Liverpool and Chelsea "The Rivalry"

[Joshytoohotty]

At the moment it's really just a manifestation of the press.

 

It all actually started with that match at Stamford Bridge where they beat us to get into Europe, they then beat us the following season at Anfield with that flukey last minute goal and it's continued to develop from there.

 

Obviously the Gerrard to Chelsea stories and the Russian's investment have allowed it to get really heated and with the encounters last season it hit boiling point.

 

Now I know it will never be in the same league as the Blues**** and Man United but at the moment we're the best 2 sides in the league and I can see that developing. If we're constantly challenging each other for the the top honours then inevitably a rivalry will develop.

 

Cockneys are also not too highly thought of around Anfield and the arrogance and condescending attitude of Chelsea fans in paticular does make you want to puke. Any fans that wave 20 pound notes at football are especially vomit enducing.

 

Added to the fact that so many prize beauts such as Terry and Lampard are in that team it does make Chelsea a very hateful team, easily as hateful objectively as the Mancs although I'll always hate them far more than Chelsea for obvious reasons- although I'm not sure that fans of other sides would.

 

Then you have c***s such as Mourinho,Kenyon and Abramovich involved at a high level, constantly trying to undermine us. Mourinho with his comments about how we picked him over Raffa but he said no, and if this story about them trying to sign Simao and then loan him back out to Benfica then the level of hatred is only going to increase.

 

I don't paticularly have a problem with a rivalry developing, I've never liked Chelsea because as I said earlier, the majority of their fans are a bunch of vomit enducing chavs. As long as people don't start considering Chelsea on the same level as the Mancs and the Bitters then it makes for a healthy rivalry and a better atmosphere at the matches.

 

I'm not one to hate sides for no reason, I always had respect for Arsenal when they were at their best although admitedly how sickeningly good they were contrasted with our state at the time was very hard to stomach.

 

But this Chelsea side is especially hateful, their dodgy decisons that refs grant them, Andy Gray constantly creaming himself over them and their flukey deflected goals, and as I stated various members of the personal make the whole club very easy to hate.

 

They'll never be near the Mancs and the Bitters but could Chelsea become a distant 3rd? In many people's mind they probably already are a distant 3rd.

[Benzo-13]

To me they are the enemy. What they are doing to football is gonna cost us our game if it continues.

 

They have to be stopped and every big club in Europe has to stand up to them. Not letting them into the G14 is a start.

 

The fact I despise them is also another matter, and it is since that flukey goal three years ago.

[Maldini]

Their money and nouveau riche attitude makes them natural rivals for our club and everything it stands for.

 

I hate every association we have with them though, they make my skin crawl.

Edited January 16, 2006 by Maldini

[jfogarty]

At the moment it's really just a manifestation of the press.

 

It all actually started with that match at Stamford Bridge where they beat us to get into Europe, they then beat us the following season at Anfield with that flukey last minute goal and it's continued to develop from there.

 

Obviously the Gerrard to Chelsea stories and the Russian's investment have allowed it to get really heated and with the encounters last season it hit boiling point.

 

Now I know it will never be in the same league as the Blues**** and Man United but at the moment we're the best 2 sides in the league and I can see that developing. If we're constantly challenging each other for the the top honours then inevitably a rivalry will develop.

 

Cockneys are also not too highly thought of around Anfield and the arrogance and condescending attitude of Chelsea fans in paticular does make you want to puke. Any fans that wave 20 pound notes at football are especially vomit enducing.

 

Added to the fact that so many prize beauts such as Terry and Lampard are in that team it does make Chelsea a very hateful team, easily as hateful objectively as the Mancs although I'll always hate them far more than Chelsea for obvious reasons- although I'm not sure that fans of other sides would.

 

Then you have c***s such as Mourinho,Kenyon and Abramovich involved at a high level, constantly trying to undermine us. Mourinho with his comments about how we picked him over Raffa but he said no, and if this story about them trying to sign Simao and then loan him back out to Benfica then the level of hatred is only going to increase.

 

I don't paticularly have a problem with a rivalry developing, I've never liked Chelsea because as I said earlier, the majority of their fans are a bunch of vomit enducing chavs. As long as people don't start considering Chelsea on the same level as the Mancs and the Bitters then it makes for a healthy rivalry and a better atmosphere at the matches.

 

I'm not one to hate sides for no reason, I always had respect for Arsenal when they were at their best although admitedly how sickeningly good they were contrasted with our state at the time was very hard to stomach.

 

But this Chelsea side is especially hateful, their dodgy decisons that refs grant them, Andy Gray constantly creaming himself over them and their flukey deflected goals, and as I stated various members of the personal make the whole club very easy to hate.

 

They'll never be near the Mancs and the Bitters but could Chelsea become a distant 3rd? In many people's mind they probably already are a distant 3rd.

 

I know some that already hate them more than the mancs. It wont ever happen with me though,1993 to 2003 will never be forgotten and theres no way Chelski will ever surpass the s*** we had to put up with. Now its payback time

[Gunga Din]

i dont. amybe with some of outr younger fans, but i think our "enemy" ill always be the blues**** and the mancs

[Joshytoohotty]

I know some that already hate them more than the mancs. It wont ever happen with me though,1993 to 2003 will never be forgotten and theres no way Chelski will ever surpass the s*** we had to put up with. Now its payback time

 

One thing I will say though is I think Chelsea fans are worse than the Mancs.

 

Granted there's fights when we play United but that's a deep rivalry and go to Chelsea/Spurs, Villa/Brum, Southampton/Pompey etc and you'll see the same.

 

Mancs are at least north westerners and whilst they take the piss out of Liverpool I know a lot who have mates that are scousers and can at least relate to the Liverpool attitude etc and the North of England as a whole.

 

Chelsea fans on the other hand believe London is some sort of ivory tower and anything north of it is full of thick scum who are all on the dole. The amount of them I've met who seem to be under some sort of delusion that London is this fantastic city full of welcoming, freindly people whislt Liverpool is an incarnation of hell is ridiculous.

[The Hitman]

Some fair points made,but I'll always hate united and the blues**** more.

Also,John Terry is a top footballer and seems like a decent bloke,what has he done to make him so hated?

[Joshytoohotty]

i dont. amybe with some of outr younger fans, but i think our "enemy" ill always be the blues**** and the mancs

 

Yes, as I said several times in my post that will always be the case.

 

But if we're challenging them every year for trophies and if they continue to spend stupid amounts of cash and if Mourinho continues to act like the beaut he is at the moment then surely things will develop from there?

 

They'll never be considered the enemy like the mancs and the bitters but for a rivalry between us and them to develop I don't think it would take much more to be honest.

[stressederic]

Their money and nouveau riche attitude makes them natural rivals for our club and everything it stands for.

 

I hate every association we have with them though, they make my skin crawl.

 

Our two clubs are polar opposites from each other. They are the 'Anti-Liverpool', our dark doppleganger. The differences between us run right to the very core.

[Benitez]

the Rent Boys of the Russian pimp era are an enemy to football. But I don't see them as our enemy.

 

That'll always be the original Blues**** first and formost.

[Archangel]

Chelsea have gone right to the top of my list. I've never shared the hatred of United, they acheived a decade of success partly through financial muscle but also because of the single minded focus of their manager. The heart of their team and their success came from their youth unlike Chelsea who simply buy finished players off the shelf

 

Chelsea's financial clout has warped competition in the league and is anti football. Their greatest vulnerability will come in competitions where teams go head to head but over a 38 game season their ability to rotate and fill their squad with highest quality players will make it almost impossible for us to compete season after season

[jfogarty]

One thing I will say though is I think Chelsea fans are worse than the Mancs.

 

Granted there's fights when we play United but that's a deep rivalry and go to Chelsea/Spurs, Villa/Brum, Southampton/Pompey etc and you'll see the same.

 

Mancs are at least north westerners and whilst they take the piss out of Liverpool I know a lot who have mates that are scousers and can at least relate to the Liverpool attitude etc and the North of England as a whole.

 

Chelsea fans on the other hand believe London is some sort of ivory tower and anything north of it is full of thick scum who are all on the dole. The amount of them I've met who seem to be under some sort of delusion that London is this fantastic city full of welcoming, freindly people whislt Liverpool is an incarnation of hell is ridiculous.

 

Chelsea fans dont bother me. Fair enough they have a superiority complex but we'll see who is laughing when the russian f***s off.

[Benzo-13]

Chelsea have gone right to the top of my list. I've never shared the hatred of United, they acheived a decade of success partly through financial muscle but also because of the single minded focus of their manager. The heart of their team and their success came from their youth unlike Chelsea who simply buy finished players off the shelf

 

Chelsea's financial clout has warped competition in the league and is anti football. Their greatest vulnerability will come in competitions where teams go head to head but over a 38 game season their ability to rotate and fill their squad with highest quality players will make it almost impossible for us to compete season after season

 

Which hereby forces us to do the same and have people screaming for "takeovers" and the such to sponsor our way into the transfer market.

[madaboutlfc]

Rivalry develops through respect of an opponent.. Do you honestly respect a club who can outspend any other club and are not accountable for him..whatever Chelsea win will always be down to money for me and they arent really a club of the same stature as us anyway.. for me the enemy will always be the Mancs and to a lesser extent bitters..

[Archangel]

Which hereby forces us to do the same and have people screaming for "takeovers" and the such to sponsor our way into the transfer market.

 

and potentially lose a good chairman in the process I might add - you might argue that the presence of Chelsea represents a fundamental threat to the traditions of this club that United never could.

[L19red]

Liverpool v Chelsea will become the big game in english football soon. Both the mancs and arsenal are showing the cracks and we will be the team that is best equiped to challenge chel$ki. In terms of fan rivalry, it will not get close to everton or manu.

[G Richards]

Think about the recent Manure v Arsenal game. It was a complete non-event. Not so long ago that would have been a table top clash with big implications for the title. Not any more.

 

The future rivalry (and we've already seen it in Europe, though with our league form improving it's becoming domestic too) is Liverpool v Chelsea all the way. Mourinho talks about us more than anyone else too. That tells it's own tale as to who he sees as a long term threat.

[Rico]

TBH, I think Terry's OK. Even when speaking about Anfield and the Champions League, he came across as a decent sort. Maybe I cut him extra slack because he's not like most of the influx of Chelsea mercs; he is a product of Chelsea that predates the Russian, having played in their youth and reserve teams. He used to play for Senrab FC, IIRC, a Sunday league team from London. Senrab reversed is Barnes, so he can't be all bad.

[XXX]

Just one little question: If they "make you want to puke" - why do you visit their site? I'd keep away from people that make me feel sick. But that's certainly a personal choice.

[Joshytoohotty]

Just one little question: If they "make you want to puke" - why do you visit their site? I'd keep away from people that make me feel sick. But that's certainly a personal choice.

 

Where have I said I've been to their site?

 

For the record I have been there to ask for some tips on Chelsea way (where to drink etc.)

 

The post got deleted for no reason.

[Spike]

i dont. amybe with some of outr younger fans, but i think our "enemy" ill always be the blues**** and the mancs

Agree, Chelsea aren't our enemy. they're the enemy of football IMO, although with our progress and the other's decline I can see where two and two fits in.

 

As I said fella, we'll top them and I honestly got a sneaky feeling it will be this year as well

[Joshytoohotty]

Agree, Chelsea aren't our enemy. they're the enemy of football IMO, although with our progress and the other's decline I can see where two and two fits in.

 

As I said fella, we'll top them and I honestly got a sneaky feeling it will be this year as well

 

I'll settle for a win at the Bridge for now.

 

Oh what fun that would be, leaping round like a loon in the Shed End looking at the sickened faces of the Cockneys.

[Spike]

give a cheesy grin from me Josh

[Big G Superhero]

Their money and nouveau riche attitude makes them natural rivals for our club and everything it stands for.

 

I hate every association we have with them though, they make my skin crawl.

 

 

Exactly how I feel... don't think it's a younger fans thing, I don't hate them because they're our latest big rivals. Even the blues**** and the Mancs look virtuous compared to everything about that s***stick of a club.

Edited January 17, 2006 by Big G Superhero

[Guz]

One thing I will say though is I think Chelsea fans are worse than the Mancs.

 

Granted there's fights when we play United but that's a deep rivalry and go to Chelsea/Spurs, Villa/Brum, Southampton/Pompey etc and you'll see the same.

 

Mancs are at least north westerners and whilst they take the piss out of Liverpool I know a lot who have mates that are scousers and can at least relate to the Liverpool attitude etc and the North of England as a whole.

 

Chelsea fans on the other hand believe London is some sort of ivory tower and anything north of it is full of thick scum who are all on the dole. The amount of them I've met who seem to be under some sort of delusion that London is this fantastic city full of welcoming, freindly people whislt Liverpool is an incarnation of hell is ridiculous.

 

I live 10 minutes down the road from Stamford Bridge and think you're over over stating it just a wee bit

 

However, if Liverpool v Chelsea becomes the new Manchester United v Arsenal then yes a rivalry will develop but obviously not as intense as the blues**** or red mancs.