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I dont remember Wembley being hot that day. ;)

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I dont remember Wembley being hot that day. ;)

 

I've just rang Michael Fish. You're right - it was snowing.

 

Nonehteless, he was left out of the lineup wasn't he? Although I think he may have been (the only) sub? Maybe Bob thought that he couldn't play at Wembley and Rome in the space of four days?

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Can just about remember him playing. He was only booked once I believe, and scored one hat-trick against Hull City in the League Cup, but hardly anyone saw it as it was played during the week in the afternoon because of the power cuts.

 

He was a very neat and tidy player, he did everything simple.

 

I've just rang Michael Fish. You're right - it was snowing.

 

Nonehteless, he was left out of the lineup wasn't he? Although I think he may have been (the only) sub? Maybe Bob thought that he couldn't play at Wembley and Rome in the space of four days?

 

I thought Chris Lawler was the sub that day :unsure:

 

edit....wrong final :oops:

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one of my dads favourite - and shanklys favourite. shanks' gave him the best praise its possible to give a player

 

"He typifies everything that is good in football, and he has never changed. You could stake your life on Ian."

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He was actually booked for the only time in his career in his last game at Anfield I believe

 

That was Cally, going out on a high note ;)

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:D Jeff will tell you that he was one of the best but very understated in a lot of ways probably the reason he only got two caps for england something like 12 years apart or something stupid like that
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Cally was one of my favourite all time players, and a real scouser of the old school - to look at him he had the archetypal scouse face and walk. He played mainly as a winger of sorts, but one that would drift inside and wasn't affraid of a shot at goal, having a hell of a right foot when he took it upon himself to let loose. He was the last ever player to score past Gordon Banks and with just such a powerful strike before Banks lost his eye in a car accident returning to Stoke from Anfield where we had beaten them. His opposing number on the flanks for half of his career was Peter Thompson, both could beat men all afternoon if required, both being very good crossers of the ball - a modern day version of Callaghan is in my mind what Benitez is currently after with Simao and Alves - shortish players with good passing and dribbling skills, not lightening fast, but with that burst of acceleration over the first five yards that leaves defenders behind you and wrong footed. He was the first player I can reacll who in today's parlance, had agreat 'engine'.

 

Not having been booked his whole career, he picked up 3 bookings* in his last season - all of which were innocuous - he also - having been in the victorious England World Cup squad of '66, remarkably recieved his next cap 11-12 years later in 1977-78. He was about 34 at the time.

 

Never one to hog the limelight and often the peacemaker in the dressing room where for years he was nicknamed 'the gent' by Bob Paisley, he eventually finished his career (if I remember right) playing for Toshack at Swansea where a few other ex reds joined him.

 

He and his old good friend Chris Lawler still attend almost all home games, keeping themselves to themselves.

 

*correction - it was in fact only once.

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... who can tell me about him?

 

I know he was at Liverpool with Ian St.John ('61, '62?) right up to 1978 or so. I remember him in the Cup Finals of 1971 and 1974 and the European Cup Final of 77. I also vaguely recall that he was dropped for the 77 FA Cup Final by Bob (because of the Heat at Wembley?), and I've seen him in highlights of various campaigns down the years. Also, I think (could be wrong) that he was only booked once in his career.

 

But apart from that? Not much - He was always one of the Quiet Men.

 

Can anyone who may have seen him play tell me a little more? Was he good?, great? better?

He started off as an orthodox outside right in the 60's but ended up playing centre-mid in the 70's. He did miss the 77 Cup final but that meant he was fresh for Rome where he had a pretty much flawless game. Souness was brought in to replace him in 77-78 season.

 

In terms of ability he wasn't quite up there with the likes of Dalglish but you'd be hard pressed to find a better servant of the club - its unlikely that his appearances tally for the club will ever be surpassed.

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Cally was one of my favourite all time players, and a real scouser of the old school - to look at him he had the archetypal scouse face and walk. He played mainly as a winger of sorts, but one that would drift inside and wasn't affraid of a shot at goal, having a hell of a right foot when he took it upon himself to let loose. He was the last ever player to score past Gordon Banks and with just such a powerful strike before Banks lost his eye in a car accident returning to Stoke from Anfield where we had beaten them. His opposing number on the flanks for half of his career was Peter Thompson, both could beat men all afternoon if required, both being very good crossers of the ball - a modern day version of Callaghan is in my mind what Benitez is currently after with Simao and Alves - shortish players with good passing and dribbling skills, not lightening fast, but with that burst of acceleration over the first five yards that leaves defenders behind you and wrong footed. He was the first player I can reacll who in today's parlance, had agreat 'engine'.

 

Not having been booked his whole career, he picked up 3 bookings* in his last season - all of which were innocuous - he also - having been in the victorious England World Cup squad of '66, remarkably recieved his next cap 11-12 years later in 1977-78. He was about 34 at the time.

 

Never one to hog the limelight and often the peacemaker in the dressing room where for years he was nicknamed 'the gent' by Bob Paisley, he eventually finished his career (if I remember right) playing for Toshack at Swansea where a few other ex reds joined him.

 

He and his old good friend Chris Lawler still attend almost all home games, keeping themselves to themselves.

 

*correction - it was in fact only once.

 

Cheers everyone - I do now remember him playing for Swansea for a year or so, yeah. I'm only asking about him because he was one of only two players (if I'm right) with Tommy Smith that won the League with Shanks and then the European Cup with Bob. We all know some of the stories about Tommy but not so much about Cally. Was he Player of the Year as well? In '74?

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Cheers everyone - I do now remember him playing for Swansea for a year or so, yeah. I'm only asking about him because he was one of only two players (if I'm right) with Tommy Smith that won the League with Shanks and then the European Cup with Bob. We all know some of the stories about Tommy but not so much about Cally. Was he Player of the Year as well? In '74?

I think he did get player of the year, but can't remember which year - didn't Emlyn win the league with Shanks too?

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I'm only asking about him because he was one of only two players (if I'm right) with Tommy Smith that won the League with Shanks and then the European Cup with Bob.

I don't think that's right - Clemence, Hughes, Heighway and Keegan also did that.

 

I think Smith and Callaghan were the only ones to win the FA Cup in 65 and the European Cup in 77.

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He was actually booked for the only time in his career in his last game at Anfield I believe

No, that was in the League Cup final replay against Forest. It was never a booking either(in those days you could tackle people and only the real leg breakers got a booking). It put the cherry on the cake after that g******* Pat Partridge gave them a penalty outside the box that they won the game with.

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I think Smith and Callaghan were the only ones to win the FA Cup in 65 and the European Cup in 77.

I'm sure that's right.

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No, that was in the League Cup final replay against Forest. It was never a booking either(in those days you could tackle people and only the real leg breakers got a booking). It put the cherry on the cake after that g******* Pat Partridge gave them a penalty outside the box that they won the game with.

 

you're right of course which would have made it his last ever game for the club

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No, that was in the League Cup final replay against Forest. It was never a booking either(in those days you could tackle people and only the real leg breakers got a booking). It put the cherry on the cake after that g******* Pat Partridge gave them a penalty outside the box that they won the game with.

 

Can't remember that happening...the booking. I remember Terry Mac scoring in the Stretford End, but it was disallowed for handball, when the ball hit his chest. :angry:

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Being really pedantic now but we may as well get it absolutely right. Cally was there from the second division days some 5 years or so before Smithy. So while Cally was a key man in the '64 title winning side, Smithy never made his debut till the following season. Smithy was ever present in the '66 title winners and arguably the best defender in Europe in mid-sixties.

 

Should add that Cally was always a gem, always reliable, never ever lost possession ( the contrast with the likes of Danny Murphy in that regard is embarrassing) and must be in the top 5 LFC servants of all time.

 

 

Thanks for pointing this out, mate.

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Wmbley 77 was really really hot

 

i got my first case of sunburn that day when we were sat on the grass outside outturnstyle

 

The 77 cup final was indeed a blazing day. Obviously, we lost and on the way back from the game we (me and my Dad) we're allocated on a coach with 50 of the 52 seats full of Man Utd fans ( it was an Eavesway coach back to Garswood/ Ashton)

 

As you'd expect they were full of it. We were waiting to get on the coach and I was standing there (aged 11) and one of the Man Utd fans decided to take the piss out of my dad ( who has white hair it looked a bit like Pope J-P2) "Look who it is, it's the f***in' scouse Pope. Well the Pope could'nt help you today could he? Anyway, I didn't think you f*****s were allowed to have kids"

 

Well, my dad stuck the nut in as quick as a flash. Leaving the bloke on the ground with a snarly nose. "f***in' ell mate, I was only jokin'". Yeah, "Go on then. Tell me another one"

 

It was a quiet coach home.

 

I'd just like to add violence is not the answer --Oh no !

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I think I'm right in saying that his final England cap was also the game that set an England record as having the most players in an international side taken from a single club. There were I think about 8 Liverpool players in the starting line-up.

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Have had the pleasure of meeting him a couple of years ago. One of the nicest persons I've met in my life. A true gent.

 

And after watching, reading and listening to people who've seen him played, he was indeed a superb player for this great club.

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... who can tell me about him?

 

I know he was at Liverpool with Ian St.John ('61, '62?) right up to 1978 or so. I remember him in the Cup Finals of 1971 and 1974 and the European Cup Final of 77. I also vaguely recall that he was dropped for the 77 FA Cup Final by Bob (because of the Heat at Wembley?), and I've seen him in highlights of various campaigns down the years. Also, I think (could be wrong) that he was only booked once in his career.

 

But apart from that? Not much - He was always one of the Quiet Men.

 

Can anyone who may have seen him play tell me a little more? Was he good?, great? better?

 

I saw him play from around 1965 onwards. A very orthodox outside right at first. No great dribbling skill, unlike the great Peter Thompson on the other wing, but he was very fast over the first five yards and would knock the ball past the full-back and invariably beat him for speed and get a cross in. He had a great knack of being able to be running at high speed towards the line and still get a cross over with great accuracy when he looked like his momentum would carry him flying into the Kop.

 

Strangely enough I went to one of our semi-finals at Hillsborough - can't remember which one - after he retired, went to the gents and who should be standing at the next urinal to me but Cally. He looked exactly like he did in his playing days but was surprisingly short - and I'm only 5ft 10ins and a bit, but I towered over him

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