Guest Red Mist Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 The FA rules regarding sending offs (via 2 yellows) and the non-right to appeal even when justified is outrageous, draconian and must be scrapped. We have now lost a valuable player for no reason at all, other than the incompetence of the referee. We should take the matter to the court of law and force the FA to change their rules so that the game can be governed more fairly.I can't fully express my disgust when thinking of that smug motherf***** Bennet who's not man enough to admit his mistake and ask the FA to rescind the second yellow. What a b*****d. I hope his sins mark him, his children and his children's children! But really the FA should already have in place means to overrule a corrupt ref. That they don't is an issue of grave concern and the only way to challenge these stupid rules is to go down the route of Bosman and take the game to the high court. We'd be doing ourselves and the English game a favour.
Gomez Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 The FA rules regarding sending offs (via 2 yellows) and the non-right to appeal even when justified is outrageous, draconian and must be scrapped. We have now lost a valuable player for no reason at all, other than the incompetence of the referee. We should take the matter to the court of law and force the FA to change their rules so that the game can be governed more fairly.I can't fully express my disgust when thinking of that smug motherf***** Bennet who's not man enough to admit his mistake and ask the FA to rescind the second yellow. What a b*****d. I hope his sins mark him, his children and his children's children! But really the FA should already have in place means to overrule a corrupt ref. That they don't is an issue of grave concern and the only way to challenge these stupid rules is to go down the route of Bosman and take the game to the high court. We'd be doing ourselves and the English game a favour. Article on newsnow somewhere, possible from 365 that the FA's refusal to punish Xabi for refusing to leave the pitch is tantamount to accepting he shouldn't have been dismissed. Bennett is a c*ck, he has refused to reverse his decision in his match report, and in fact whinged to the FA that he should be punished further because he had the audacity to question bennetts blantant incorrect decision. FIFA / the FA are a joke in crying 'human fallibility' everytime one of their officials c**k-up and ruin the spectacle people have paid millions of pounds to watch, but then implementing systems that do not allow those errors to be corrected.
Guest Red Mist Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 Why does fecking FIFA have jurisdiction in our domestic game? It's ludicrous that a bloody Swiss can decide how the game in England or anywhere else should be run.Take FIFA to court too, force them to relinquish the stranglehold they have over us. If Bosman can do it then so can we.
Paul B Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 We should take the matter to the court of law and force the FA to change their rules so that the game can be governed more fairly.I can't fully express my disgust when thinking of that smug motherf***** Bennet who's not man enough to admit his mistake and ask the FA to rescind the second yellow. What a b*****d. I hope his sins mark him, his children and his children's children! "D is for the dunderheads who seem to think we have a vendetta against their particular team.""M is for the mistakes we somtimes make. Surely a bit of controversy is good for the game."The Referee's Alphabet. Half Man Half Biscuit. My my, the Red Mist really has descended, hasn't it?
Hightown Phil Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 Uzbekistan v Bahrain was replayed because of a serious refereeing error that effected the outcome of the game.
Gray - YPC Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 What game will he miss? It's a f***ing joke, but who actually expected that horrible, arrogant, blind, k****ead, prick of a c*** to actually accept he was wrong?
Gomez Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 "D is for the dunderheads who seem to think we have a vendetta against their particular team.""M is for the mistakes we somtimes make. Surely a bit of controversy is good for the game."The Referee's Alphabet. Half Man Half Biscuit. My my, the Red Mist really has descended, hasn't it? As said above, the human error argument is redundant when the processes put in place by FIFA / FA do not allow for human error. And no, controvesy is not good for the game. And I don't think Red Mist ever said bennett had a vendetta against us, just incompetant, which he was as was clearly trying to appease the home team/crowd after they whinged about our goal.
Paul B Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 As said above, the human error argument is redundant when the processes put in place by FIFA / FA do not allow for human error. Wow, that's some legislation that doesn't allow for human error. Who'd want to be a referee under such circumstances?
Guest Red Mist Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 It's far worse for the referees if their mistakes are publicised and not rectified afterwards, than it is to admit an error has been made and the unjust punishment being revoked on the back of that admission.
Paul B Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 It's far worse for the referees if their mistakes are publicised and not rectified afterwards, than it is to admit an error has been made and the unjust punishment being revoked on the back of that admission. And in the cold light of day would you still stand by the following assertion you made? "I can't fully express my disgust when thinking of that smug motherf***** Bennet who's not man enough to admit his mistake and ask the FA to rescind the second yellow. What a b*****d. I hope his sins mark him, his children and his children's children!"
Guest Red Mist Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 And in the cold light of day would you still stand by the following assertion you made? "I can't fully express my disgust when thinking of that smug motherf***** Bennet who's not man enough to admit his mistake and ask the FA to rescind the second yellow. What a b*****d. I hope his sins mark him, his children and his children's children!"Obviously I wouldn't hold that opinion of him had he been big enough to rectify his mistake.Why are you so protective of the b*****d anyway? Are you Jeff Winter?
dodgy1 Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 The FA rules regarding sending offs (via 2 yellows) and the non-right to appeal even when justified is outrageous, draconian and must be scrapped. We have now lost a valuable player for no reason at all, other than the incompetence of the referee. We should take the matter to the court of law and force the FA to change their rules so that the game can be governed more fairly.I can't fully express my disgust when thinking of that smug motherf***** Bennet who's not man enough to admit his mistake and ask the FA to rescind the second yellow. What a b*****d. I hope his sins mark him, his children and his children's children! But really the FA should already have in place means to overrule a corrupt ref. That they don't is an issue of grave concern and the only way to challenge these stupid rules is to go down the route of Bosman and take the game to the high court. We'd be doing ourselves and the English game a favour. s*** happens
Paul B Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 Obviously I wouldn't hold that opinion of him had he been big enough to rectify his mistake.Why are you so protective of the b*****d anyway? Are you Jeff Winter? No, I'm not Jeff Winter and neither am I being protective towards Bennet himself, just humans in general who, sometimes, make mistakes. It's the nature of the beast. If we aren't man enough to deal with the frustrations that life deals us, maybe we should do something else?
DanielS Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 No, I'm not Jeff Winter and neither am I being protective towards Bennet himself, just humans in general who, sometimes, make mistakes. It's the nature of the beast. If we aren't man enough to deal with the frustrations that life deals us, maybe we should do something else? It is true that Bennett is only human and made an honest mistake - not one made out of spite either. What irks some people though, Paul, is that he hasn't admitted the mistake when all of the evidence of the case reflects it so clearly.
Guest Red Mist Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 No, I'm not Jeff Winter and neither am I being protective towards Bennet himself, just humans in general who, sometimes, make mistakes. It's the nature of the beast. If we aren't man enough to deal with the frustrations that life deals us, maybe we should do something else?And is it also not in human nature to try to rectify mistakes that we make? I don't believe I'm being unreasonable in demanding Bennet grow a pair of balls and own up to his mistake. Not only would it help his gain some respect, it would also benefit us too. Although I suspect it's a little too late for that now.
Gomez Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 Wow, that's some legislation that doesn't allow for human error. Who'd want to be a referee under such circumstances? People who think they are infallible, have napolean complexes or just like being in the spotlight? No, I'm not Jeff Winter and neither am I being protective towards Bennet himself, just humans in general who, sometimes, make mistakes. It's the nature of the beast. If we aren't man enough to deal with the frustrations that life deals us, maybe we should do something else? Yes, humans make mistakes, the FA does not accomodate that simple fact though. The initial post was about the FA BTW, and the fact that they have a law that implies human referees do not make mistakes. Bennett could have written in his report that he made a mistake and that the yellow card should not have stood, he didn't however, as evidently he thinks he doesn't make mistakes either. How can you defend someone with the 'to err is human' arguement, when that human in particular refuses to admit it was a mistake and is therefore condemned to make it over and over again? It is true that Bennett is only human and made an honest mistake - not one made out of spite either. What irks some people though, Paul, is that he hasn't admitted the mistake when all of the evidence of the case reflects it so clearly. And the fact that he tried to compound the error by asking for the FA to take action against Xabi for not leaving the pitch. Unbelievable arrogance from one so incompetant.
richt71 Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 It is true that Bennett is only human and made an honest mistake - not one made out of spite either. What irks some people though, Paul, is that he hasn't admitted the mistake when all of the evidence of the case reflects it so clearly.According to Rafa (off. site interview) Bennett has looked at video replay's of Xabi's 2nd and still says it was a late tackle!
Ripley Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 People who think they are infallible, have napolean complexes or just like being in the spotlight?Like the topic starter, you mean?
Mike E Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 (edited) Since Xabi's sending off this forum has already determined that Bennett whilst incompetent cannot rescind the 2nd yellow by admitting he made a mistake. FIFA's new regulation only allows for a card to be rescinded in the case of mistaken identity eg, Carragher slipped and brushed into Flamini, Bennett thought it was Xabi who subsequently walks. Clearly not the case on Sunday and no argument for mistaken identity. Arsenal had us beaten (I cannot say fair and square cos some of their antics were shocking) on Sunday but somehow they contrived not to increase their lead and eventually we equalised and took a brief ascendancy. Bennett deprived us the right to see how the match will have panned out from that point. The issue of Bennett making an absolute howler will probably disappear by virtue of the fact that under the current regulations LFC simply have no recourse for appeal. IMHO LFC are duty bound to keep this issue live by any means possible for the simple fact that shocking refereeing decisions are increasingly determining the outcome of a fixture just as much as the competing teams that people have paid good money to see compete. The tight regulations are designed to factor out the human element from officiating, why then is refereeing more inconsistent than ever. The officiating of matches requires serious investigation upto and including routes for appeal. While I'm at it so does the effin offside rule in it's current guise. Edited March 14, 2006 by Mike E
Gomez Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 (edited) Since Xabi's sending off this forum has already determined that Bennett whilst incompetent cannot rescind the 2nd yellow by admitting he made a mistake. FIFA's new regulation only allows for a card to be rescinded in the case of mistaken identity eg, Carragher slipped and brushed into Flamini, Bennett thought it was Xabi who subsequently walks. Clearly not the case on Sunday and no argument for mistaken identity. I understand where you are coming from, but the fact that the FA can't do anything does not excuse the fact that he still thinks he was right and attempted to further punish Xabi for daring to argue with him (also human nature when faced with injustice). Nor does Bennett's inflated ego excuse FIFA's / FA's ridiculous self made rules. Bennett should have admitted his obvious mistake and appealled to the FA to do what they can. The FA should have overturned the booking irrespective of Bennett (and their own self appointed rules - the only follow FIFA's lead) in the face such injustice. FIFA should then not complain about the FA ignoring one if it's recommendations BECAUSE IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, and it would give the game some much needed integrity. Edited March 14, 2006 by Gomez
Ripley Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 And I don't think Red Mist ever said bennett had a vendetta against us, just incompetant, which he was as was clearly trying to appease the home team/crowd after they whinged about our goal.So when he says: "Bennet has been sucking the c0cks of these queer Gooners, the f***ing c***. Hope he goes the way of Slobbo Milsovevic while he sleeps tonight, the motherf*****."he's not actually implying any sort of vendetta in favour of Arsenal and against us?
Gomez Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 So when he says: "Bennet has been sucking the c0cks of these queer Gooners, the f***ing c***. Hope he goes the way of Slobbo Milsovevic while he sleeps tonight, the motherf*****."he's not actually implying any sort of vendetta in favour of Arsenal and against us?Nope, he's just stating fact.
Cobs Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 So when he says: "Bennet has been sucking the c0cks of these queer Gooners, the f***ing c***. Hope he goes the way of Slobbo Milsovevic while he sleeps tonight, the motherf*****."he's not actually implying any sort of vendetta in favour of Arsenal and against us?bit of a leap you're making there, Ripley............
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