Craig Pawson

[Billy Talbot]

Now... is he just a bad ref that seems to have peculiarly bad games with us involved or what? 

[Hassony]

He's a bad ref

 

Not sure what decisions he got wrong today though

[Billy Talbot]

  On 27/01/2018 at 22:16, Hassony said:

He's a bad ref

 

Not sure what decisions he got wrong today though

 

Apart from the 2 that were overturned by VAR. 

 

And being a general c***. He seems to me like refs games like would a Man U game if I was a professional ref. 

 

I reckon he's a closet manc. 

Edited January 27, 2018 by Billy Talbot

[Nebraska Red]

The first should have been seen by his assistant, the second was the kind of challenge that gets missed every week.

 

He's not a great ref, but he wasn't that bad today. Only 4 minutes added time was a f***ing joke though.

[Hassony]

  On 27/01/2018 at 23:27, Billy Talbot said:

Apart from the 2 that were overturned by VAR.

 

And being a general c***. He seems to me like refs games like would a Man U game if I was a professional ref.

 

I reckon he's a closet manc.

They weren't overturned by VAR, he made the right decisions to go refer to VAR

[Billy Talbot]

  On 27/01/2018 at 23:39, Nebraska Red said:

The first should have been seen by his assistant, the second was the kind of challenge that gets missed every week.

 

He's not a great ref, but he wasn't that bad today. Only 4 minutes added time was a f***ing joke though.

 

I said at half time to someone who said we'd come back in this game at half time. "just count needless freekicks from innocuous fouls within 10 yards of the half way line.". Doesn't matter who they go to. 

 

I stopped counting them within 5 or so minutes. He had no intention of letting the game run. Always in favour of a side dropping deep and with lead. Even when they're the ones committing fouls. 

 

Don't get me started on Barry. 

 

 

  On 27/01/2018 at 23:40, Hassony said:

They weren't overturned by VAR, he made the right decisions to go refer to VAR

 

Hmmm. So if he didn't go to VAR he was wrong... And the decisions he made in the first place were wrong. 

 

He's a bad c***. 

Edited January 27, 2018 by Billy Talbot

[Nebraska Red]

If I'm not mistaken, the ref doesn't go to VAR, it goes to him because the ref watching has seen something.

[Earl Hafler]

  On 27/01/2018 at 23:40, Hassony said:

They weren't overturned by VAR, he made the right decisions to go refer to VAR

The goal is automatically reviewed. Also, Marriner can watch a replay of the Salah incident and advise Pawson. Doesn’t have to be the ref who initiates the review process.

[Hassony]

  On 28/01/2018 at 00:27, Earl Hafler said:

The goal is automatically reviewed. Also, Marriner can watch a replay of the Salah incident and advise Pawson. Doesn’t have to be the ref who initiates the review process.

I see

Who has the final decision?

[Earl Hafler]

Goal decisions are fairly obvious, penalty decisions the match ref has the final say.

 

Pawson should have been over to the pitch side monitor much sooner for the penalty yesterday but wasn’t helped by Evans and other WBA players constantly trying to influence his opinion.

Clubs must inform players not to speak to the officials during the review process.

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

  On 28/01/2018 at 00:34, Hassony said:

I see

Who has the final decision?

 

Clear as mud wasn't it?

 

Ref has to have final decision. BUT the penalty must have been alerted to him by Mariner.

 

However, is it only goal-related incidents that are reviewed then? Because that bad bell should have walked for that challenge on Firmino

[pipnasty]

What kind of name is Pawson anyway?

[Ripley]

  On 28/01/2018 at 17:13, Pipnasty said:

What kind of name is Pawson anyway?

"It's Pawson's name sir", said Major Metcalf.

[Swipe]

Pawson’s Creek.

[Billy Dane]

Pardew is going on about the penalty decision taking 4 minutes, with that, the other two VAR reviews, 4 goals, time wasting by Foster and injuries/subs why was only 4 minutes injury time added on at the end of the 1st half?

Think time keeping should be handed over to the 4th official.

[Nebraska Red]

  On 28/01/2018 at 23:59, Billy Dane said:

Pardew is going on about the penalty decision taking 4 minutes, with that, the other two VAR reviews, 4 goals, time wasting by Foster and injuries/subs why was only 4 minutes injury time added on at the end of the 1st half?

Think time keeping should be handed over to the 4th official.

 

Or, we go to 30 minutes of actual play with the clock stopped each time the ball is out of play or the game is stopped by the ref.

[Hightown Phil]

Foster in the last 10 minutes was a joke. He had the ball for 18 seconds at one point. 

[Nebraska Red]

  On 29/01/2018 at 14:00, Hightown Phil said:

Foster in the last 10 minutes was a joke. He had the ball for 18 seconds at one point.

Good for him if he gets away with it. That's the mindset we need to have in a similar situation.

Up to the ref to sort it out.

[Billy Dane]

Up to our lot to really get in the refs ear about the time wasting as well -as usual we just sat back and waited for Foster to release the ball. Suarez used to count down the seconds the keeper was holding the ball.

[RP]

  On 29/01/2018 at 16:32, Nebraska Red said:

Good for him if he gets away with it. That's the mindset we need to have in a similar situation.

Up to the ref to sort it out.

 

 

Well you don't know you're going to get away with it until it's too late, do you? Mignolet has fcking tried this ... and been the only Keeper since the dawn of time to be done for it.

  On 29/01/2018 at 17:53, Billy Dane said:

Up to our lot to really get in the refs ear about the time wasting as well -as usual we just sat back and waited for Foster to release the ball. Suarez used to count down the seconds the keeper was holding the ball.

 

 

The crowd is as much to blame for that - should be screaming the place down as soon as the oppo keeper gets the ball in his hands.

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

Suarez used to count down 6s all the time.

 

It's one of those things I hate - and our keepers never do it when we need them to - routine ball through, keeper goes to ground to claim it. Then lies there for 6-10 secs, then holds the ball for about another 10, then drops it at his feet and waits till someone makes a move to close him down....

 

I mean, it's what he should be doing but it grates

[RP]

Aka ale house football.

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

Need to go back to 1950s rules. 

 

Start laying the boot in when the keeper's on the deck. That'll get him on his feet pronto & incentivize him to rid himself of the ball

[Jarg Armani]

  On 29/01/2018 at 17:53, Billy Dane said:

Up to our lot to really get in the refs ear about the time wasting as well -as usual we just sat back and waited for Foster to release the ball. Suarez used to count down the seconds the keeper was holding the ball.

I LOVED it when Suarez did that.