The Saudi World Cup 2034

[Cobs]

Another pile of s***

not as bent as Qatar though - everyone knows you can’t compete with their bribery levels so it’s uncontested. FIFA will be furious.

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

the only nations getting Olympics & WCs now are pariah ones

[surf]

Well that's football gone to the s***ter for the foreseeable future 

[kop205]

I reckon Newcastle will win it.

[Nebraska Red]

2 hours ago, kop205 said:

I reckon Newcastle will win it.

Them and City have already secured byes to the knockout phase.

[Hassony]

2 hours ago, Nebraska Red said:

Them and City

Do you need a lesson in Geography?

[Tommy Cockles]

FIFA being sponsored by Aramco now. Will be their largest sponsor at $100 million a year.

So, yeah. There we are.

[Molby]

perhaps it’s an interim reward for becoming more progressive

still not ideal with the head-chopping and stuff but better than five years ago 

like when you get a puppy and eventually it doesn’t poop on the carpet and goes in the garden instead - that’s the time to hand out a treat 

[surf]

1 hour ago, Molby said:

perhaps it’s an interim reward for becoming more progressive

still not ideal with the head-chopping and stuff but better than five years ago 

like when you get a puppy and eventually it doesn’t poop on the carpet and goes in the garden instead - that’s the time to hand out a treat 

no, it's handouts to FIFA officials

[Molby]

46 minutes ago, surf said:

no, it's handouts to FIFA officials

what if it’s handouts but also, they have been progressing and this WC is a fair reward? (by the universe or some kind of deity) 

 

[surf]

24 minutes ago, Molby said:

what if it’s handouts but also, they have been progressing and this WC is a fair reward? (by the universe or some kind of deity) 

 

well they haven't murdered any journalists this year, so that's a step in the right direction

[muleskinner]

1 minute ago, surf said:

well they haven't murdered any journalists this year, so that's a step in the right direction

Just 10s of thousands of Yemeni's.

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

WC - 2018 Russia, 2022 Qatar, 2026 USA, 2030 seems ok, 2034 Saudi

it's basically who can stuff most cash into a paper bag and murder innocent people

[jimbolala]

Afghanistan will be getting an event soon. They have a huge amount of resources and if they can avoid fighting Iran over water and Pakistan collapsing they too can bribe someone soon.

[oojason]

'Saudi Arabia accused of using forced labour ahead of Fifa World Cup decision':-

Union’s claim of ‘epidemic of migrant worker abuses’ could force Fifa to reject state as 2034 host if it fails to meet rights obligations

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/article/2024/jun/05/saudi-arabia-trade-union-forced-labour-migrants-complaint-ilo-fifa-2034-world-cup

 

^ A worker picking rubbish in Al Baha. Saudi Arabia, which bans unions, relies heavily on migrant labour and the BWI claims abuse of workers is widespread.

 

a snippet...

'Saudi Arabia, the likely host of the 2034 World Cup, is facing allegations of widespread use of forced labour among its vast migrant workforce, in a complaint filed at the UN’s International Labour Organization.

The complaint to the ILO alleges that migrant workers in Saudi Arabia are subject to a raft of labour rights violations including failing to pay wages, passport confiscation, illegal recruitment fees, debt bondage and preventing workers freely changing jobs.

The violations amount to “an epidemic of abuses”, according to the trade union that made the complaint, the Building and Wood Workers’ International (BWI).

It said they were evidence of forced labour, a modern form of slavery, which would put Saudi Arabia in breach of its obligations under the UN’s forced labour conventions.'

Edited June 5, 2024 by oojason

[Nebraska Red]

1 hour ago, oojason said:

'Saudi Arabia accused of using forced labour ahead of Fifa World Cup decision':-

Union’s claim of ‘epidemic of migrant worker abuses’ could force Fifa to reject state as 2034 host if it fails to meet rights obligations

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/article/2024/jun/05/saudi-arabia-trade-union-forced-labour-migrants-complaint-ilo-fifa-2034-world-cup

 

^ A worker picking rubbish in Al Baha. Saudi Arabia, which bans unions, relies heavily on migrant labour and the BWI claims abuse of workers is widespread.

 

a snippet...

'Saudi Arabia, the likely host of the 2034 World Cup, is facing allegations of widespread use of forced labour among its vast migrant workforce, in a complaint filed at the UN’s International Labour Organization.

The complaint to the ILO alleges that migrant workers in Saudi Arabia are subject to a raft of labour rights violations including failing to pay wages, passport confiscation, illegal recruitment fees, debt bondage and preventing workers freely changing jobs.

The violations amount to “an epidemic of abuses”, according to the trade union that made the complaint, the Building and Wood Workers’ International (BWI).

It said they were evidence of forced labour, a modern form of slavery, which would put Saudi Arabia in breach of its obligations under the UN’s forced labour conventions.'

All I can see is suitcases full of money being distributed around the world.

[Hassony]

6 hours ago, oojason said:

'Saudi Arabia accused of using forced labour ahead of Fifa World Cup decision':-

Union’s claim of ‘epidemic of migrant worker abuses’ could force Fifa to reject state as 2034 host if it fails to meet rights obligations

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/article/2024/jun/05/saudi-arabia-trade-union-forced-labour-migrants-complaint-ilo-fifa-2034-world-cup

 

^ A worker picking rubbish in Al Baha. Saudi Arabia, which bans unions, relies heavily on migrant labour and the BWI claims abuse of workers is widespread.

 

a snippet...

'Saudi Arabia, the likely host of the 2034 World Cup, is facing allegations of widespread use of forced labour among its vast migrant workforce, in a complaint filed at the UN’s International Labour Organization.

The complaint to the ILO alleges that migrant workers in Saudi Arabia are subject to a raft of labour rights violations including failing to pay wages, passport confiscation, illegal recruitment fees, debt bondage and preventing workers freely changing jobs.

The violations amount to “an epidemic of abuses”, according to the trade union that made the complaint, the Building and Wood Workers’ International (BWI).

It said they were evidence of forced labour, a modern form of slavery, which would put Saudi Arabia in breach of its obligations under the UN’s forced labour conventions.'

Not 100% right, definitely not the case on any PIF projects (which the world cup will be) as there is a lot of scrutiny from the client on the contractor's, including mandatory 3rd party audits on welfare facilities and accommodation,  payments and safety audits 

[Cobs]

FIFA didn’t give a flying f*** about the Qataris behaviour and won’t about the Saudis either

[Cheesecake]

If they manage to come up with some lego brick style stadia that can be sent to landfill, I mean shipped off to Africa and rebuilt in some far flung place them it will all be ok.

[oojason]

Tariq's follow-on posts, and the first reply to it are spot on...

'Cost, practicality, morality, and dead migrant workers be damned'.

[Hassony]

2 minutes ago, oojason said:

Tariq's follow-on posts, and the first reply to it are spot on...

'Cost, practicality, morality, and dead migrant workers be damned'.

I've been here in Saudi now for 18 months,  and we're practically building a whole city bigger than Las Vegas, we've only had one unfortunate fatality so far 

[oojason]

31 minutes ago, Hassony said:

I've been here in Saudi now for 18 months,  and we're practically building a whole city bigger than Las Vegas, we've only had one unfortunate fatality so far 

Nice one - yet let's see how many injuries, fatalities and migrant workers out of pocket by the time the stadiums and infrastructure is all finished for the WC.

[Hassony]

Just now, oojason said:

Nice one - yet let's see how many injuries, fatalities and migrant workers out of pocket by the time the stadiums and infrastructure is all finished for the WC.

Let's hope for zero and for everyone to go back to their family alive and happy 

[surf]

On 31/07/2024 at 19:23, Hassony said:

I've been here in Saudi now for 18 months,  and we're practically building a whole city bigger than Las Vegas, we've only had one unfortunate fatality so far 

The rest of them were lucky b*****ds?

[Cobs]

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/08/global-saudi-arabia-bid-for-the-2034-fifa-world-cup-whitewashes-human-rights-record-while-joint-bid-for-2030-leaves-key-gaps/

Saudi Arabia has failed to meet FIFA’s own human rights requirements in its bid for the 2034 men’s World Cup, Amnesty International said today following the publication of its ‘Bid Book’ for the 48-team tournament. Key gaps also remain in plans for the 2030 World Cup to be held in Morocco, Portugal and Spain.  

An analysis of the ‘Bid Books’ and tournament ‘Human Rights Plans’ published yesterday evening showed that Saudi Arabia has still failed to commit to fundamental reform of its exploitative labour system, or take any action to improve freedom of expression, end the repression of human rights activists or remove laws that discriminate against women and LGBTI people.   

“FIFA set clear human rights standards that any bidding country must meet, yet it is clear that Saudi Arabia’s bid for the 2034 World Cup currently falls far short. The bid’s human rights plan simply ignores many of the enormous risks associated with hosting a mega sporting event in a country with such an atrocious human rights record,” said Steve Cockburn, Amnesty International’s Head of Labour Rights and Sport. 

“Saudi Arabia’s World Cup human rights plan says nothing about the brutal muzzling of human rights activists or criminalization of LGBTI people, nor does it outline whether or how it will put an end in practice to the abusive Kafala system that exploits migrant workers. It is astonishing that such blatant risks can be so flagrantly ignored.