Burnley Sat 3pm KO

[Dan]

Feels like it needs shaking up a bit.

 

Midfield has to change - those three have played pretty much every game this season with varying degrees of success/failure.

 

These b*****ds are going to low block the f*** out of it and play long to Chris Wood so we need Coutinho deeper and Sturridge on the pitch imo.

 

4-4-2 diamond might be worth a try but not sure what the midfield and strikers should be.

[Cobs]

Mig

 

TAA Lovren Matip Milner

 

Hendo Wijnaldum

 

Coutinho

 

Salah  Sturridge OXC

[realtarragona]

Mig

TAA Matip Lovren Moreno

Henderson

Coutinho AOC

Salah Firmino Sturridge

[lfc003]

------------ Mignolet ------------

Gomez Matip Lovren Robertson

- Ox -------- Hendo ------ Can -

- Salah ---- Studge ---- Firmino

 

Subs: Karuis, Klavan, TAA, Phil, Gini, Milner, Solanke

[Nebraska Red]

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[Flanders]

Karius

TAA Matip Gomez Milner

Can Wijnaldum

Coutinho

Salah Firmino OXC

 

Surely Hendo can't start or is he totally over his injuries?

[Molby]

------------ Mignolet ------------

Gomez Matip Lovren Robertson

- Ox -------- Hendo ------ Can -

- Salah ---- Studge ---- Firmino

 

Subs: Karuis, Klavan, TAA, Phil, Gini, Milner, Solanke

Firmino wide = waste of time, as proved multiple times

especially to accommodate Sturridge in a 3 

 

there's a case for Sturridge as a penalty box striker or taking pot shots in these types of games but I don't think it's strong enough

and if it was, I'd prefer a diamond to ease the way a bit

[Red2Core]

.these just need twatting

[sutty]

Reckon we are seeing rotation in this. 

 

Expect Robbo in at LB, Milner in MF and starts for Sturridge, Coutinho & Chambo.

 

Reckon Hendo, Albie and maybe Bobby F to miss out Mane too obviously.  

[McBain]

Reckon we are seeing rotation in this.

 

Expect Robbo in at LB, Milner in MF and starts for Sturridge, Coutinho & Chambo.

 

Reckon Hendo, Albie and maybe Bobby F to miss out Mane too obviously.

If you're ever gonna do it, this is the one

 

I'd make all those changes especially Firmino he's played every game plus the international commitments

[MarkD]

Ming

 

Gomez- Any two of the three c/b lumps - Robertson

 

Milner - Henderson- Wijnaldum

 

Salah - Studge - AOC

 

Subs: - Karius, the non starting c/b, Moreno, TAA, Solanke, Coutinho, Woodburn

[Dan]

Don't think we get close to seeing Sturridge at his best as the striker in a front three these days. He needs a partner.

[Cobs]

Don't think we get close to seeing Sturridge at his best as the striker in a front three these days. 

 

like to see him a few times alongside Mane & Salah before that call is made

[Molby]

like to see him a few times alongside Mane & Salah before that call is made

he'll be 10 yards behind them

 

(that's me making the call)

[The_Adder]

Its time for a change before we all lose our minds - no Lovren, no Moreno please.

 

 

A keeper (really not arsed who anymore, both not good enough)

 

TAA - Gomez - Matip - Robertson

 

Henderson

 

Coutinho - Wijnaldum

 

Salah - Firmino - Ox

 

 

I'd drop Can too, need to commit and sign his new deal, and for pathetic 'tackle' for their 1st last night, think Gini has been very good.

 

Gomez could be very good, he cannot be anywhere near as bad as that joker.

[downunder]

Can’t see much rotation. He will do that v Leicester midweek. Otherwise there will be too many changes each game.

[surf]

drop can for coutinho, get sturridge on for mane, job done

[Jarg Armani]

I'm worried about this game

[rednotdead]

Karius

TAA Gomez Matip Robertson

            Can

Chamberlain Coutinho

Woodburn Firmino Salah

[sutty]

Its time for a change before we all lose our minds - no Lovren, no Moreno please.

 

 

A keeper (really not arsed who anymore, both not good enough)

 

TAA - Gomez - Matip - Robertson

 

Henderson

 

Coutinho - Wijnaldum

 

Salah - Firmino - Ox

 

 

I'd drop Can too, need to commit and sign his new deal, and for pathetic 'tackle' for their 1st last night, think Gini has been very good.

 

Gomez could be very good, he cannot be anywhere near as bad as that joker.

 

If that were the team I'd be really hoping they didnt get a corner of FK all game. 

 

Hendo the 3rd best in the air in that side. 

[Molby]

If that were the team I'd be really hoping they didnt get a corner of FK all game. 

 

Hendo the 3rd best in the air in that side. 

just keep showing them inside

[The_Adder]

If that were the team I'd be really hoping they didnt get a corner of FK all game. 

 

Hendo the 3rd best in the air in that side. 

 

And you don't worry about that anyway? What kind of drugs do you take I want some. 

[Hus]

I think Hendo could do with being dropped, I'd like to see Milner in CM. Maybe he'll get caught out of position less.

[The_Adder]

I think Hendo could do with being dropped, I'd like to see Milner in CM. Maybe he'll get caught out of position less.

 

Agree, but will that actually happen?

[Will]

Double Agents

           

In advance of our first meeting of the season, YNWA looks at the careers of those few who have represented both Burnley and the reds.

           

Current double agents

Danny Ings signed from Burnley in July 2015, with the fee eventually set by a tribunal at an initial £6.5m. He has so far scored three goals in eleven outings as his first two seasons at Anfield were both cut short by serious injury. He had moved to Turf Moor for a reported £1m from Bournemouth in August 2011, netting 43 times in 130 games as well as being named Championship Player of the Year as they were promoted in 2013/14.

           

Full-back Jon Flanagan spent last season on loan with the Clarets, having struck once in fifty reds games since making his debut in April 2011. However, he could only play ten times.

           

Other recent double agents

Midfielder Brian Hall signed on in July 1968 fresh from graduating university, netting 21 times in 224 games and helping us to claim a League title, UEFA Cup, FA Cup and FA Charity Shield. His most memorable moment came when he bagged his first reds goal, the FA Cup Semi-final winner against Everton at Old Trafford in March 1971. He also scored at the same stage against Leicester City three years later. He moved on to Plymouth Argyle in July 1976, later finishing his playing career with Burnley, netting three goals in 43 League games. He returned to Anfield in 1991 to take up the post of Public Relations Manager, a position he held until 2012.

           

Swedish left-winger Alex Kačaniklić signed from Helsingborgs IF in the summer of 2007 and scored in the FA Youth Cup Final in 2009, establishing himself as a regular in the reserves before moving to Fulham in August 2010 as part of the Paul Konchesky deal. He joined the Clarets on loan in March 2013, playing six times without scoring.

           

Another loan move

Paul Stewart joined First Division Burnley on loan from the reds in February 1995. He made six appearances for the Clarets as they headed towards relegation. The England international had arrived at Anfield from Tottenham Hotspur for £2.3m in July 1992. His time with the reds was a failure, as he scored just three times in 42 appearances in nearly four seasons. He left for Sunderland on a free transfer in March 1996 after a successful loan spell.

           

Behind the scenes

Left-half Tom Bromilow signed professional terms at Anfield in 1919, having asked for a trial straight from the army. He went on to make 375 appearances, scoring eleven times while helping us to claim two League titles in successive seasons in the 1920’s, as well as earning full international honours with England. He later moved into management, taking over at Turf Moor in October 1932. Although he was unable to return them to the top flight, he led them to the FA Cup Semi-final in 1934, moving on to Crystal Palace in July 1936.

           

Frank McParland started out with the reds in 1995 by assisting John Owens with the Under-14’s. When the Academy opened in 1999 he was handed a full-time role as head of the community coaching department. Gérard Houllier later gave him a scouting role before Rafael Benítez made him Joint Chief Scout, moving to Bolton Wanderers as General Manager in July 2007, although he only remained there three months. He returned to Melwood in May 2009, moving up to be Director of Academy and Player Development two years later. He became Director of Football at Brentford in December 2013, moving on to Burnley as Sporting Director in June 2015, but quit just four months later to join Rangers.

           

Keeper Tony Waiters won five senior England caps in 1964 while playing for Blackpool. He left there in 1967 to take on a coaching role with the reds, but returned to playing with Burnley in 1970, turning out in 38 League games before becoming the Manager of Plymouth Argyle in 1972. Mark Leather has worked as a physiotherapist with both clubs.

           

Scottish double agents of yore

Forward Malcolm McVean scored our first ever League goal after arriving from Third Lanark in 1892, and bagged 43 in total in 126 reds games, helping us to the Lancashire League title and two Second Division championships. He moved on to Burnley in March 1897, but only played four times before returning north to sign for Dundee.

           

Inside-right Jimmy Ross signed from the ‘invincible’ Preston North End for a club record £75 in 1894, helping us to the Second Division title, scoring 39 times in 85 reds games and captaining the side before joining Burnley alongside McVean in March 1897. He could not prevent the Turf Moor outfit from being relegated, though he struck 23 times in 27 League outings as they won the Second Division title the following season. However, he moved on to Manchester City during 1898/99. The ‘little demon’ was a key player in the formation of the Association Footballers’ Union in February 1898, founded in protest at wage restrictions imposed by the FA, and sadly died aged just 36 in June 1902 having succumbed to an acute skin disease.

           

Reserves moving on

Defender Alan Harper never made our first team and moved across the park in June 1983, going on to net five goals in 240 games across two spells with the Toffees, including the 1984 League Cup Final and replay. He joined Burnley on a free transfer from Luton Town in August 1994. He played 42 times in his two seasons at Turf Moor before retiring from playing, as they were relegated into the Second Division.

           

Winger Brian Mooney signed from Home Farm for £20,000 in August 1983 but only ever played one senior reds game, as a substitute for Jim Beglin in a League Cup win at Fulham in October 1986, later enjoying greater fortune at Preston North End. He joined the Clarets on loan from Sunderland during 1992/93, although he was apparently dead set against the move. He played six League games without scoring before returning to the north east.

           

Wartime guests

Keeper Alf Hobson signed from Shildon Colliery in April 1936 and made 28 reds appearances either side of the Second World War, as well as playing 171 wartime games. Scottish forward Bill Kinghorn signed from Queens Park in April 1938 and netted four times in nineteen reds games. Both of these players guested for the Clarets during the war.

           

Other double agents

Inside-forward Edgar Chadwick had won the League with Everton in 1891, and joined Burnley aged thirty. He top scored with ten goals as they were relegated to the Second Division, before moving on to Southampton in the Southern League. As Burnley still held his Football League registration, the reds had to pay the Clarets £35 in May 1902. However, he only managed 45 reds appearances, netting seven times, before joining Southampton as an amateur in May 1904. He later had a successful career as a coach in Germany and the Netherlands, including guiding the Dutch national side to bronze medals in the 1908 and 1912 Olympics.

           

Jim Furnell signed from Burnley for £18,000 in February 1962, for whom he had played just two League games. He took over in goal during that promotion season, but broke his finger early the following season, losing his place to Tommy Lawrence. He made just 28 first-team appearances before moving to Arsenal in November 1963, and is fondly remembered as Plymouth Argyle’s greatest ever custodian.

           

Centre-forward Les Shannon signed professional terms at Anfield in November 1944, having to wait until April 1948 to make his reds bow. He bagged just one goal in eleven games, as well as six in fifteen wartime appearances, moving on to Burnley in November 1949. He came into his own as a deep-lying inside-forward and wing-half at Turf Moor, netting a total of 44 goals in 281 games before retiring in September 1958. He was the father of recent Under-16’s coach Dave Shannon.

           

Burnley-born left-winger Peter Kippax struck six times in 32 League games as an amateur for his hometown club before joining the reds in 1948, having helped Great Britain to fourth place in the Olympics football competition that summer. He made one League outing, against Birmingham City in March 1949, having already netted in a Wartime League fixture for the reds against Bolton Wanderers in August 1945, before moving on to Preston North End in 1950. Forward Neil Edwards was an apprentice at Anfield, and only played one League game for Burnley, whom he joined from the reds in 1985.

           

Half-back Tommy Gardner signed as an amateur from Orrell in July 1928, and then professionally the following April, but played only five reds games before moving on to Grimsby Town in May 1931. He was eventually capped twice for England during his stint at Aston Villa, from whom he joined Burnley in 1938, scoring three goals in 39 League games for the Clarets. Forward Edmund Hancock signed from Gainsborough Trinity in January 1931, scoring twice in ten reds games before joining Tom Bromilow’s Burnley in February 1933 where he struck 23 times in 112 League games before moving on to Luton Town in 1936. Scottish forward Abe Hartley signed from Everton for £175 in December 1897, but only notched once in twelve outings before joining Southern League side Southampton the following May. He joined Burnley from Woolwich Arsenal in December 1899, scoring five times in thirteen League games as they were relegated to the Second Division, retiring at the end of that season.