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Guest Barcamania
Posted

I think he's one of the best coaches in the world. And I think he's the best tactician in the world.

But IMO he isn't the best MANAGER.

For example, I think Wenger is one of the best managers in world football, but he's poor coach(i.e. he isn't in top 10, may be even in the top 20). He can find cheap talent, he can make them play attacking play. But team organization isn't that good, never was. Arsenal never was a team like Juve, Chelsea, Valencia and Bayern. That's why they were poor in CL. With those players, some other coaches would have won alot more trophies. He is one of the best managers, good coach and an average tactician. One of his weaknesses is the fact that Arsenal hasn't a strong mentality, they're instable.

On the other hand, Benitez is, IMO, best tactician(last CL campaign with that squad :o ), one of the best coaches and an average manager. His scientific approach to the matches is very useful. He is mentally strong and his teams were/are strong mentally. His teams were/are well organized. But the problem is, you can't work in the same manner when you are a manager.

He used to work in a different way in Spain, he was a coach. As a manager, he can buy the player he wants now, but he doesn't want to overpay. If he thinks that a player is overpriced, then he doesn't buy. And that isn't the best choice IMHO. When you have possibility to buy the likes of Aimar or Villa, you can pay 4-5 millions more than their true price.

I believe, that eventually he will win EPL as a Liverpool FC manager. But it will take time, because he doesn't buy many top class players, he will wait until some young players will develope into world class players(may be Sissoko, may be some other youngsters)...

 

Many players were linked with Liverpool and I believe, that if Benitez agreed to pay 3-4 millions more, all of them would be playing for Liverpool.

Simao, Villa, Owen, Kuyt, Berbatov etc.

Posted

So you're equating his managerial skills to his ability in the transfer market? Namely, that he doesn't like to be taken the p1ss out of?

Posted

or maybe he wants 3-4 players and doesnt want to spend the little money that parry gives him on one player?

And you know how much money he has to spend, do you? You know he'd just love to splash out?

Posted

Regardless of how much money we have, we're not going to go over the top for some player. Obviously, risks sometimes are necessary, but when clubs like Benfica start trying it on, we can't get involved.

Posted

After he took over the club's in profit and the wage bill is lower then last season. Buying and selling players isnt the only thing a manager does.

 

And I doubt you have a clue what Rafa's transfer budget is. And if paying £7M for Peter Crouch isnt overpaying I dont know what is! Think we'll ever sell him for that?

Posted

I think he's one of the best coaches in the world. And I think he's the best tactician in the world.

But IMO he isn't the best MANAGER.

For example, I think Wenger is one of the best managers in world football, but he's poor coach(i.e. he isn't in top 10, may be even in the top 20). He can find cheap talent, he can make them play attacking play. But team organization isn't that good, never was. Arsenal never was a team like Juve, Chelsea, Valencia and Bayern. That's why they were poor in CL. With those players, some other coaches would have won alot more trophies. He is one of the best managers, good coach and an average tactician. One of his weaknesses is the fact that Arsenal hasn't a strong mentality, they're instable.

On the other hand, Benitez is, IMO, best tactician(last CL campaign with that squad :o ), one of the best coaches and an average manager. His scientific approach to the matches is very useful. He is mentally strong and his teams were/are strong mentally. His teams were/are well organized. But the problem is, you can't work in the same manner when you are a manager.

He used to work in a different way in Spain, he was a coach. As a manager, he can buy the player he wants now, but he doesn't want to overpay. If he thinks that a player is overpriced, then he doesn't buy. And that isn't the best choice IMHO. When you have possibility to buy the likes of Aimar or Villa, you can pay 4-5 millions more than their true price.

I believe, that eventually he will win EPL as a Liverpool FC manager. But it will take time, because he doesn't buy many top class players, he will wait until some young players will develope into world class players(may be Sissoko, may be some other youngsters)...

 

Many players were linked with Liverpool and I believe, that if Benitez agreed to pay 3-4 millions more, all of them would be playing for Liverpool.

Simao, Villa, Owen, Kuyt, Berbatov etc.

 

Simao = £7m more than they actually originally AGREED on

Villa - we don't know if we bid or not.

Owen = £8-9m more than we SOLD him for a year earlier when he f**ked us about

Kuyt = £4m more than our valuation if we were genuinely after him and not using him to push along the Crouch deal.

Berbatov = no tangible evidence we were ever after him.

 

So - that would be on three players only, £19m more than we wanted to pay - my - what a sensible strategy, should we just pull this extra £19m out of our ars*s?

 

Note Rafa buys, not counting kids who haven't played:

Josemi £2m (swap for Kromkamp)

Garcia £6.6m

Alonso £10.7m

Carson £750,000

Barragan £250.000

Morientes £6.5m

Reina £6.2m

Crouch £7.3m

Sissoko £5.6m

Agger £5.8m

 

Total : £51.950,000 in around 20 months not counting Antwe, Roque, Martin, Hobbs, Anderson, Idrizaj, or Zenden and Fowler who although on frees, still have to be paid. So even as a basement figure, he's spent an average of £13m per transfer window (4 including this one) as well as making bids of £8m for Alves and up to £10m eventually for Simao - not to mention the £4.4m we have apparently paid for Mark Gonzalez (taking actual spending to £56,350,000 not counting kids - with them, it's around £60,000,000. Considering we've only sold Owen, Diouf, Murphy and Baros of any note - total of around £19m - that's none too shabby for a club also in it up to the neck for a new stadium and community project.

 

BTW - what the hell is the EPL? It's just called the Premiership!!

Guest AnfieldGrass
Posted (edited)

My approach to your post, is that I think it's scientifically s****!

 

If Rafa paid 3 or 4 millions more for these players, then he would be considered a weak negotiator. I realise you need to simplify matters fr them to squeeze into your skull and make sense, but please leave the negotiating to those who know best.

Edited by AnfieldGrass
Posted

I think he's one of the best coaches in the world. And I think he's the best tactician in the world.

But IMO he isn't the best MANAGER.

For example, I think Wenger is one of the best managers in world football, but he's poor coach(i.e. he isn't in top 10, may be even in the top 20). He can find cheap talent, he can make them play attacking play. But team organization isn't that good, never was. Arsenal never was a team like Juve, Chelsea, Valencia and Bayern. That's why they were poor in CL. With those players, some other coaches would have won alot more trophies. He is one of the best managers, good coach and an average tactician. One of his weaknesses is the fact that Arsenal hasn't a strong mentality, they're instable.

On the other hand, Benitez is, IMO, best tactician(last CL campaign with that squad :o ), one of the best coaches and an average manager. His scientific approach to the matches is very useful. He is mentally strong and his teams were/are strong mentally. His teams were/are well organized. But the problem is, you can't work in the same manner when you are a manager.

He used to work in a different way in Spain, he was a coach. As a manager, he can buy the player he wants now, but he doesn't want to overpay. If he thinks that a player is overpriced, then he doesn't buy. And that isn't the best choice IMHO. When you have possibility to buy the likes of Aimar or Villa, you can pay 4-5 millions more than their true price.

I believe, that eventually he will win EPL as a Liverpool FC manager. But it will take time, because he doesn't buy many top class players, he will wait until some young players will develope into world class players(may be Sissoko, may be some other youngsters)...

 

Many players were linked with Liverpool and I believe, that if Benitez agreed to pay 3-4 millions more, all of them would be playing for Liverpool.

Simao, Villa, Owen, Kuyt, Berbatov etc.

 

 

You. c**k.

Posted

I think he's one of the best coaches in the world. And I think he's the best tactician in the world.

But IMO he isn't the best MANAGER.

For example, I think Wenger is one of the best managers in world football, but he's poor coach(i.e. he isn't in top 10, may be even in the top 20). He can find cheap talent, he can make them play attacking play. But team organization isn't that good, never was. Arsenal never was a team like Juve, Chelsea, Valencia and Bayern. That's why they were poor in CL. With those players, some other coaches would have won alot more trophies. He is one of the best managers, good coach and an average tactician. One of his weaknesses is the fact that Arsenal hasn't a strong mentality, they're instable.

On the other hand, Benitez is, IMO, best tactician(last CL campaign with that squad :o ), one of the best coaches and an average manager. His scientific approach to the matches is very useful. He is mentally strong and his teams were/are strong mentally. His teams were/are well organized. But the problem is, you can't work in the same manner when you are a manager.

He used to work in a different way in Spain, he was a coach. As a manager, he can buy the player he wants now, but he doesn't want to overpay. If he thinks that a player is overpriced, then he doesn't buy. And that isn't the best choice IMHO. When you have possibility to buy the likes of Aimar or Villa, you can pay 4-5 millions more than their true price.

I believe, that eventually he will win EPL as a Liverpool FC manager. But it will take time, because he doesn't buy many top class players, he will wait until some young players will develope into world class players(may be Sissoko, may be some other youngsters)...

 

Many players were linked with Liverpool and I believe, that if Benitez agreed to pay 3-4 millions more, all of them would be playing for Liverpool.

Simao, Villa, Owen, Kuyt, Berbatov etc.

 

Wenger doesn't find the talent, his contacts do. Then he decides if he wants to sign them, then Dein gets involved.

 

£3m or £4m more each ? All would have signed ?

 

Doesn't buy many top class players ? Disagree. Nearly all his signings have been very good.

 

You're not being realistic about this at all.

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