, history was rewritten.from memory it has been proven time and time and time again that we were the first to sing it. and its ours.
Coyler Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 from memory it has been proven time and time and time again that we were the first to sing it. and its ours.Withoot a doobt. The brazenness of this Lancashire housewife and her 100%-certain memory was hilarious, though. Good wind-up. I think it was around the same time as the long-running (and equally spurious) Knowledge debate in the Guardian about Liverpool's and Celtic's claims to the thing. I know a man who once sang the lyrics of Ring of Fire to YNWA, too .
allez les rouges Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 Withoot a doobt. The brazenness of this Lancashire housewife and her 100%-certain memory was hilarious, though. Good wind-up. I think it was around the same time as the long-running (and equally spurious) Knowledge debate in the Guardian about Liverpool's and Celtic's claims to the thing.I know a man who once sang the lyrics of Ring of Fire to YNWA, too . Its ours, praise be to God. was having walking to a mate about this ring of fire a few moments ago. His mate tells him that wigan fans are claimant ring of fire to be theres?????? anyone heard of this be before.
Ostrich Man Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 was having walking to a mate about this ring of fire a few moments ago. eh? By the same tenuous argument, the guy that posted the letter on F365 could be called deaf. And a Manc. Because some deaf people lied about Stevie Finnan. And they were Mancs. edit - blind, loland again eh? what tenuous argument?
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