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The Player of the Season Winner 2015/6 - as voted by you!


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ynwa.tv
scouser-tommy.com
est1892.co.uk
sixcrazyminutes.com
liverpoolway.co.uk
irishkop.com
bOOTroom.org
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The Magnificient 7 websites that voted week-in and week-out.
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Your winner is:

Lucus Leiva!!
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Previous winners were:
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2005 Jamie Carragher
2006 Steven Gerrard
2007 Dirk Kuyt
2008 Javier Mascherano
2009 Xabi Alonso
2010 Javier Mascherano
2011 Steven Gerrard
2012 Luis Suarez
2013 Luis Suarez
2014 Luis Suarez
2015 Philippe Coutinho
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Thoughts?
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1. Firstly, Lucas' win is a shock as it is generally perceived that Firmino, Coutinho or Can were better performers but they were patchy. Mr Consistent has nicked the title.
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2. The top 10 places were separated by only 13 points. I think this suggests that now Suarez and Sterling have left, we can hope that all-round team performances may be the norm. Certainly under Klopp we can expect better and more consistent performances...fewer standout players, like Luis.
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3. Signings from the Rodgers/committee era - Firmino, Lallana and Can have all done well.
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4. The much maligned keeper didn't have as bad a season as we think. 20 clean sheets, but certainly at fault on occasion. I do feel though that he will drop to the bench or leave.
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5. Coutinho was average. So was Hendo, but perhaps the injury was the cause of that. Joe Allen was much better this year.
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6. Defenders: Sakho and Lovren were the best two. However, look at the table and see how consistent Clyne has been - 7 2nd places and 7 3rd places. without winning a MOM award he showed a good level for us; sadly not matched by Moreno (who did win a MOM award!)
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7. Kids: Ings will be like a new signing, as will Gomez. I am excited by Ojo, Stewart and Brannagan. Ward is also one to watch for 2018.
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Please add your thoughts to this thread.
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At this time, I don't know whether I will continue with this another season or not. I say to my wife each year that this will be my last but I carry on.
I am feeling that this may at last be the case though. If so, thanks for participating and hope you have enjoyed it.
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Final Table:

1. Lucas...............5MOM..........52nd............ 33rd.............................................. .....43 points
2. Firmino.............6MOM..........32nd............ 13rd.............................................. .....40 points
3. Lallana.............5MOM..........42nd..... .. ..33rd............................................ ........40 points
4. Can..................3MOM..........52nd........... .83rd............................................. ......38 points
5. Mignolet............5MOM.................... .........23rd.............20CSB................... .......37 points
6. Coutinho...........4MOM..........32nd...........53 rd................................................ ...34 points
7. Lovren..............4MOM..........42nd..... .....23rd......................................... ...........34 points
8. Sakho...............3MOM..........52nd............ 43rd.............................................. .....34 points
9. Allen.................4MOM.........32nd........... .23rd............................................. .......31 points
10.Milner...............3MOM..........42nd.... ..... .33rd............................................. ......30 points
11.Clyne....................................72nd.. ..... ....73rd.......................................... .........28 points
12.Origi.................3MOM..........22nd....... .....33rd......................................... ...........24 points
13.Sturridge..........3MOM....................... ... ..43rd............................................ .......19 points
14.Benteke............3MOM..........12nd.......... ..... .................................................. ....18 points
15.Henderson........2MOM.........22nd............. .................................................. ........16 points
16.Ibe.....................2MOM.........22nd...... .................................................. ..............16 points
17.Toure................1MOM.........22nd......... ...43rd........................................... ........15 points
18.Ings..................1MOM..........22nd....... .....33rd......................................... ..... .. .14 points
19.Smith................2MOM...................... .................................................. ................10 points
20.Brannagan.......1MOM.........12nd...........13r d................................................. .....9 points
21.Stewart................................32nd.... .................................................. ..................9 points
22.Skrtel...............1MOM..................... ... ...43rd........................................... ..........9 points
23.Bogdan................................22nd..... .. ..........................1CSB.................... ........6.5 points
24.Moreno............1MOM......................... ....13rd.......................................... . .........6 points
25.Ward................1MOM....................... .................................................. ...............5 points
26.Ojo......................................12nd.. ..........13rd.................................... ..................4 points
27.Teixeira................................12nd... ........13rd...................................... ...............4 points
28.Gomez................................12nd...... . .................................................. .............3 points
29.Rossiter....................................... ...........13rd................................... ...................1 point

Edited by Morse
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Farcical that the WBA game has won this for Lucas.

 

Playing the second string for league games as we put all our eggs in the EL basket has fecked this up.

 

Firmino's been robbed, imo.

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If I'd have been told a player had won it for being steady I'd have thought Clyne not Lucas. Our Lucas is very popular and rightly so, but he wasn't player of the season.

 

I hope Barnesy tells him about it though he'll be made up!

 

I think how close the voting is demonstrates that we have lots of 'good' players and no world class ones.

 

Thanks for all your efforts as always Morse!

Edited by Leo No.8
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Lucas should have been nowhere near winning. How odd.

 

Firmino or Milner deserved to win, although the table reflects a poor season in the league really, and no one was outstanding

 

well done for doing it though Morse

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Lovren for me. Although that says more about the season we had than him.

 

I was incredulous that no-one had managed to clearly overtake Lucas despite him being out of the team for so long.

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Reckon that what played out here is that the games in which Lucas played there was context to his being there and he had good games under that spotlight that led to a lot of plaudits. So, when he put in a shift at centre back and played well it became a MOTM performance rather than a solid CB performance. When he played with lesser teammates he was often the standout player. 

 

Lucas winning this is in keeping with how weird this season has been. He is quality and has had moments when he really did shine, but not consistently quality enough to actually get us over the line in any of our goals for the season. 

 

cheers for all the work on this. It's probably as true a MOTM award as you can get as it is a cumulative snapshot of each particular game rather than a 'sense' of the overall season. Strange result perhaps, but fair.. 

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This exercise is not the best way of deciding on Player Of The Season. Lucas has been one of our best three players on the pitch more than any other player this season, but it does not take into consideration his overall performance game in, game out. Firmino could have been our 4th best player for 90% of the other games and it is not registered in this method. Lucas could have been our worst player on the field in those games. 

 

The best way of doing it, but which would take Morse a lot of time to calculate, would be to give each player a rating for each game and then see who has the highest average.

 

Anyway the list is very interesting and thanks for your work and dedication Morse. 

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Amazing scenes.

This exercise is not the best way of deciding on Player Of The Season. Lucas has been one of our best three players on the pitch more than any other player this season, but it does not take into consideration his overall performance game in, game out. Firmino could have been our 4th best player for 90% of the other games and it is not registered in this method. Lucas could have been our worst player on the field in those games. 

 

The best way of doing it, but which would take Morse a lot of time to calculate, would be to give each player a rating for each game and then see who has the highest average.

 

Anyway the list is very interesting and thanks for your work and dedication Morse.

It's pretty clear to me that the POTY would come from

 

Clyne

Lovren

Coutinho

Can

Firmino

 

And my top 3 would be Can/Lovren then PC.

 

I guess as you say, the scoring system doesnt help a player like Milner for instance.

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Most times that Lucas played, he played well, but he didn't play often enough to be player of the season.  He's not the player he used to be though and Can has came on in leaps and bounds.

 

If I had to pick our best five, I'd pick Milner, Clyne, Firmino, Can and Coutinho in roughly that order.

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But points were allocated after every match, no? So no matter how many matches he played, lads like us across multiple websites picked mom's after those games.

 

It's not the only way of picking a player of the season, but it IS definitely a way of picking a player of the match immediately after that match has finished and is fresh in the memory.

 

So, the lad who won most mom's (or second or third) wins the 'title' overall, thus is it not deserved?

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Well done on putting the effort in, Morse.

 

But doesn't the result tell you that you've wasted so many hours of your life??

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