Football rules changes

[New York Red]

On Talksport this morning, they were debating a rule change to introduce orange cards. This would be in essence a 10 minute sin-bin for the player at which point the incident could be reviewed by an official in which time if was deemed to be a red-card, he was off. It was basically to make sure that people weren't sent off erroneously. I didn't think it was such a bad idea but I'm against rule changes in general. I just think better officiating is better. But it was an interesting idea.

 

Then it got me thinking. I can remember an effort in the 70's to just make offside in the final 18 yards of the pitch which obviously wasn't adopted permanently. Years again there was apparently a requirement for three players to be between the ball and the goal and not two like it is today. In line with it was adopted a while back rather than behind the ball. There's also the goal line technology thing now which I think is universally considered a success.

 

What about other ideas? Given that players (goalkeepers in particular) were so much smaller when the rules were written, wouldn't it be logical to have proportionately bigger goals?

[The Hitman]

Bigger goals?

You've been in America too long mate.

 

Goalies may have got bigger, slightly, but the balls are much lighter, easier to strike and move about far more in the air than they used to be.

 

I'd love to see some of these lads with the old footballs. Like the ones that Puskas and Charlton used to leather about, if you'll excuse the pun.

Similarly, I would've loved to see those guys with a new football.

 

In my opinion the current set of rules are fine. Goal-line technology and that's about it.

Financial fair play should be better enforced, but as far as the basic rules of the game go, I think they're fine as they are.

 

Just Talksport looking for content.

[Rory Fitzgerald]

I'm all for rule changes once they are sensible.

 

Offside and pass back rules are 2 introduced in 90s that made the game better. 3pts for a win too, red card for a professional foul.

 

I've also no problem with some sort of sin bin e.g. 2 on 1 situation but a recovering player pulls back the man in possession. Yellow card and free kick is an advantage to the defending team, not the attacking one........however it's a foul that depends on a refs interpretation of a situation.

[Stevie H]

What about other ideas? Given that players (goalkeepers in particular) were so much smaller when the rules were written, wouldn't it be logical to have proportionately bigger goals?

 

they talked about implementing that for the 1994 world cup. they also debated splitting the match into four quarters instead of two halves. thankfully both were laughed out of town.

 

also, william 'fatty' foulke.

[Hassony]

I'd like to see video technology used for offside decisions

[Cobs]

A challenge system / video technology. Each manager can challenge 2 referees/linos decisions per game. Gets it right, keeps his challenge.

 

Works well in other sports

[Nerik]

Goal size was increased in the early 90s. 

I think most of the present rules are great, just that the game is too fast to be judged consistently enough with the current officials set up. More use of video technology is needed. The challenge system sounds good.I'd also introduce red cards for players who dive or fake injury in an effort to get someone else sent off. 

[Maldini]

Advantage should last as long as it does in rugby

[Rory Fitzgerald]

Advantage should last as long as it does in rugby

 

5 seconds maybe ? I wouldn't like it too long.

[Hassony]

4th of 5th official should be able to tell the ref straight away about off the balls incidents, so the player can be booked/sent off straight away (like in Zidane's case)

 

Not fair (to the opposing team) that the player can go on to score an important goal and then get banned for three games afterwards

[Hightown Phil]

Advantage should last as long as it does in rugby

 

Football is way too fluid for that. 

[Murphman]

On Talksport this morning, they were debating a rule change to introduce orange cards. This would be in essence a 10 minute sin-bin for the player at which point the incident could be reviewed by an official in which time if was deemed to be a red-card, he was off. It was basically to make sure that people weren't sent off erroneously. I didn't think it was such a bad idea but I'm against rule changes in general. I just think better officiating is better. But it was an interesting idea.

 

Then it got me thinking. I can remember an effort in the 70's to just make offside in the final 18 yards of the pitch which obviously wasn't adopted permanently. Years again there was apparently a requirement for three players to be between the ball and the goal and not two like it is today. In line with it was adopted a while back rather than behind the ball. There's also the goal line technology thing now which I think is universally considered a success.

 

What about other ideas? Given that players (goalkeepers in particular) were so much smaller when the rules were written, wouldn't it be logical to have proportionately bigger goals?

 

 

The change in the offside law from 3 to 2 players coincided with Dixie Dean scoring his famous 60 goals the following season, the impact was enormous until people adjusted (and feck off Jonesy, no I don't remember it)

[growler]

Average game runs at 35 mins a half. Run the clock to that and stop it for injuries, throw in etc.

 

Also, when a player goes down and then doesn't move, only to come straight back on - need a rule to stop that.

 

And one I liked was instead of half pitch make it thirds and you can't be off side in middle 3rd.

Edited February 3, 2017 by growler

[downunder]

With it being so easy to get a yellow card, I think we should have 3 yellows before a red, instead of 2.

[Rory Fitzgerald]

With it being so easy to get a yellow card, I think we should have 3 yellows before a red, instead of 2.

 

Wouldn't support that one to be honest, gives too much scope for persistent fouling and/or a freebie for the first big tackle.

[Begbie]

A challenge system / video technology. Each manager can challenge 2 referees/linos decisions per game. Gets it right, keeps his challenge.

 

Works well in other sports

 

It really is as easy as this

[cymrococh]

Wouldn't support that one to be honest, gives too much scope for persistent fouling and/or a freebie for the first big tackle.

Absolutely, massive scope for teams to share the yellows around.

[Cobs]

Absolutely, massive scope for teams to share the yellows around.

Imagine a Pulis/Allardyce/Hughes team under those rules !!

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

whatever rules (laws) are changed or introduced need to make officiating easier not more complicated. The more laws you have the more scope for error there is.

 

I preferred the amount of interpretation refs had in the 70s. 

 

Watched a re-run of the 74 FACF. We had a goal disallowed. There was no replay so I don't know whether it was offside or not; certainly didn't look it. But the players didn't moan, just got on with it.

 

Don't know why they ditched the 10yd rule for moaning at a ref on a FK

[Gethin]

Don't know why they ditched the 10yd rule for moaning at a ref on a FK

 

Apparently it was felt that it was only rugby playing nations that understood that one so they binned it off.

 

Isn't one of the proposed new laws that only the captain can query decisions with the ref?

 

They've got to do something about the players interact with the officials though - it really is s*** the way getting in the ref's face is tolerated in football.

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

Jesus, I know players aren't generally that bright but it's not difficult to grasp.

 

And yeah I agree. As a kid I was terrified of the ref even looking my way. Now you see all kinds of aggro at lads n dads footy. 

 

I've refereed and it's a s*** job

[Cobs]

The 10 yard rule in football was s***

[Maldini]

Football is way too fluid for that.

How so? Even if it's only 5/10 seconds rather than the instant it is now the aggrieved team should get something from a foul rather than just playing on when their player has been impeded or has lost balance/momentum.

[kop205]

Goal size was increased in the early 90s. 

 

 

Yer wha? The 1890s maybe?

 

Anyway, keepers may be bigger (no idea) but the ball flies about a million times faster.

[Hassony]

Yer wha? The 1890s maybe?

 

Anyway, keepers may be bigger (no idea) but the ball flies about a million times faster.

Didn't they trial bigger goals once in the Preseason Ajax tournament? Think we lost 5-0 with David James in goal