After 3 and a half years, I've concluded that

[Guest Red Mist]

...was not a fluke. He meant to lob Seaman yet everybody at the time said it was a fluke and that he intended it as a cross. I think we all know better now.

[slapnuts]

did he f*ck the snappy goofy bastid

[Whitey]

Saw a sports show very recently over here reviewing that World Cup...and Ronaldinho was on it saying he did try to lob him, but not exactly as it ended up.

 

He said Cafu had been telling him to watch Seaman, as he was always off his line. Then at the free kick, Cafu said again to look at him - so he tried it - but he did admit that the fact that it curled right over him and dropped into the top left corner was a fluke.

 

Camera angles were directly behind him looking at the goal and it did look very believable after hearing him talk....

[Earl Hafler]

We've been knocked out of 2 World Cup because our first choice keepers were over the hill and had lead in their boots. Shilton the dozy fecker in 1990 and Seaman in 2002.

[magneto]

We've been knocked out of 2 World Cup because our first choice keepers were over the hill and had lead in their boots. Shilton the dozy fecker in 1990 and Seaman in 2002.

 

Oh so it had nothing to do with Pearce and Waddle missing their penalties?

[Guest El Boss]

I was at that match and was behind the goofy one when he took it.

 

No way he meant it.

[sean]

LOL, for anyone to think he didn't mean that is deluded. The man's a genius, even if he meant to cross it, I think he might have made a better fist of it.

[Stevie H]

LOL, for anyone to think he didn't mean that is deluded. The man's a genius, even if he meant to cross it, I think he might have made a better fist of it.

 

damned right. he doesn't mis-hit crosses that badly.

[Vlad JNR]

I rmember at the time he definately admitted that he didn't mean it, although i have no evidence to back up this claim whatsoever

[Mono]

Get over it would ye

Can't wait to hear the excuses this time round hahaha

SGE will be to blame this year for playing Owen instead of Crouch or something

[Cobs]

damned right. he doesn't mis-hit crosses that badly.

and he doesn't smack every 40 yard free kick into the top corner of the goal either.

 

total fluke.

[sean]

and he doesn't smack every 40 yard free kick into the top corner of the goal either.

 

total fluke.

 

 

Get to feck Cobs, look at the run-up for Christ sake. Genus.

[Hassony]

and he doesn't smack every 40 yard free kick into the top corner of the goal either.

 

total fluke.

if it was lampard who scored it you wouldn't have called it a fluke

[Mike]

if it was lampard who scored it you wouldn't have called it a fluke

[Cobs]

Fluke

 

if it was lampard who scored it you wouldn't have called it a fluke

don't be daft - Lampard only scores with deflections

[sean]

'I meant to shoot'

[Des]

the killer for me was the goal before half-time - Scholes and Beckham bottling tackles leading to Rivaldo's equaliser. I think that drained the confidence of the players - never really looked like they believed they could do anything in the 2nd half.

 

and i'm well over it, cheers, doesn't mean i have to believe it was deliberate any more than i have to believe Maradona's opener in 1986 was just 'one of those things'.

 

Do you think he was trying to stick it in at the near post? Do you really think that Ronaldinho would've mis-hit a free kick like that so badly? Maybe his run up was meant to deceive Seaman as well.

Edited January 16, 2006 by Des

[sean]

Anyway, I think Des is right.

[John am Rhein]

We've been knocked out of 2 World Cup because our first choice keepers were over the hill and had lead in their boots. Shilton the dozy fecker in 1990 and Seaman in 2002.

 

Are you blaming Shilton for not saving penalties?

[sean]

Are you blaming Shilton for not saving penalties?

[Tones]

Its probably true that most shots arent placed or end up exactly where they were supposed to. Most footballers would just aim for the net and not even decide where its supposed to go. He meant to shoot. He meant it to his the net. He meant to lob Seaman and he did. How can you call that a fluke?

[Cobs]

Do you think he was trying to stick it in at the near post? Do you really think that Ronaldinho would've mis-hit a free kick like that so badly? Maybe his run up was meant to deceive Seaman as well.

The player himself is the one who is saying it didn't go where he intended it to - i can only assume if his intention was to score he would have been putting it to one side or the other of the keeper as straight into the middle of the goal would have surely been to easy to save? If that goal was evidence of his undoubted genius surely the man would know which side of the goal he was shooting at?

 

so you tell me where you think he intended it to go - it's clearly beyond sean to answer my question.

 

 

FWIW i think it was a cross, i thought it at the time and having downloaded it this morning and watched it another 10 or so times i still think it was a cross.

 

 

sorry.

[sean]

Cobs, I've said several times, he wanted to put it over the keepers head and in the net. That's as much as I can gauge. This is like a Monty Ptython sketch, although I'm not sure you're being fully serious.

 

Ps. if this is serious and there are people that believe it to be a fluke, can you put forward some argument apart from Cobs' aforementioned line as I'm all for being convinced.

[Cobs]

Cobs, I've said several times, he wanted to put it over the keepers head and in the net. That's as much as I can gauge. This is like a Monty Ptython sketch, although I'm not sure you're being fully serious.

 

Ps. if this is serious and there are people that believe it to be a fluke, can you put forward some argument apart from Cobs' aforementioned line as I'm all for being convinced.

How do you like them apples ?

[sean]

That's the same effing quote as the last one you posted. I'm not debating wheteher he hit the right part of the goal. You still think it was a cross Cobs, so that quote you posted schits on your argument that he never hit it goalward.

Edited January 16, 2006 by sean