Sion Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 Seems pretty far advanced. https://news.sky.com/story/top-english-clubs-in-bombshell-talks-to-join-european-premier-league-12109175
Tosh Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) Liverpool, ManU... “Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester City and Tottenham Hotspur. It is not thought that any of the English clubs has yet signed legally binding terms to join, and it was unclear which member of the so-called "big six" would miss out if only five are ultimately involved.” It could be argued Leicester have won more than Spurs recently...you could also look at “who was most recently in the 2nd tier?” “ who hasn’t recently got of an FFP investigation on a technicality?”, slightly more seriously, it is sort of odd that LFC and MUFC (plc) we’re behind last weeks plan for the lower leagues, while this week they are off doing a super-league Edited October 20, 2020 by Tosh
Sion Posted October 20, 2020 Author Posted October 20, 2020 It's not clear whether this alongside or instead of the PL, but you'd think it must be the latter if there's 30 odd games in it.
Hightown Phil Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Sion said: It's not clear whether this alongside or instead of the PL, but you'd think it must be the latter if there's 30 odd games in it. It's instead of the Champions League isn't it?
Sion Posted October 20, 2020 Author Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Hightown Phil said: It's instead of the Champions League isn't it? How can it be? If there's an 18 team league who all play each other at least once plus knockouts that's a minimum of about 20 games. If its home and away games it's 40 odd. Unless it's in mini groups but that's basically the CL but with handpicked teams isn't it? What's the point of that?
Flasher Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Hightown Phil said: It's instead of the Champions League isn't it? I don't think so. CL isn't broken and is open to all to try and qualify, this reads like a closed shop and is the big clubs looking to have a comp that is their main focus. IF, and it's a big if, Liverpool were to help construct and then join a league like this, with it becoming more important or replace their involvement in the top tier of English football, I'd be out. f*** that.
Hightown Phil Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Sion said: How can it be? If there's an 18 team league who all play each other at least once plus knockouts that's a minimum of about 20 games. If its home and away games it's 40 odd. Unless it's in mini groups but that's basically the CL but with handpicked teams isn't it? What's the point of that? If you play each team once and knock the Premier League down to 18 teams, you'd be playing the same number of games as if you got to the Champions League final.
cocknose Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, Flasher said: I don't think so. CL isn't broken and is open to all to try and qualify, this reads like a closed shop and is the big clubs looking to have a comp that is their main focus. IF, and it's a big if, Liverpool were to help construct and then join a league like this, with it becoming more important or replace their involvement in the top tier of English football, I'd be out. f*** that. 100 percent
Sion Posted October 20, 2020 Author Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Hightown Phil said: If you play each team once and knock the Premier League down to 18 teams, you'd be playing the same number of games as if you got to the Champions League final. So you think the top clubs are happy to sign up to play close to 70 games every single season, pretty much guaranteed? Plus with the knockout on the end of the super league is at least another 3 or 4 games. The PL would never vote reducing the number of teams as well.
Sir Tokyo Sexwale Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, Sion said: How can it be? If there's an 18 team league who all play each other at least once plus knockouts that's a minimum of about 20 games. If its home and away games it's 40 odd. Unless it's in mini groups but that's basically the CL but with handpicked teams isn't it? What's the point of that? money guaranteed money
Hightown Phil Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sion said: So you think the top clubs are happy to sign up to play close to 70 games every single season, pretty much guaranteed? Plus with the knockout on the end of the super league is at least another 3 or 4 games. The PL would never vote reducing the number of teams as well. I dunno, if you told every club they were playing 70 games this season, next season and the season after I reckon they'd be happy cos of what it meant they were doing on the pitch though.
psl Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 At least we wouldnt have to run the Everton gauntlet of death any more.
PaulMcC186 Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 Liverpool and United are c****, aren't they? Always looking a closed shop so they can make more money.
Cam Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 Instead of the CL? I'm not hugely impressed but it wouldn't be that much different really. Instead of the PL? Absolutely not. Would kill the game and who's really arsed about European team 'rivalry'? Yeah, we like to meet & beat a Madrid or Barca every now and then but it's not a proper rivalry; nothing historical about it. So I'm 99.9% against it. Unless it means we leave the FA (and England) for good. In which case count me in.
Sion Posted October 20, 2020 Author Posted October 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Cam said: Instead of the CL? I'm not hugely impressed but it wouldn't be that much different really. Instead of the PL? Absolutely not. Would kill the game and who's really arsed about European team 'rivalry'? Yeah, we like to meet & beat a Madrid or Barca every now and then but it's not a proper rivalry; nothing historical about it. So I'm 99.9% against it. Unless it means we leave the FA (and England) for good. In which case count me in. The rivalry thing doesn't really bother me. My prevailing opinion of most clubs in England is they're full of horrible scouse hating bores who love it when we fail. Not having to listen to 'feed the scousers' and the like every week would be great. But if we left the PL entirely it would be crap for the match going fans. We'd go years without winning anything and would have to get used to regularly finishing bottom half. We'd also be pissing away pretty much the entire history of the club.
PaulMcC186 Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 What would stop them playing home games outside Liverpool as the next step after this?
Hightown Phil Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, PaulMcC186 said: What would stop them playing home games outside Liverpool as the next step after this? That one of the most marketable things we have as a club is Anfield?
PaulMcC186 Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Hightown Phil said: That one of the most marketable things we have as a club is Anfield? What if they could make more money having 5/6 games a season in New York, Dubai, Tokyo etc? What would stop them. They seemingly just want to do whatever makes them most money.
Hightown Phil Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, PaulMcC186 said: What if they could make more money having 5/6 games a season in New York, Dubai, Tokyo etc? What would stop them. They seemingly just want to do whatever makes them most money. I don't think that would make them more money at all. It would reduce interest in the product because it makes it considerably worse.
McBain Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 We're basically Jared Leto in Fight Club at this point aren't we 1
PaulMcC186 Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Hightown Phil said: I don't think that would make them more money at all. It would reduce interest in the product because it makes it considerably worse. If it made them more money what would stop them doing it? Has the NFL had reduced interest cos they play games in London? This change makes European competition considerably worse cos you don't have to qualify, and they're considering it. Edited October 20, 2020 by PaulMcC186
Benzo-13 Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 I’d wash my hands of most of the leagues fans as they’re all c****. Going the games wouldn’t be as much fun though as our rivalries wouldn’t be as hard core. Though beating Roma, Juventus, Real and Barcelona a lot would be a laugh. Think this is all an endgame to get their own internet live streaming rights.
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