VAR

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

It's a nonsense, not it, itself but its implementation.

 

Look at the Napoli game - the ref awards a penalty, wrongly. It's not reviewed because it's not a clear & obvious error though - apparently. So consider - 

 

City - 2 late winners vs Spurs disallowed (EC & League) both by decisions impossible to see with the naked eye. Not clear & obvious but reviewed because they resulted in goals.

 

The Napoli pen ultimately resulted in a goal.

 

The Matip incident against Newcastle - how was that not clear & obvious? It was to everyone in the ground.

 

On the flip side to Napoli/Newcastle - there's the pen that ManU got to k/o PSG - no-one, no player, no fan thought that was a pen - yet VAR ruled on it. 

 

And then Arsenal - Lacazette gets the ball when offside, bursts away & before he can get a shot away is tackled. Not called back for offside. If Arsenal score from the corner it's a goal; but if Matip doesn't get there & they score it's not a goal. 

 

If the Napoli player had half of his foot offside - imperceptible to anyone - when the ball was played; no goal on review, but he can dive win a pen and score and there's no review.

 

Imagine trying to explain all of this to someone watching the game for the first time

[D.Boon]

I'm glad you've all come round to my way of thinking. Bin it off.

[Nathan Explosion]

Imagine trying to explain all of this to someone watching the game for the first time

 

I prefer "By fans......"

[Hassony]

Every example you cited, apart from the PSG one, is down to inept referees rather than VAR

 

If VAR wasn't there, all these decisions would have been the same (again apart from the PSG one)

 

The problem isn't VAR, the problem is the utilisation of VAR and that it's controlled by current refs who are mates with the w***er in the middle

[cymrococh]

Bale's beautiful goal last night being ruled out by some nob in front of a screen somewhere is a disgrace

[Hassony]

He clearly handled it though

[cymrococh]

Why do you hate beauty Hass? Why?

[muleskinner]

Bale's beautiful goal last night being ruled out by some nob in front of a screen somewhere is a disgrace

He teed it up with his forearm

[Swipe]

Bale's beautiful goal last night being ruled out by some nob in front of a screen somewhere is a disgrace

Keown is a lunatic.

[John am Rhein]

Why do you hate beauty Hass? Why?

it's undemocratic

[Bailo]

I was a big supporter of VAR coming in, God knows we've had some s***e called against us.

 

It's an absolute mess atm. Another bad decision not overturned by VAR in the Soton v Bournemouth game. Blatent pen not given on the field and not overturned

[Jarg Armani]

Its the worth of boast worlds

[muleskinner]

Its s***

[growler]

It’s been a month. I’d rather they ease it in. There has be a balance between what we have now at the extremes in summer.

[psl]

It’s been a month. I’d rather they ease it in. There has be a balance between what we have now at the extremes in summer.

Ease it in by deliberately not overturning bad decisions?

[Hightown Phil]

Ease it in by deliberately not overturning bad decisions?

 

Haha quite. 

 

If they aren't giving a penalty for that one Southampton had last night, they might never actually overturn one. 

[dorgie]

Ease it in by deliberately not overturning bad decisions?

Keeping the old stat of getting 98% of decisions right in tact if VAR never overturns them. Almost perfect refs in England, don’t you know.

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

Every example you cited, apart from the PSG one, is down to inept referees rather than VAR

 

If VAR wasn't there, all these decisions would have been the same (again apart from the PSG one)

 

The problem isn't VAR, the problem is the utilisation of VAR and that it's controlled by current refs who are mates with the w***** in the middle

 

The problem is though, no VAR and we moan about the ref getting it wrong & move on. With VAR we're supposed to have a failsafe - we're going to get it right now. So when they don't it seems doubly frustrating.

 

And Spurs vs Leicester. Yes, technically offside but do me a f***ing favour. Look at how the red and blue lines are arranged, anyone could just transpose those & say he's onside & we'd be none the wiser. Offside was about gaining unfair advantage; 1mm is no advantage

[billybunter]

Offside was about gaining unfair advantage; 1mm is no advantage

Sure, but where do you draw the line?

[Barnesy_10]

MotD were spot on saying that there should be a camera picking up the exact moment the ball leaves the foot for the pass when they are picking up an offside by such a tiny fraction as they did for that Spurs goal

 

The fact they don't have the technology to show and prove the exact moment the ball leaves the foot means they shouldn't be discounting goals with such fine margins as they are

[psl]

I wanted VAR but its s***.

[Tosh]

Sure, but where do you draw the line?

Ba da, boom, tish

[McBain]

Hated VAR then. Hate it now. And I'll hate it tomorrow

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

MotD were spot on saying that there should be a camera picking up the exact moment the ball leaves the foot for the pass when they are picking up an offside by such a tiny fraction as they did for that Spurs goal

 

The fact they don't have the technology to show and prove the exact moment the ball leaves the foot means they shouldn't be discounting goals with such fine margins as they are

 

The Spurs one as an example - you see the blue & red lines, the blue one is goalside of the red one, so offside. Absolutely no-one would have argued differently if those red & blue lines were reversed so now he's onside & the goal stands. 

[Jarg Armani]

I wanted VAR but its s***.

Me too. They shouldn’t have let refs be in charge of it.