Liverpool v Newcastle

[David Hodgson]

It's on! The race for 5th starts here. Let's smash these !

 

Oh...

 

Team:

 

Ward

 

Randall

Skrtel

Toure

Smith

 

Stewart

Allen

 

Ibe

Ojo

Brannagan

 

Firmino

[Cam]

Play Lucas up front, tell him to shoot on sight.

[McBain]

No favours for Rafa. Smash em 1-0

[Dan]

A reserve team might find it tough against Newcastle. They are s***e but they've got something to play for - unlike Stoke and Bournemouth.

[Gethin]

Flanno treated like a dog

[Benitez]

A reserve team might find it tough against Newcastle. They are s**** but they've got something to play for - unlike Stoke and Bournemouth.

 

 

they played well v's Man City, could have, maybe should have won. They worked their arses off, no surprise there considering. Despite league position difference, they will be miles better than Everton now, and will actually show fight. 

 

Need to not have Studge anywhere near this game.

 

But I'd be surprised if we go quite as wholesale changes as v's Bournemouth,but hey, who knows!

 

But Stewart, Ojo, Ibe, Toure defo to start, maybe Randall and Smith too.

 

I hope Skrtel doesn't start, don't need that nervousness IF our inexperienced full backs start. 

[Case]

Ward

Flanno Ilori Skrtel Smith

Stewart © Chirivella

Ibe Texiera Ojo

Sinclair

Edited April 21, 2016 by Case

[Chili Palmer]

Fattist lad on the forum

 

Smallest lad on the forum, Tallest lad on the forum, Toughest lad on the forum, Snidey-est lad on the forum

 

Allen, Fittest lad on the forum

 

Ibe, Most skilful lad on the forum, Quickest lad on the forum

 

Hassony

 

Subs: whoever is left from the forum.

[Falconhoof]

its not nice to be Fattist

[realtarragona]

But I'd be surprised if we go quite as wholesale changes as v's Bournemouth,but hey, who knows!

 

But Stewart, Ojo, Ibe, Toure defo to start, maybe Randall and Smith too.

 

I hope Skrtel doesn't start, don't need that nervousness IF our inexperienced full backs start.

There's an extra day between Newcastle and Villarreal so he might go a little stronger than Bournemouth. Still expecting at least 6+ changes though.

[fred]

I think it's either 10is or 2ish, depending on whether Klopp wants to give the team for Villareal a game on Saturday to keep them sharp.

[Bigal]

Ward

 

Flanno Toure Lucas Smith

 

Stewart Allen

 

Firmino Ojo Ibe

 

Sturridge

[Cam]

Sturridge needs wrapping in cotton wool.

 

Goalie

Randall Skrtel Toure Smith

Stewart Lucas

Ibe Lallana Ojo

Firmino

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

THREE PM!! ON A SATURDAY???

 

WHAT IS THIS MADNESS

[Cam]

Doesn't matter who we put out, we're gonna score four.

 

Just don't concede five and we'll be okay.

[Conrad]

Sturridge needs wrapping in cotton wool.

 

Goalie

Randall Skrtel Toure Smith

Stewart Lucas

Ibe Lallana Ojo

Firmino

no chance Lallana starts this. Other than that, probably close to the XI.

 

Allen may well start

[Cam]

no chance Lallana starts this. Other than that, probably close to the XI.

 

Allen may well start

After last night Lallana probably does need a rest - he ran marathons.

[Conrad]

yeah, he's integral to thursday's plans I'd have thought

[RedMersey]

Sturridge needs wrapping in cotton wool.

 

Goalie

Randall Skrtel Toure Smith

Stewart Lucas

Ibe Lallana Ojo

Firmino

Agree re Sturridge but Skrtel should be nowhere near this. Allen for Skrtel, Lucas dropping into defence. 

[Sion]

The game in between (Swansea?) is the game to rest players. They'll have 4 days off between games this week. Start a strong side, get ahead and sub off key players at 60mins

[Hassony]

they played well v's Man City, could have, maybe should have won. They worked their arses off, no surprise there considering. Despite league position difference, they will be miles better than Everton now, and will actually show fight.

 

Need to not have Studge anywhere near this game.

 

But I'd be surprised if we go quite as wholesale changes as v's Bournemouth,but hey, who knows!

 

But Stewart, Ojo, Ibe, Toure defo to start, maybe Randall and Smith too.

 

I hope Skrtel doesn't start, don't need that nervousness IF our inexperienced full backs start.

 

Yawn

[Benitez]

Yawn

 

 

 What's your problem, you weirdo

Edited April 21, 2016 by Benitez

[Big Red Machine]

Can't see Lucas starting this at all. He's only just back from injury.

[Cunny]

Big Kev and Wee Joe in central midfield for me.

[Will]

Double Agents

           

In advance of our second meeting of the season on Saturday, YNWA looks at the careers of some of the many who have represented both Newcastle United and the reds.

           

El Boss

Rafael Benítez arrived from Valencia in June 2004 and took charge of the reds on 350 occasions, winning 194 times and leading us to the European Cup, FA Cup, UEFA Super Cup and FA Community Shield as well as three other finals. He left the club “by mutual consent” in June 2010. He took over as Newcastle boss last month, so far leading them to one victory and two draws in six games.

           

Other current double agents

James Milner arrived on a free transfer from Manchester City in July, so far scoring seven times in forty games, many as captain in the absence of Jordan Henderson through injury. He left Leeds United to join Newcastle for an eventual £5m in July 2004, moving on to Aston Villa for £12m in August 2008 after eleven strikes in 136 games. Jonjo Shelvey signed from Charlton Athletic for £1.7m in May 2010, having become their youngest ever player. He struck seven times in 69 senior appearances, moving on to Swansea City for an initial £5m in July 2013. He then joined the Geordies for £12m last January, so far playing twelve times without scoring.

           

Left-back José Enrique signed from Newcastle United for £5.5m in August 2011, so far netting twice in 99 appearances for the reds, although he has only played three times since January 2015. He had moved to St. James’ Park from Villarreal for £6.3m four years earlier, notching just once in 129 outings as they were relegated and then returned to the Premiership as champions. Dave Watson was appointed Under-18’s Coach at Newcastle in November 2011. He never broke through into the reds first team as a centre-half, going on to far greater success with Norwich City and across Stanley Park.

           

Peter Beardsley was appointed Reserve Team Manager at Newcastle in July 2010, taking temporary charge of the first team when Chris Hughton was sacked five months later. He changed roles in October 2011 to become Football Development Manager. He arrived at Anfield from St. James’ Park for a British record £1.9m fee in July 1987, winning two League titles, an FA Cup and two FA Charity Shields, scoring 59 times in 175 games. He was controversially sold by Graeme Souness to Everton for £1m in August 1991. He had originally been released as a teenager by the Toon, later joining them from Vancouver Whitecaps for £150,000 in September 1983, striking 61 times in 164 games, then netting another 56 goals in 157 outings after returning from Everton for a £1.4m fee in July 1993.

           

The Kaiser

Dietmar Hamann was signed for Newcastle by Kenny Dalglish for £5.25m in August 1998, although he only stayed on Tyneside for one season before moving to Anfield for £8m. He featured in their FA Cup Final defeat and thirty other games, and made 283 reds appearances, netting just eleven times as he helped us to claim the European Cup, UEFA Cup, two FA Cups, two UEFA Super Cups, two League Cups and the FA Charity Shield. He left Anfield for Manchester City after a farcical transfer to Bolton Wanderers in July 2006.

           

The management

Kevin Keegan took over in the St. James’ Park hot-seat for the second time in January 2008, but only stayed for eight months, winning just six out of his 21 games. He led them to the Second Division title and amassed a host of ex-reds in the five years of his first spell as Manager on Tyneside in the mid-1990’s, after an earlier period as a player. Terry McDermott and Mark Lawrenson joined his coaching staff, while ex-reds to feature in his Newcastle teams included Peter Beardsley, Mike Hooper and Barry Venison. Kenny Dalglish took over from Keegan in January 1997, leading them to second place that season and then thirteenth place and the FA Cup Final in his one full season in charge. He was sacked just two unbeaten games into the following season.

           

Graeme Souness took over at St. James’ Park in September 2004, following the sacking of Sir Bobby Robson. He collected his usual backroom staff around him, including fellow ex-reds Dean Saunders and Phil Boersma, as well as former Magpie Terry McDermott. Souness was sacked as Toon boss in February 2006, after 36 wins in 83 games. Boersma struck thirty times in 120 reds games, although he struggled to oust both Kevin Keegan and John Toshack. Saunders scored 25 times in 61 reds outings after his British record £2.9m signing from Derby County. He was sold by Souness after only fourteen months at Anfield, moving on to Aston Villa for £2.3m. Steve Clarke coached under Ruud Gullit at Newcastle United, taking over as Caretaker Manager after the Dutchman’s departure in August 1999, although he was only charge for one game, a 5-1 defeat at Manchester United. He was appointed as a first-team coach at Anfield by Kenny Dalglish in January 2011, moving on in June 2012.

           

Right-half Gordon Milne played 282 times for us after signing for a club record £16,000 from Preston North End in August 1960, netting eighteen times and winning the League title twice, as well as the Second Division championship before joining Blackpool in May 1967. After a distinguished management career in England, Japan and Turkey he became Newcastle’s Director of Football, remaining there until Souness’s arrival. Centre-half Keith Burkinshaw only made one senior reds appearance, in April 1955. After his playing career ended he spent some time as Assistant Coach at St. James’ Park in the 1970’s. Richard Money became Academy Director for Newcastle in June 2008, but moved back into management with Conference National side Luton Town in October 2009. The defender spent two years at Anfield after signing from Fulham for £50,000 in May 1980, but was unable to displace either Alan Kennedy or Phil Neal at full-back, making only seventeen first-team appearances before joining Luton Town in April 1982.

           

Up front

Andy Carroll signed from Newcastle United for a club record £35m on transfer deadline day in January 2011 after 33 goals in 91 games for his boyhood club, including one in their 3-1 defeat of the reds at St. James’ Park in December 2010. He struck eleven times in 58 reds games, moving to West Ham United for their club record £15.5m fee in June 2013 after spending the previous season on loan at Upton Park. Ian Rush was brought to Newcastle by King Kenny in August 1997, netting twice in fourteen appearances. John Barnes arrived from Anfield in the same week, bagging seven goals in 41 games before moving on to Charlton Athletic. Dalglish also signed his son Paul from Anfield in November of the same year. He struck twice in thirteen first-team appearances while at St. James’ Park. Albert Stubbins signed for the reds from Newcastle for £12,500 in September 1946 after six goals in thirty games, the record fee that they had received to date, as well as the then record British transfer. 28 goals in his first season helped us to the League title, and he went on to bag a total of 83 goals in 178 games while at Anfield. Jimmy Stott was top scorer in our first season in the Football League, his only one at Anfield. He bagged fourteen goals in seventeen reds games after signing from Middlesbrough in August 1893, and joined Newcastle after moving to Grimsby Town from Anfield in June 1894.

           

Michael Owen struck 158 times in 297 games for the reds, and moved on to Real Madrid in August 2004 for £8m after seven years’ great service to the reds. He had helped us to claim the UEFA Cup, FA Cup, UEFA Super Cup, League Cup and FA Charity Shield. He joined Newcastle United for £17m after a year in Spain and bagged thirty goals in 76 games for the Toon, having again suffered with a spate of injuries, moving to Manchester United on a free transfer in July 2009. Craig Bellamy arrived from Blackburn Rovers for £6m in June 2006 and struck nine times in 42 reds games, helping us to claim the FA Community Shield before moving to West Ham United for £7.5m in July 2007. He had signed for Newcastle from Coventry City for £6m in June 2001, grabbing 43 goals in 128 games before moving to Blackburn Rovers for £5m in July 2005, after a loan spell with Celtic. He returned to L4 on a free transfer from Manchester City in August 2011, netting nine times in 37 games in this second spell and helping us to claim the Carling Cup before re-joining Cardiff City for free in August 2012.

           

Howard Gayle became the first black player to appear for our first-team in modern times, but only made five senior appearances, netting once. He had a short loan spell with the Geordies, bagging two goals in eight League games. Sunderland-born inside-forward Arthur Metcalf signed from United for £150 in May 1912 and netted 28 times in 63 reds games, playing in every position on the park. Scottish winger John McDonald made 81 reds appearances after signing from Rangers in May 1909, scoring just four times. He moved on to St. James’ Park after three years at Anfield. Newcastle-born James Clark signed from his hometown club for £3,000 in January 1928 and bagged eleven goals in 42 games, before moving into the amateur game in July 1931 with North Shields.

           

At the back

Alan Kennedy was on the losing side in the 1974 FA Cup Final, with fellow future red Terry McDermott. Barney Rubble played nearly two hundred games for the Geordies before moving to L4 in August 1978 for £330,000, a British record for a full-back. He is best remembered for his winning strikes in two European Cup Finals, but also won five League titles, four League Cups and three FA Charity Shields, making 359 appearances and notching twenty times in his seven years at Anfield.

           

Scottish centre-half Norman Low signed from Newcastle in October 1933, making only thirteen first-team appearances before joining Newport County in November 1936. David Davidson was another Scottish centre-half who played for both sides. He joined the reds from Forfar Athletic in July 1928, going on to score twice in his 62 reds appearances. He moved on to Newcastle United in January 1930.

           

Wartime guests

Reds Jack Balmer, Allenby Chilton, Harry Eastham, Willie Fagan, Rob Glassey, Bill Kinghorn, Jimmy McInnes and Phil Taylor all guested for Newcastle United during the Second World War. Balmer scored 110 goals in 309 reds games, many alongside fellow double agent Albert Stubbins, becoming our first player to net hat-tricks in three consecutive games. Right-half Eastham struck four times in 68 reds outings while Scottish left-half McInnes signed from Third Lanark for £5,500 in March 1938 and netted once in 48 reds appearances, and was the club’s Secretary between 1955 and 1965, before hanging himself above the Archway Stile, the old turnstile between the Kop and Kemlyn Road stands, four days after our first ever FA Cup Final win. Rob Glassey signed from Horden Colliery Welfare during the 1933/34 season and netted four goals in nine outings before moving to Stoke City in November 1936.

           

Fagan signed from Preston North End for £8,000 in October 1937, netting 57 goals in 182 reds games that helped fire us to the League title in 1947 and the FA Cup Final three years later, before moving to Belfast Distillery in January 1952. Fellow Scottish forward Kinghorn bagged four goals in nineteen reds games after signing from Queens Park in April 1938. Taylor played 343 times at right-half, scoring 32 goals and winning one League title, and captaining the side. He became our Manager in May 1956, staying in the job for just over three years, but has the unhappy distinction of being the only reds boss never to manage the side in the top flight.

           

Other double agents

Inside-left Ronald ‘Wee’ Orr netted 39 times in 112 reds games, after joining from the Magpies for £350 in April 1908, including the only goal of the game at St. James’ Park in April 1909 to keep the reds in the top flight. Inside-forward Jimmy Harrower signed from Hibernian for £11,000 in January 1958 and bagged 22 goals in 105 reds games, before joining Newcastle United for £15,000 in March 1961. Robert Blanthorne arrived at Anfield from Birkenhead in November 1905, but only made two appearances, netting once, before joining Grimsby Town. He then moved on to Newcastle but sadly broke his leg in the opening game of the 1908/09 season and was never as good a player again.

           

Kevin Sheedy never made it at Anfield, and spent two seasons with the Geordies after leaving Everton on a free transfer in 1992, bagging four goals in 37 League outings. Danny Guthrie was sold to the Geordies for £2.5m in July 2008 after just seven reds games, initially establishing himself with them, turning out on 104 occasions, netting nine times, before being released in June 2012. He signed on for Reading later that month.