VAR Survey

[Leo No.8]

https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/fsa-var-consultation

Say your piece, I have! 

[kenny7]

Done

 

[Maharajkumar of Vizianagram]

Gather they mostly only want to hear from domestic fans, but done.

[Atticus Finch]

Done. Have said its a big bag of s***e

[Redwire]

Done. I also told them how s*** it is.

[Molby]

c*** of a survey 

[kop205]

Didn't see an option for blowing up Stockley Park

[Red2Core]

Done

[Stevie]

Done - including a full on rant in the last comments box.

[Benzo-13]

Filled it in. Rant too

[Leo No.8]

49 minutes ago, Stevie said:

Done - including a full on rant in the last comments box.

Same here haha 

[kop205]

Not sure what the purpose was of the 'Do you think your club has benefitted or suffered?' question.

Basically setting it up to undermine negative feedback from anyone who reckons their club have been hard done by.

I mean, I reckon we've been shafted by it way more than we've been gifted anything but that isn't really the point - most of the time, last minute derby winners aside, you can still find a way to win anyway.

The point I gave up on it didn't even involve us, it was that Bamford one where he was given offside for pointing where he wanted the ball played. It was mind blowing. It was never offside. It was never being given as offside live. I doubt anyone would even have contemplated arguing it was offside if it had been scored against them.

Before it came in, I was very much for it on the basis that getting the correct decision was paramount and if this meant having to wait whilst stuff was checked and even having to temper celebrations then sound. Even if you suppose that is better - and being less po-faced about it I'm not sure it is - it isn't what we've got anyway cos the decisions are more infuriating than ever.

I mean, it would have been bad enough for the Henderson goal to have been flagged offside live but for them to disallow on a VAR overrule is just astonishing.

Yeah, maybe part of it is to do with weird quirks in the laws of the game and this has just shone a light onto them but the end result is still that it is unmitigated s***e and it needs canning completely for offsides and at the very least significantly amending in terms of the protocols of its use for other stuff. 

It is the f***ing pits.

[Molby]

Why can’t we just modify the offside rule so that the decisions are based solely on where the feet are and the rest of the body is irrelevant ?

then reviews can be almost instant and half the problem is solved 

[kop205]

You'd still have decisions based on blurry images with weird, wobbly lines drawn at a moment arbitrarily chosen by the person who happens to be the one pausing the f***ing Betamax tape that day.

It is irredeemably s***e as things stand. 

[Beardsley]

Done. Including obligatory rant 

[Zoob]

45 minutes ago, Molby said:

Why can’t we just modify the offside rule so that the decisions are based solely on where the feet are and the rest of the body is irrelevant ?

then reviews can be almost instant and half the problem is solved 

Think it should be more a case of if you draw that first line across the pitch and you can't clearly tell if it's onside or offside within 10 seconds, then you give the attacker the benefit of the doubt vs. drawing additional arbitrary lines to try to prove offside 

[Ripley]

46 minutes ago, Molby said:

Why can’t we just modify the offside rule so that the decisions are based solely on where the feet are and the rest of the body is irrelevant ?

then reviews can be almost instant and half the problem is solved 

Agree. Position of feet or "clear space" to modify offside law. VAR is a good innovation ruined by incompetence, useless English officials and an over zealous need to justify itself.

Yard of ale?

[Gethin]

12 minutes ago, Zoob said:

Think it should be more a case of if you draw that first line across the pitch and you can't clearly tell if it's onside or offside within 10 seconds, then you give the attacker the benefit of the doubt vs. drawing additional arbitrary lines to try to prove offside 

I keep making the point - but there's potentially a net 30-40cm change in positions per frame if the defender is pushing out and the attacker is going forward. Use high frame rate cameras or if you need to draw a line to make a decision, give the attacker the benefit of the doubt

[Gerry]

Position of feet would have still allowed that Leicester goal against us, and I think that should be offside.

Allegedly they do use high speed cameras don't they? Still seems s*** anyway. 

[D.Boon]

David Attenborough has better technology at his disposal to watch a couple of Kittiwakes f***ing.

[kenny7]

5 hours ago, Stevie said:

Done - including a full on rant in the last comments box.

Yep, said the failure of VAR was down to the incompetence of those using it.

[Molby]

2 hours ago, Ripley said:

Agree. Position of feet or "clear space" to modify offside law. VAR is a good innovation ruined by incompetence, useless English officials and an over zealous need to justify itself.

Yard of ale?

I guess you’re saying that like capitalism, we don’t want to throw the baby out with the bath water

although it might happen anyway, understandably and powered by fury 

so yeah, bien sur 

2 hours ago, Gethin said:

I keep making the point - but there's potentially a net 30-40cm change in positions per frame if the defender is pushing out and the attacker is going forward. Use high frame rate cameras or if you need to draw a line to make a decision, give the attacker the benefit of the doubt

The answer might be to use not one, but TWO pens stuck together 

[Jarg Armani]

In many ways that disallowed winner at goodison has ruined my life 

[Gethin]

3 hours ago, Gerry said:

Allegedly they do use high speed cameras don't they?

Not that I've read about.

Would be hugely expensive to implement as you'd need loads of them in each ground for very minimal benefit. They're trying to solve everything with technology and it's just not worth spending the money to do that. Unfortunately the alternative is people with a vested interest admitting that the system has flaws

[downunder]

In Tennis if any part of the ball touches the line, it's in. Why not have any part of the body in line, its on side?