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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-38140981

 

awful this. On way back from their equivalent of a UEFA Cup game. Looks like most of the team have perished

Actually, they were due to play the first leg of the final but they never made it that far. :(

 

Only three players and two journalists survived the crash. Brazil is in shock and the return leg of the Copa do Brasil final has been postponed. Awful, awful mood in here, obviously! :(

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This is just awful.

 

One of their players missed the flight because of injury too.

 

An injury which sidelined Chapecoence player Alejandro Martinuccio from the ill fated trip to Medellin, saved his life, AP reports.

Speaking to Argentina’s La Red radio the winger said: “I was saved because I got injured.”

“I feel profound sadness,” he said. “The only thing I can ask is prayers for the companions who were on the flight.”

The 28-year-old has played for Spain’s Villarreal, Penarol of Uruguay and Brazilian clubs Coritiba, Ponte Preta, Cruzeiro and Fluminense.

 

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Awful news this. Devastating for families of all involved first. Then devastating for team supporters of the team.

 

RIP

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Desperately sad and tragic. Really feel for the families, friends and fans :(

 

RIP to all the deceased and thoughts are with the families and the survivors.

 

YNWA

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Today we wake up with a new challenge,


Because life has given us a different mission.


Our warriors became heroes and eternalised their lives in a battle that made the world stop.



Today’s game does not have a final whistle, together we are more than eleven.


O glorious green that expands


Among the states you are always a splendor


In the most difficult joys and times


My hurricane, you’re always a winner.


 



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Cristiano Ronaldo has donated €3million to the fund set up.

 

 

wow, fair play. pretty amazing gesture.

 

Not true apparently.

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Sounds like it might have been an air traffic control error, the trip was at the limit of that plane's range and they had requested to land but the controllers prioritised another plane. They had been circling for a while when they ran out of fuel. The fact they were out of fuel is probably what saved the survivors as there was no fuel explosion on impact.

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Too early to say that they ran out of fuel. No pilot would remain in the hold knowing he would run out of fuel before commencing an approach. No controllers would order an aircraft running out of fuel to remain in the hold. It goes against all fuel planning and common sense regulations for pilots and ATC. If it indeed ran out of fuel there was some miscalculation of sorts for some reason or other and one has to see whether a fuel emergency (which is more than just requesting a priority landing) was declared. 

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Too early to say that they ran out of fuel. No pilot would remain in the hold knowing he would run out of fuel before commencing an approach. No controllers would order an aircraft running out of fuel to remain in the hold. It goes against all fuel planning and common sense regulations for pilots and ATC. If it indeed ran out of fuel there was some miscalculation of sorts for some reason or other and one has to see whether a fuel emergency (which is more than just requesting a priority landing) was declared. 

 

Reports this morning were saying that another plane reported a fuel emergency and so was prioritised and that the one that crashed had actually flown beyond its designed-for maximum distance anyway.

 

Will all come out in time I suppose. Focus now should just be on the victims, families and survivors.

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Yes I've read that. In that case it would show that the mistake would have majorly been a planning one with the plane getting at destination with less than safe fuel. The sequence of events that then led to it running out of fuel is what one then needs to find out. Also was their running out of fuel declared to air traffic control at the appropriate time (you usually declare a fuel emergency when you know you will land with less than a certain amount of fuel), was it noticed by the pilots or were they tackling some other malfunction etc? So many variables. 

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As a pilot Nerik will you be going to see Miracle on the Hudson? Some job that guy did - I was reading about it the other day. Didn't realise it was only 3 minutes from the bird strike taking out both engines to landing on the water.

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