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Makes you wonder if these idiots deserve a seat at Anfield. ****** disgrace!

 

 

Gerrard unhappy at Owen reception

 

 

Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard has criticised some Reds fans for the reception they gave former striker Michael Owen on his return to Anfield.

Newcastle's Owen was mildly booed when his name was announced before a game the home side convincingly won 2-0.

 

"I am disappointed," said Gerrard. "He should be a legend here for all the goals he has scored for us in the past.

 

"He got a mixed reception. I do not think they were booing him much but he deserves a standing ovation."

 

Instead, certain pockets of the Merseyside club's support chanted 'Where were you in Istanbul?' and 'You should have joined a big club', as Owen rarely got a touch, let alone a chance.

 

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I thought the boo-ing was well over the top. I didn't expect a rapturous reception, after all, he never got one while playing for us so why should he now? But compare the reaction to Owen yesterday and that of players like Redknapp who gave far less to the cause and got much better receptions. I think the real fans were those who DID give him a good reception as he lined up for the second half.

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Terrible reception for Owen.

 

I wasn't expecting his name to be sung from the rafters, but not booing.

 

No class what-so-ever from the Championship Mananger fans.

Guest BigChief
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Well, duh. Its obvious Gerrard is going to stand by Owen, and so he should. Those two and Carra go back a long way and they are almost like family. You always stick by family and I respect Gerrard for that.

 

However, Owen was an Employee at the club I throw money at. He was of legend status (see by the number of gold stars on his Employee Badge) however he was an Employee and not the life and blood of the club. In short, he's no family member of mine. He founda job elsewhere, dilly-dallied, then left us (slightly short).

 

If I want to 'mildly' (not over the top) boo an ex-Employee for that then that's my financially backed right I would say. I don't hate him, but I feel he should know how we feel. I don't see why people have to keep mounting their high horses about this!

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  BigChief said:
Well, duh. Its obvious Gerrard is going to stand by Owen, and so he should. Those two and Carra go back a long way and they are almost like family. You always stick by family and I respect Gerrard for that.

 

However, Owen was an Employee at the club I throw money at. He was of legend status (see by the number of gold stars on his Employee Badge) however he was an Employee and not the life and blood of the club. In short, he's no family member of mine. He founda job elsewhere, dilly-dallied, then left us (slightly short).

 

If I want to 'mildly' (not over the top) boo an ex-Employee for that then that's my financially backed right I would say. I don't hate him, but I feel he should know how we feel. I don't see why people have to keep mounting their high horses about this!

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High horse my a*** - not the 'Liverpool Way' I'm afraid.

 

I was f***ing embarrassed to be a Liverpool supporter yesterday - it was pathetic to be honest. Small-time d*ckheads that made the decent match-goers look like c***s.

 

Over the whole thing, but the same idiots booing Owen was like the t***s that boo'ed Duff because he didn't sign for us. :wacko:

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  Lee W said:
High horse my a*** - not the 'Liverpool Way' I'm afraid.

 

I was f***ing embarrassed to be a Liverpool supporter yesterday - it was pathetic to be honest. Small-time d*ckheads that made the decent match-goers look like c***s.

 

Over the whole thing, but the same idiots booing Owen was like the t***s that boo'ed Duff because he didn't sign for us.  :wacko:

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I was hardly embarrassed Lee. I wish there hadn't been booing but to be honest I was utterly proud to be a Liverpool fan after the first half - the Owen kerfuffle was almost irrelevant to the quality the side showed.

 

I surprised anyone was surprised. He left in mixed circumstances and didn't show (according to the Echo - the first source for the majority of match-going supporters) the requisite desire to return to the club this summer. Add on to that the fact he was never as appreciated as he should have been then why the shock?

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  Lee W said:
High horse my a*** - not the 'Liverpool Way' I'm afraid.

 

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You clearly don't know what you are talking about, my friend. Is it only you who dictates what the "Liverpool Way" should be? Well I must go back further that you because I remember Keegan's reception when he came back to Anfield with firstly Hamburg and then, especially, with Southampton and the "Liverpool Way" was, is and I hope forever shall be, to let those who were of faint heart and walked out on us know how we feel. Now I didn't boo Owen and I thought those that did were wrong but I'll defend their right to do so.

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  Paul B said:
You clearly don't know what you are talking about, my friend.  Is it only you who dictates what the "Liverpool Way" should be?  Well I must go back further that you because I remember Keegan's reception when he came back to Anfield with firstly Hamburg and then, especially, with Southampton and the "Liverpool Way" was, is and I hope forever shall be, to let those who were of faint heart and walked out on us know how we feel.  Now I didn't boo Owen and I thought those that did were wrong but I'll defend their right to do so.

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No, it isn't but I bet there's a fair few people that would agree and no, I don't need a history lesson, but ta very much for the thought anyway.

 

I would apply my opinion to the same w*****s that boo'ed Keegan. It's the same small-time, no-mark gobschites every time. We were playing Newcastle off the park yet the d****ead fraternity were more interested in boo'ing an ex-Red. As I said, personally I was f***ing embarrassed.

 

What a cracking set of fans that clap the oppositions goalkeeper, but boo a club legend. Mindless t***s, of the highest order.

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I think "club legend" is giving him a little too much credit, Carra is a club legend, Owen had the chance to become one but decided that Madrid was a better option.

 

Anyway, I didn't boo him but I did sing "where we you in Istanbul" and "you should have signed for a big club". No mallice in the chants, just a laugh and I'm sure Owen knows this city well enough to realise it's a joke.

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  Lee W said:

I would apply my opinion to the same w*****s that boo'ed Keegan. It's the same small-time, no-mark gobschites every time. We were playing Newcastle off the park yet the d****ead fraternity were more interested in boo'ing an ex-Red. As I said, personally I was f***ing embarrassed.

 

What a cracking set of fans that clap the oppositions goalkeeper, but boo a club legend. Mindless t***s, of the highest order.

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As I've written, it's not something I'd have done but I can understand why. It's happened throughout our history with (in my time) Larry Lloyd, Keegan, even Dalglish got it off some (I'll admit, I WAS embarrassed then). And you are wrong; they weren't boo-ing him while we were playing them off the park. The boo-ing lasted for a few minutes of the first half only. Once we saw how laughable they were, it had already stopped. But what about commenting on the positives and those who sang his name at the start of the second half? And Given got a good reception as he's well liked and produced another good performance yesterday and so thoroughly deserved it.

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Of course Owen is a club legend. I don't see how that can possibly be disputed.

 

He left and we've gone on to bigger and better things without him.

 

When Keegan left I was mortified but the club moved on. If I'd known how good his replacement was going to be I wouldn't have batted an eyelid.

 

The biggest loser in all of this has been Owen himself. He missed out on a chance to win one of the biggest prizes of all. Ironic considering it must've been one of his main motivations for going.

 

I think if he'd stayed last season might've been very different. That night in May might not have happened.

 

Michael left us and he missed out on one of the great triumphs in the club's history. The chants reminding him of that are probably fair enough cos they're humorous. Where's the humour in booing though? It's a s*** thing to do to one of your own, and the way I see it little Michael is 'family'. You can't give that much to the club and not be, no matter the manner of your leaving.

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  £440 said:
Of course Owen is a club legend.  I don't see how that can possibly be disputed.

 

He left and we've gone on to bigger and better things without him.

 

When Keegan left I was mortified but the club moved on.  If I'd known how good his replacement was going to be I wouldn't have batted an eyelid.

 

The biggest loser in all of this has been Owen himself.  He missed out on a chance to win one of the biggest prizes of all.  Ironic considering it must've been one of his main motivations for going.

 

I think if he'd stayed last season might've been very different.  That night in May might not have happened.

 

Michael left us and he missed out on one of the great triumphs in the club's history.  The chants reminding him of that are probably fair enough cos they're humorous.  Where's the humour in booing though?  It's a s*** thing to do to one of your own, and the way I see it little Michael is 'family'.  You can't give that much to the club and not be, no matter the manner of your leaving.

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Spot on.

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The only idiots are the people who come in here and criticise OUR OWN.

 

Owen? Why the hell do we owe him anything? Club legend? yes. 158 goals? yes. Won the FA Cup? yes again. However he owes us a million times more. We made him the man he is today. If it wasn't for us for all we know he could be working in a dead end job. Talented? Without doubt but if you change one thing in history then the rest of his life might have played out different. Furthermore Owen was said to be worth around £20m when he left us. In 7 years we paid him and paid him well. We more than paid for those 158 goals and the FA Cup. We made him the highest paid player in our then 109 year history. We gave him love and admiration. He then snubbed us not once but twice. We owe him nothing.

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  Anfield Fox said:
The only idiots are the people who come in here and criticise OUR OWN.

 

Owen? Why the hell do we owe him anything? Club legend? yes. 158 goals? yes. Won the FA Cup? yes again. However he owes us a million times more. We made him the man he is today. If it wasn't for us for all we know he could be working in a dead end job. Talented? Without doubt but if you change one thing in history then the rest of his life might have played out different. Furthermore Owen was said to be worth around £20m when he left us. In 7 years we paid him and paid him well. We more than paid for those 158 goals and the FA Cup. We made him the highest paid player in our then 109 year history. We gave him love and admiration. He then snubbed us not once but twice. We owe him nothing.

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Get a grip.

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  £440 said:
Of course Owen is a club legend.  I don't see how that can possibly be disputed.

 

He left and we've gone on to bigger and better things without him.

 

When Keegan left I was mortified but the club moved on.  If I'd known how good his replacement was going to be I wouldn't have batted an eyelid.

 

The biggest loser in all of this has been Owen himself.  He missed out on a chance to win one of the biggest prizes of all.  Ironic considering it must've been one of his main motivations for going.

 

I think if he'd stayed last season might've been very different.  That night in May might not have happened.

 

Michael left us and he missed out on one of the great triumphs in the club's history.  The chants reminding him of that are probably fair enough cos they're humorous.  Where's the humour in booing though?  It's a s*** thing to do to one of your own, and the way I see it little Michael is 'family'.  You can't give that much to the club and not be, no matter the manner of your leaving.

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:applause: totally agree

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  Anfield Fox said:
The only idiots are the people who come in here and criticise OUR OWN.

 

Owen? Why the hell do we owe him anything? Club legend? yes. 158 goals? yes. Won the FA Cup? yes again. However he owes us a million times more. We made him the man he is today. If it wasn't for us for all we know he could be working in a dead end job. Talented? Without doubt but if you change one thing in history then the rest of his life might have played out different. Furthermore Owen was said to be worth around £20m when he left us. In 7 years we paid him and paid him well. We more than paid for those 158 goals and the FA Cup. We made him the highest paid player in our then 109 year history. We gave him love and admiration. He then snubbed us not once but twice. We owe him nothing.

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"We made him the man he is today"?!

 

I half know what you're getting at but I can't agree. Michael's talent would've made him a success with or without Liverpool Football Club.

 

Maybe we don't 'owe' him anything if you think the financial rewards cover any debt we might have to him, but I'd like to think that nearly a decade of goals and the odd trophy might mean that we remember him with fondness and look on him as one of our own.

 

Half the problem with Michael is that he's not the most loveable of characters. He's not overburdened with charisma, is he? I'm sure he's a lovely lad but there's always been a tad too much of the automaton about him.

 

That's really beside the point though.

 

The reason we loved him as far as we did was he scored goals. Just to pick two at random, the two he scored away to Roma were an utter delight. One could easily construct an argument that they were instrumental in helping this club start to believe in itself as possible European power again.

 

Now he's gone it falls to others to fulfil his role, and they will, but that in no way lessens what Michael did for us. So maybe we do owe him something after all; gratitude. No more, no less. He made his choice to leave as other wearers of the red shirt will in the future, but the trophies and goals will always be there.

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  Anfield Fox said:
The only idiots are the people who come in here and criticise OUR OWN.

 

Owen? Why the hell do we owe him anything? Club legend? yes. 158 goals? yes. Won the FA Cup? yes again. However he owes us a million times more. We made him the man he is today. If it wasn't for us for all we know he could be working in a dead end job. Talented? Without doubt but if you change one thing in history then the rest of his life might have played out different. Furthermore Owen was said to be worth around £20m when he left us. In 7 years we paid him and paid him well. We more than paid for those 158 goals and the FA Cup. We made him the highest paid player in our then 109 year history. We gave him love and admiration. He then snubbed us not once but twice. We owe him nothing.

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Complete twaddle.

 

There are a number of d*ckheads who follow Liverpool that I have no wish to be associated with. Every club has it's share of idiots, some of ours are embarrassing as well, e.g. the idiot who wears the Munich 58 shirt, are you going to stick up for him as well then? :wacko:

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  Anfield Fox said:
If it wasn't for us for all we know he could be working in a dead end job.

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Couldn't let this pass.

 

Yes, I remember him being slow, cumbersome and talentless and it was only us, the fans who helped him achieve the dizzy heights, wasn't it?

 

FFS!

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  £440 said:
"We made him the man he is today"?!

 

I half know what you're getting at but I can't agree.  Michael's talent would've made him a success with or without Liverpool Football Club.

 

Maybe we don't 'owe' him anything if you think the financial rewards cover any debt we might have to him, but I'd like to think that nearly a decade of goals and the odd trophy might mean that we remember him with fondness and look on him as one of our own.

 

Half the problem with Michael is that he's not the most loveable of characters.  He's not overburdened with charisma, is he?  I'm sure he's a lovely lad but there's always been a tad too much of the automaton about him.

 

That's really beside the point though.

 

The reason we loved him as far as we did was he scored goals.  Just to pick two at random, the two he scored away to Roma were an utter delight.  One could easily construct an argument that they were instrumental in helping this club start to believe in itself as possible European power again.

 

Now he's gone it falls to others to fulfil his role, and they will, but that in no way lessens what Michael did for us.  So maybe we do owe him something after all; gratitude.  No more, no less.  He made his choice to leave as other wearers of the red shirt will in the future, but the trophies and goals will always be there.

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I completely agree with you're entire post and as I said I consider him a legend and always will. I'm just stating that at the same time I don't think any of us owe him anything and although the booing was harsh it was justifiable. This was his first visit and over time wounds will heal and we'll remember him as he should be remembered but yesterday was a chance for us to let him know how we felt about his antics. f***ing us around on his contract and then snubbing us to go to Newcastle. Next time he visits I hope that will be put behind us but as I say yesterday was a chance for us to vent that frustration and I completely agree with anyone at the game who booed Michael.

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  le2red said:
Complete twaddle.

 

There are a number of d*ckheads who follow Liverpool that I have no wish to be associated with. Every club has it's share of idiots, some of ours are embarrassing as well, e.g. the idiot who wears the Munich 58 shirt, are you going to stick up for him as well then? :wacko:

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There is a difference in good natured chanting and "booing" considering his recent actions and someone who mocks the death of people. Besides i have no idea what you mean about the "Munich 58 shirt". Can't say i've ever seen him at Anfield.

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  Paul B said:
Couldn't let this pass. 

 

Yes, I remember him being slow, cumbersome and talentless and it was only us, the fans who helped him achieve the dizzy heights, wasn't it? 

 

FFS!

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Like i said, change one thing in history and everything else around you changes. There is no denying of his talent and "cream always rises to the top" but who knows what would have happened at another club. None of us will ever know but how many of those "wonder kids" fell off the rafter and ended up washed up? A favourite topic on here is Cherno Samba.

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All this fuss over a minority booing for a very short amount of time?

 

It's funny when things like this happen, the hysterics from some people are well worth it.

 

PS: No I didn't boo, but then I didn't pretend like I was embarrased either.

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  Anfield Fox said:
The only idiots are the people who come in here and criticise OUR OWN.

 

Owen? Why the hell do we owe him anything? Club legend? yes. 158 goals? yes. Won the FA Cup? yes again. However he owes us a million times more. We made him the man he is today. If it wasn't for us for all we know he could be working in a dead end job. Talented? Without doubt but if you change one thing in history then the rest of his life might have played out different. Furthermore Owen was said to be worth around £20m when he left us. In 7 years we paid him and paid him well. We more than paid for those 158 goals and the FA Cup. We made him the highest paid player in our then 109 year history. We gave him love and admiration. He then snubbed us not once but twice. We owe him nothing.

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:lol:

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  Anfield Fox said:
Like i said, change one thing in history and everything else around you changes. There is no denying of his talent and "cream always rises to the top" but who knows what would have happened at another club. None of us will ever know but how many of those "wonder kids" fell off the rafter and ended up washed up? A favourite topic on here is Cherno Samba.

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using your logic do you care to venture an opinion on what would have happened had we not had someone to score those two goals against roma or the two in the cup final? or any of the other 158 goals

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