Champions League draw 24/25

[Gethin]

5pm UK time on Thursday

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/champions-league-draw-details-2024-25-league-phase

We'll draw 2 teams from each of the 4 pots, playing one from each pot at home and one away. We can't be drawn against teams from England and can only draw a max of 2 from any other country

You can find the teams in each pot here https://kassiesa.net/uefa/seedcl2024.html, pots 1 & 2 are definite 3 & 4 won't be confirmed until the qualifiers are finished on Tuesday and Wednesday.

Looks like the draw itself will be as confusing as f***. Also looks like there are no draws for the KO rounds as everything is based off your finishing position in the group stages

 

 

[Case]

Thank f*** Macca didn’t explain these rules.

I think i read somewhere that the draw is being done by a computer / AI rather than yer humans because of the complexities.

[dyl]

7 minutes ago, Case said:

Thank f*** Macca didn’t explain these rules.

I think i read somewhere that the draw is being done by a computer / AI rather than yer humans because of the complexities.

What could possibly go wrong.....

[Gethin]

I'm just chucking this in here to refer back to

Quote

Article 18 Equality of points – league phase

18.01

If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the league phase matches, the following criteria are applied, in this order, to determine their rankings:

Superior goal difference in the league phase

Higher number of goals scored in the league phase

Higher number of away goals scored in the league phase

Higher number of wins in the league phase

Higher number of away wins in the league phase

Higher number of points obtained collectively by league phase opponents

Superior collective goal difference of league phase opponents

Higher number of goals scored collectively by league phase opponents

Lower disciplinary points total based only on yellow and red cards received by players and team officials in all league phase matches (red card = 3 points, yellow card = 1 point, expulsion for two yellow cards in one match = 3 points)

Higher club coefficient (see Annex D)

https://documents.uefa.com/r/Regulations-of-the-UEFA-Champions-League-2024/25/Article-18-Equality-of-points-league-phase-Online

Just now, dyl said:

What could possibly go wrong.....

Well they b******sed it up drawing it manually the other year didn't they? Put the wrong teams in the pots and ended up having to redraw it

[Candystore]

This is the new CL theme, sounds a bit  

[oojason]

The new format for the 3 UEFA competitions for the 2024/25 season and beyond...

(a 2 minute explainer video)

^ and www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/competition-format

& www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0268-12157d69ce2d-9f011c70f6fa-1000--new-format-for-champions-league-post-2024-everything-you-ne/

 

^ from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024–25_UEFA_Champions_League#Schedule

 

Champions League: www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague

Europa League: www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague

Conference League: www.uefa.com/uefaconferenceleague

 

 

'Can UEFA's Crazy New Format Save The Champions League?' - by HITC Sevens....

^ with a little on the European Super League, FIFA's Club World Cup, an ever-increasing fixtures calendar, clubs & organisers wanting guaranteed/increased revenues streams, keeping TV companies and deals happy, the pros and cons of this new format (inc seemingly no reward/inclination/carrot for teams finishing anywhere between 9th-24th for in the PlayOff Round), how it all could be done, and the general greed of modern football...

 

Edited August 26, 2024 by oojason

[McBain]

I like the Swiss system in principal. I hope it works in practice as there could be virtually no dead rubbers at any point 

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

On 26/08/2024 at 15:02, Case said:

Thank f*** Macca didn’t explain these rules.

I think i read somewhere that the draw is being done by a computer / AI rather than yer humans because of the complexities.

 

On 26/08/2024 at 15:10, dyl said:

What could possibly go wrong.....

you c****!

defo gonna heavily favour Madrid & City b/c now it's a computer they'll just have it programmed in

UEFA bells

[KBR]

Juve - Fred Church to score a hatrick

Feyenoord - Slot to have a punch up against their entire coaching staff

Girona - Just to give the newcomers a glory tie.

 

[Gethin]

Two from each pot, can't draw other English teams, maximum two opponents from each country.

Who do you want?

Screenshot taken from https://kassiesa.net/uefa/seedcl2024.html

[Swipe]

Barca 

Leipzig

Brugge

Benfica

Young Boys

Celtic

Monaco

Stuttgart

[Gethin]

I'll take:

Inter, RB Leipzig

Brugge, Shaktar

Young Boys (for the w***dorf jokes), PSV

Bologna, Stade Brestois (for the t** jokes)

[Swipe]

Despite the new format, the biggest takeout here is you need better jokes.

[Gethin]

1 minute ago, Swipe said:

Despite the new format, the biggest takeout here is you need better jokes.

Didn't need a new CL format to realise that

[Case]

 

The obligatory draw simulator

16 minutes ago, Gethin said:

Two from each pot, can't draw other English teams, maximum two opponents from each country.

Who do you want?

Screenshot taken from https://kassiesa.net/uefa/seedcl2024.html

I prefer 

Dortmund, Barca, Bruges, Benfica, Celtic, Young Boys, Bologna, Sturm Graz

[surf]

i'd like: leverkusen, atalanta, feyenoord and a few others

 

[Eiler99]

Wait, so all 36 teams are in the same league table but don't play against the same teams? And you only play 8 games with no home and away return legs?

Is that how it works?

Edited August 29, 2024 by Eiler99

[Cobs]

What time does this s***show start?

Soz - see it’s on the 1st post

[Gethin]

3 minutes ago, Eiler99 said:

Wait, so all 36 teams are in the same league table but don't play against the same teams? And you only play 8 games with no home and away return legs?

Is that how it works?

Yup.

You play 2 teams from each pot, one home one away and it's one league table for everyone.

Top 8 go straight into the round of 16

Teams 9-24 go into a 2 leg KO round for the remaining 8 places in the round of 16

[Cobs]

1 minute ago, Gethin said:

Yup.

You play 2 teams from each pot, one home one away and it's one league table for everyone.

Top 8 go straight into the round of 16

Teams 9-24 go into a 2 leg KO round for the remaining 8 places in the round of 16

Seriously - what c*** came up with this format?

[Gethin]

Just now, Cobs said:

Seriously - what c*** came up with this format?

Yer ma?

[kop205]

1 hour ago, Gethin said:

Two from each pot, can't draw other English teams, maximum two opponents from each country.

Who do you want?

Screenshot taken from https://kassiesa.net/uefa/seedcl2024.html

Is it one home and one away from each pot?

Barca

Bruges

Sporting

Sparta

Would be fun aways

[Gethin]

6 minutes ago, kop205 said:

Is it one home and one away from each pot?

Yes. 

[Eiler99]

26 minutes ago, Cobs said:

Seriously - what c*** came up with this format?

Unnecessarily complicated. I assume they're trying to kill it off so they can do a UEFA Super League instead.

[Swipe]

How is it drawn? Are they still calling them groups? 
 

Is it just “okay group 1…”

 

Then two from each pot (restrictions notwithstanding) and there’s group 1, now on to group 2?

Edited August 29, 2024 by Swipe