Man Utd, the biggest club in the world

[Guest Red Mist]

I'm sick of hearing this sh*t about ManUre. Where the hell did this laughable, downright inaccurate title come from? Even some Reds here say we are second to ManUre as the biggest in the country!

Nobody was calling them the world's biggest club before they actually started to win things again at the start of the 90's. In fact, before then they weren't even the considered the biggest club in England (although you'll often hear Mancs claiming the country recognised them as the biggest even though they were utter sh*te in them days).

 

How do 'they' measure size anyway? Is it their 'global fans'? Like the millions of Japs who once worshipped them...only to transfer their allegienace to Real Madrid once Beckham f*cked off there?

Number of fans don't matter at all, otherwise clubs like Napoli and Dortmand can claim to be bigger than ManUre because they get more fans into their stadiums.

 

The only true measure of size, greatness or whatever else you want to call it is the type of trophies you have and the number of times you've won the most valuable ones. And by that criteria, ManUre don't even come close to being the best in England, let alone the world.

 

WE are the biggest club in this country, and until someone wins more LEAGUE titles and EUROPEAN CUPS than us, we will remain the biggest. Only Real Madrid (and maybe AC Milan) can claim to be bigger than us, the rest, including the TWO time European Cup winners (ha!) ManUre can f*** off.

 

I hope we batter these c*nts on Sunday just to remind them and their deluded f*cking supporters that the EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS are the greatest club in the land, and not them.

[R A Softlad]

I think the 'title' came from the finance/value side of things although now that's not even true. Although some would have it that they have a biger fan base.

 

They will always be the second when it comes to trophy haul and real footballing success.

 

Interesting that when you travel you mention you are from Liverpool people say either 'great football club' or 'the Beatles' - you mention Man U and you used to hear 'Oh Beckham' and now 'oh Rooney' - it's always about individuals rather than the club.

[realtarragona]

I wouldn't determine the size of a club purely by success. You have to consider other things too like fanbase, money and so on. They're the bigger club, we're the most successful, sounds fair enough to me.

[Guest Red Mist]

I wouldn't determine the size of a club purely by success. You have to consider other things too like fanbase, money and so on. They're the bigger club, we're the most successful, sounds fair enough to me.

This depends on how you define 'bigger'. Success is the key element in my opinion. We don't lose much in comparasion when it comes to fan base, and they're not exactly well off anymore either.

[Ostrich Man]

id rather be successful than "big"

 

 

still good to get it off your chest....i was never too sure where you stood on that question

[StevieC]

was originally based on market capitalisation wasn't it? Rendering most of the clubs that hadn't sold out out of the equation.

[Spike]

THey have Ostrich man and Zoe ball, we have Tarby and Kirsty Gallagher.

 

THey have OM and we have Jonesy

 

7 and 7 is?

[growler]

I think you have to admit that they are a 'big' club. Whether they are bigger than us, I doubt it, but the size of their international 'machine' is bigger than ours.

 

Also, if you went on trophy haul alone, you could claim that notts forest are bigger than arsenal and chelsea.

[vish]

This fan base thing is b******s

 

Isn't our offish the most visited football site on the web?

[Tosh]

only cos we discourage most poeple from joining the unoffish ones....

[Guest 70400]

Anyone has data for both clubs' supporters in the UK?

 

Asia?

 

Europe?

 

N. America?

Edited January 17, 2006 by 70400

[Ostrich Man]

Manure have 3 million supporters in Asia, 2 million in North America, 1 million in Europe, and 17 in the North West of England.

 

In Hampshire, that number reaches 140,000.

Brilliant.

[Jonesy]

Brilliant.

 

1.5 in Belfast

[matty]

Brilliant.

 

 

Disappointed?

[Ostrich Man]

your mother been telling you im a man and a half again....

 

Disappointed?

yes....you tend to go for the less obvious approach.

 

I had expected better from you.

[matty]

No, I meant by your team getting spanked by Citeh.

[Ostrich Man]

banjo....attack!!

[Guest Red Mist]

It's not just the media that have christened ManUre as the 'biggest club in the world', they're fans champion this claim, at every opportuinity they can get. It's their default response to whenever people start comparing them to the TRUE biggest club in England.

 

"Liverpool have won more championships than any other English club"

Manc: "Yeah but United are the biggest club in the world!"

"Liverpool have won more European Cups than any other British club"

Manc: "Yeah but United are the biggest club in the world!"

"Only two clubs in the whole of Europe have won more European Cups than Liverpool"

Manc: "Yeah but United are the biggest club in the world!"

etc. etc.

[SkippyjonJones]

So what your saying Mike is that despite Man United's financial success they have still failed to match us for trophies - wow, that's astonishing, you'd think questions would be asked...

 

 

maybe but I'll stick to pointing, laughing and occasionally waving one hand with all digits extended at them.

[Ostrich Man]

maybe but I'll stick to waving one hand with all digits extended at them.

youre the nice friendly type NHE....

[R A Softlad]

Don't be fooled...

[John am Rhein]

Read somewhere that for the past few seasons, Liverpool FC have had the most following of away supporters over the course of a season. Even seem to recall Everton were second last season.

 

Much as I hate to speak up for the scum, Man U are a bit handicapped in that comparison because - unlike everyone else - they don't have an away game at the biggest ground: Old Tr*ff*rd.

[floyd]

Much as I hate to speak up for the scum,

Wash your mouth out with caustic soda

[Guest 70400]

Apparently MSN says Liverpool are the 8th most searched for topic on their search engine. Ahead of any other football club. United were 52nd or something.

 

http://in.news.yahoo.com/060102/139/61t7v.html

 

 

MSN Search... who uses that?

 

Scousers apparently.

 

 

So what your saying Mike is that despite Man United's financial success they have still failed to match us for trophies - wow, that's astonishing, you'd think questions would be asked...

 

Utd have underachieved in europe, but done okay domestically.

 

Arsenal is the same.

 

Liverpool on the other hand have done much better in Europe, than domestically. It was 15 years ago since you lot won the title.

Edited January 18, 2006 by 70400

[Guest Red Mist]

So what? It was nearly 6 years ago since you won the treble yet you lot stil don't shut up about it.