Cisse arrested

[Jeff_Q]

Talks**** reporting Cisse arrested in connection with assault on his wife

[Bootle Buck]

Now something like this will speed up his exit from Liverpool if it is true of course. Let's hope we don't have Diouf MarkII off the field as well as on.

[Stanley Leisure]

PR Disaster as well as playing one.

 

Tara Djibs.

[Cobs]

SIGN FOWLER !!!!!!!!

[smicer07]

Yeah, Fowler never got us any bad press... errrr...

[Guest Banjo]

Bear in mind that 'common assault' can mean anything from touching someone without their consent to actually hitting them. No info on what he's supposed to have actually done, so lets not get too carried away just yet....

[Kvarme Ate My Food]

Yeah, Fowler never got us any bad press... errrr...

 

pretending to sniff a line

 

or beating up a pregant women

 

yep, I can see the moral equivalence

[Boca]

would the fact that he got a caution have any bearing on the severity of the assault? Didn't he get a caution already for slapping that kid in the park? You would think if it was a serious assault he would get more than a caution.

[Cobs]

S.39 Assault covers grazes, scratches, abrasions, minor bruising, swellings, reddening of the skin, superficial cuts, black eyes

 

 

so i'd suggest it was a probably slightly more than 'touching without consent' and slightly less than defenestration.

Edited January 27, 2006 by Cobs

[WillG]

Er, I know he's playing like an old woman at the moment, but some of the responses on here are just plain ignorant.

 

Those who don't actually know what went on last night should shut the f*ck up - does innocent "until proven guilty" ring any bells?

 

Like someone said earlier "common assault" covers a wide range of sins and, is as yet, unproven.

[Jonesy]

S.39 Assault covers grazes, scratches, abrasions, minor bruising, swellings, reddening of the skin, superficial cuts, black eyes

so i'd suggest it was a probably slightly more than 'touching without consent' and slightly less than defenestration.

 

 

well what ever it was it was sufficent enough for someone to call the police.

[Ian Mc]

s*** - did he read my jury article in last nights echo ....

[Flight]

Er, I know he's playing like an old woman at the moment, but some of the responses on here are just plain ignorant.

 

Those who don't actually know what went on last night should shut the f*ck up - does innocent "until proven guilty" ring any bells?

 

Like someone said earlier "common assault" covers a wide range of sins and, is as yet, unproven.

 

 

To be fair, he has accepted a caution.

[smokescreen]

well what ever it was it was sufficent enough for someone to call the police.

 

She just wants her face in the papers...

[Boca]

Er, I know he's playing like an old woman at the moment, but some of the responses on here are just plain ignorant.

 

Those who don't actually know what went on last night should shut the f*ck up - does innocent "until proven guilty" ring any bells?

 

Like someone said earlier "common assault" covers a wide range of sins and, is as yet, unproven.

 

the fact that he accepted a caution would mean he acknowledged his guilt.

[AE]

We don't know the facts. IF he has, or does, hit her then it is wrong, but whilst there is no excuse for doing it, we have no reason to brand him a 'wife beater' from the information in the public domain. It may be a 'one off' that he learns from, if not then I hope she has the sense to walk away.

[dodgy1]

One thing's for sure his wife isn't called Annette.

[smokescreen]

that's a shyte thing to say...you probably say women who are raped deserve it

t/wat

 

 

Wind yer neck in fer christs sakes...

 

c/ock

[boohog]

that still doesn't excuse it

 

Well that entirely depends upon whether she smacked him over the head with a frying pan first doesn't it. Laws to do with abuse in the home are predisposed to protect the female. I have read many cases of violence against husbands where if they retaliate , even with a slap, they end up getting arrested and/or have their children taken away. Some women abuse their husbands for this precise reason.

 

I don't imagine that this was the circumstance here, but its a possibility, and given that noone here has any insight I think its a bit soon to take final judgement, no?

[Phil236849]

i might be wrong, but I don't understand the issue about him ACCEPTING the caution.

 

Fact is he has been cautioned. There's no acceptance issue. It's not as though anyone in their right mind would say, "warn me as much as you want, I'm not listening, I'm innocent, you'll have to prosecute me", and the police would then pass the file to the CPS.

 

I'll play devil's advocate now. Granted, all this is ugly, but he remains our player, it seems his missus is not pressing charges, and if she can forgive maybe we should as well. It might for all we know be very minor injury, and we know nothing of what happened. Any bloke harming his wife can expect flak, but should it be proportionate?

 

Another way of looking at it: if it had been an infidelity, and she'd dumped him, would we be reacting in the same way?

 

One other thing: just wondering, would anyone's reaction to this news have been different if Djibril had been a 2 goal hero of a victory last weekend?

[Case]

i might be wrong, but I don't understand the issue about him ACCEPTING the caution.

 

Fact is he has been cautioned. There's no acceptance issue. It's not as though anyone in their right mind would say, "warn me as much as you want, I'm not listening, I'm innocent, you'll have to prosecute me", and the police would then pass the file to the CPS.

 

I'll play devil's advocate now. Granted, all this is ugly, but he remains our player, it seems his missus is not pressing charges, and if she can forgive maybe we should as well. It might for all we know be very minor injury, and we know nothing of what happened. Any bloke harming his wife can expect flak, but should it be proportionate?

 

Another way of looking at it: if it had been an infidelity, and she'd dumped him, would we be reacting in the same way?

 

One other thing: just wondering, would anyone's reaction to this news have been different if Djibril had been a 2 goal hero of a victory last weekend?

 

To answer your last point, and because I've had 2nd hand personal experience of this I can say with 100% honesty that if this had been about Gerrard, Xabi, Carragher, Kenny Dalglish, Bill Shankly I would feel the same.

[anfield]

No doubt if this had been Gerrard people woudl be saying lets wait till the facts come out etc etc. Its easy to condemn him cause he's s**** on the field.

He may have accepted the caution to avoid dragging this thing out in public.

Having said this if he did indeed beat his pregnant wife then he can well piss off. dont want that kind on our team

[boohog]

Common assault is a common law offence. However by section 42 (and section 47) of the Offences Against the Persons Act (OAPA) a person committing any common assault or battery may be imprisoned or compelled to pay fines and costs. Section 42 therefore implies that there are offences committed either when someone is put in fear of unlawful violence (assault) or when there is an unlawful application of force to the person of another (battery).

 

In reality, common assault is only used in situations where a blow or another application of force is struck, but when no actual injury results.

[Pam]

Well that entirely depends upon whether she smacked him over the head with a frying pan first doesn't it. Laws to do with abuse in the home are predisposed to protect the female. I have read many cases of violence against husbands where if they retaliate , even with a slap, they end up getting arrested and/or have their children taken away. Some women abuse their husbands for this precise reason.

 

I don't imagine that this was the circumstance here, but its a possibility, and given that noone here has any insight I think its a bit soon to take final judgement, no?

 

I'm fairly sure there is more wife beating than husband beating in the world and the relative sizes of men vs women makes men hitting women worthy of a serious response more than assuming that she deserved it or just wanted "her face in the papers" as some kind person posted before.

 

we don't know what happened. I hope he is not guilty of it as i don't wish domestic abuse on anyone. He was arrested and the police deemed it serious enough to issue a cuation which he accepted. He has gone down in my estimation just as any other player accused of this would in the circumstances, his recent performances are irrelevant.

[Guest StereoManics]

S.39 Assault covers grazes, scratches, abrasions, minor bruising, swellings, reddening of the skin, superficial cuts, black eyes

so i'd suggest it was a probably slightly more than 'touching without consent' and slightly less than defenestration.

 

A section 39 assault is in reference to an assault on a persons personal property wittch causes intimidation.