Transfer Window Speculation

[PaulMcC186]

I don't think Kerkez looks as creative as Robertson. Haven't watched him loads but the stats say he doesn't create as much as Robertson even this season.

[Dan]

Just now, PaulMcC186 said:

I don't think Kerkez looks as creative as Robertson. Haven't watched him loads but the stats say he doesn't create as much as Robertson even this season.

Ah but have you checked his expected assists?

[PaulMcC186]

2 minutes ago, Dan said:

Ah but have you checked his expected assists?

I have actually, on here.

https://understat.com/player/1688

[YugoB]

3 minutes ago, PaulMcC186 said:

I don't think Kerkez looks as creative as Robertson. Haven't watched him loads but the stats say he doesn't create as much as Robertson even this season.

Robertson was worse of creatively the year before he joined us, compared to his first season with us. His first season with us is comparable to Kerkez current season when it comes to creating chances. 

Robbo took a significant leap from around 25 chances created from 16 to 2017, to 50 in 18/19.

 

[PaulMcC186]

3 minutes ago, YugoB said:

Robertson was worse of creatively the year before he joined us, compared to his first season with us. His first season with us is comparable to Kerkez current season when it comes to creating chances. 

Robbo took a significant leap from around 25 chances created from 16 to 2017, to 50 in 18/19.

 

https://understat.com/player/1688

You can check individual seasons on this. Kerkez isn't creating as much as Robertson in his first season with us, or this season.

Robertson's stats were crap at Hull, though. But he was cheap.

[Benzo-13]

21 minutes ago, Swipe said:

 

Look it’s not our money and we are boxing off goals here. If the club is willing to pay it, do it.

The alternatives are Eketite and Sesko. German league forwards are what Gattuso says.

[kop205]

22 minutes ago, Swipe said:

 

If he has a clause then all of that is Newcastle's problem

If he doesn't then he isn't coming anyway

[YugoB]

Robertson 17/18 [league stats for both]

Chances created - 24

Assists - 5

Big chances created - 8 

https://www.fotmob.com/players/357880/andrew-robertson

https://www.premierleague.com/players/10458/Andy-Robertson/stats?co=1&se=79

 

Kerkez this season

Chances created - 26

Assists - 5 

Big chances created - 6 

https://www.fotmob.com/players/1195281/milos-kerkez

https://www.premierleague.com/players/116665/Milos-Kerkez/stats?co=1&se=719

 

We're assuming that Slot is more focused on the attacking aspect, defensively Kerkez is better than Robertson 

[genghis]

On 25/03/2025 at 13:19, Gethin said:

That's me at a corner 

That's me in the spotlight 

Losing my assignment 

Radio Free Transfer

(one for the proper oldies there.  So: all of us)

((and goddammit if there isn't space in this forum for a new type of pun))

 

[PaulMcC186]

5 minutes ago, YugoB said:

Robertson 17/18 [league stats for both]

Chances created - 24

Assists - 5

Big chances created - 8 

https://www.fotmob.com/players/357880/andrew-robertson

https://www.premierleague.com/players/10458/Andy-Robertson/stats?co=1&se=79

 

Kerkez this season

Chances created - 26

Assists - 5 

Big chances created - 6 

https://www.fotmob.com/players/1195281/milos-kerkez

https://www.premierleague.com/players/116665/Milos-Kerkez/stats?co=1&se=719

 

We're assuming that Slot is more focused on the attacking aspect, defensively Kerkez is better than Robertson 

Not all chances are equal. I think it's almost guaranteed Kerkez will improve but I thought we'd be able to get someone cheaper who we could improve to be good enough rather than pay £45m.

[McBain]

Kerkez does look a bit like the Spitting Image version of himself. But we accept all here at this church

[YugoB]

Just now, PaulMcC186 said:

Not all chances are equal. I think it's almost guaranteed Kerkez will improve but I thought we'd be able to get someone cheaper who we could improve to be good enough rather than pay £45m.

You are right they aren't, but there is a metric on the PL's website ''big chances'' created that takes that into account

He's 23 years old, proven in one of the toughest league's in the world, on the back of a good season, you aren't going to find many players available for cheap with those things taken into account.

IF we have the money, I'm not arsed how much we spend on any individual player that's good and the manager/club wants. You sign him now and you're sorted for the next 6/7 years in the position.

There aren't many cheap fullbacks to begin with that are available 

[PaulMcC186]

1 minute ago, YugoB said:

You are right they aren't, but there is a metric on the PL's website ''big chances'' created that takes that into account

He's 23 years old, proven in one of the toughest league's in the world, on the back of a good season, you aren't going to find many players available for cheap with those things taken into account.

IF we have the money, I'm not arsed how much we spend on any individual player that's good and the manager/club wants. You sign him now and you're sorted for the next 6/7 years in the position.

There aren't many cheap fullbacks to begin with that are available 

Not all big chances are equal either. A pass to someone on the line is a big chance. A pass to someone to shoot from 15 yards is also a big chance.

If we've unlimited money I don't care either. Get Isak too.

Edited 3 hours ago by PaulMcC186

[YugoB]

5 minutes ago, PaulMcC186 said:

Not all big chances are equal either. A pass to someone on the line is a big chance. A pass to someone to shoot from 15 yards is also a big chance.

If we've unlimited money I don't care either. Get Isak too.

I'm not disagreeing with any of that, I'm not arguing otherwise.

Again to my previous point, we don't know what Slot wants in his fullback post this season. Is he more worried about the defensive side of the game? Is he more worried about the balance between both ends of the pitch? Perhaps he isn't looking to have someone who is identical to Robbo in the final third [there may not be that type of player available], and is keen on the other aspects. Is he ok with Kerkez being slightly worse going forward than Robbo but provides more than enough defensively to negate that? I'm not sure.  Robbo's struggles havent been in the final third to begin with, they've been defensively, not in every game, but more than enough times where it's an area we need to address, especially since Robbo has a significant amount of miles in his legs.

 

 

[Swipe]

Yeah I'd say Slot almost certainly doesn't want two Klopp-like fullbacks.

Maybe the new right back will be ultra offensive. 

Like shouting racial epithets and that.

[PaulMcC186]

6 minutes ago, YugoB said:

I'm not disagreeing with any of that, I'm not arguing otherwise.

Again to my previous point, we don't know what Slot wants in his fullback post this season. Is he more worried about the defensive side of the game? Is he more worried about the balance between both ends of the pitch? Perhaps he isn't looking to have someone who is identical to Robbo in the final third [there may not be that type of player available], and is keen on the other aspects. Is he ok with Kerkez being slightly worse going forward than Robbo but provides more than enough defensively to negate that? I'm not sure.  Robbo's struggles havent been in the final third to begin with, they've been defensively, not in every game, but more than enough times where it's an area we need to address, especially since Robbo has a significant amount of miles in his legs.

 

 

I want to replace Robertson as a starter. I was only using him as a reference. I think he's been playing well for a while, though. 

5 minutes ago, Swipe said:

Yeah I'd say Slot almost certainly doesn't want two Klopp-like fullbacks.

Maybe the new right back will be ultra offensive. 

Like shouting racial epithets and that.

It could be Frimpong. He's rarely behind the ball and doesn't even pass it much. He's always ahead of the ball looking to run onto it. 

[D.Boon]

I like the idea of Slot going and finding a soon to be star forward from Holland.

f*** knows if such a player exists 

[stressederic]

1 hour ago, YugoB said:

Get it done 

Get the feeling it already is

[YugoB]

1 minute ago, D.Boon said:

I like the idea of Slot going and finding a soon to be star forward from Holland.

f*** knows if such a player exists 

Doesn't look like it, they'd be happy to have someone play up front for them instead of Depay. 

[surf]

16 minutes ago, YugoB said:

Doesn't look like it, they'd be happy to have someone play up front for them instead of Depay. 

We've have some good strikers in the past, yet Depay is 4 goals away from the all time record (47 now, needs 51). God knows how.

Edited 2 hours ago by surf

[YugoB]

Just now, surf said:

We're have some good strikers in the past, yet Depay is 4 goals away from the all time record (47 now, needs 51). God knows how.

Probably because they have had no decent striker in the last 10 years, if not more. 

[surf]

3 minutes ago, YugoB said:

Probably because they have had no decent striker in the last 10 years, if not more. 

van Persie & Robben were knocking in goals in the 2014 WC, but yeah, that's probably the last time we had good forwards. 

[Leo No.8]

2 hours ago, YugoB said:

You are right they aren't, but there is a metric on the PL's website ''big chances'' created that takes that into account

He's 23 years old, proven in one of the toughest league's in the world, on the back of a good season, you aren't going to find many players available for cheap with those things taken into account.

IF we have the money, I'm not arsed how much we spend on any individual player that's good and the manager/club wants. You sign him now and you're sorted for the next 6/7 years in the position.

There aren't many cheap fullbacks to begin with that are available 

And he’s actually only 21, not 22 till November.