Crystal Palace (Away) Sunday 6th March 1:30pm KO

[RafaShanks]

As there is no match thread, I thought I'd start it.

 

I hate Pardew and Palace with a passion. Small time f***ers the both of them.

 

Unlikely that Klopp will go with the same team on Wednesday. Really think Origi offers us presence up front that either Benteke or Sturridge don't provide. As long as Moreno isn't in the first team, I'm happy.

 

Lets smash these f***ers and push them closer to the relegation zone. We owe them big time.

[Conrad]

Sturridge is a far better option up front and should start, play 60 get him ready for the mancs

[Dan]

Far better in what sense? He's a better player but is he more suited than Origi to play up top on his own?

[Cam]

----------------Goalie

Flanagan Toure Lovren Clyne

-------------Can Lucas

Lallana-------------------Coutinho

----------Sturridge Origi

[Conrad]

Far better in what sense? He's a better player but is he more suited than Origi to play up top on his own?

we are far better off having Sturridge up front as a goalscorer and creator of chances for himself. His movement is excellent. He needs to get his confidence and pace back - which he will, from playing.

[MarkD]

we are far better off having Sturridge up front as a goalscorer and creator of chances for himself. His movement is excellent. He needs to get his confidence and pace back - which he will, from playing.

Not doubting his technical ability, but he drops to deep and thus both closes the gap between the opposition defence and midfield and reduces the space for our "creators" to work. Origi stayed high against City and thus allowed our midfield to flood the space left by City.

[Barnesy_10]

Not sure if Lucas will be fit for it.

 

Hopefully is but got my doubts. 

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

1997 since we last won there

 

Let's give these c**** a right smashing

[realtarragona]

Not doubting his technical ability, but he drops to deep and thus both closes the gap between the opposition defence and midfield and reduces the space for our "creators" to work. Origi stayed high against City and thus allowed our midfield to flood the space left by City.

Let's not get carried away. If Sturridge is fit he starts. He scores goals and lots of them.

 

I wouldn't mind seeing both of them though at some point.

[muleskinner]

1997 since we last won there

 

Let's give these c**** a right smashing

we won in the league cup last season

[Nathan Explosion]

we won in the league cup last season

 

Doesn't count in Macca world - he assumes that everyone knows that he's referencing the specific competition (PL) so doesn't post that to save himself some time.

[Barnesy_10]

Lucas is out for 6 weeks

[Conrad]

f***.

[Cobs]

we won in the league cup last season

 

we also won there in 2000 in the League

 

v Wimbledon

[Tobes Rafa]

Lucas is out for 6 weeks

Somebody shoot that messenger

[RafaShanks]

we won in the league cup last season

 

FA cup wasn't it? One of the few games where Mario had an impact. Also scored the winner in the Spurs game that was after.

 

Doesn't count in Macca world - he assumes that everyone knows that he's referencing the specific competition (PL) so doesn't post that to save himself some time.

 

Ha.

Edited March 4, 2016 by RafaShanks

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

1997 since we last won there

 

IN THE LEAGUE

 

AGAINST PALACE

 

 

happier now?

[Leo No.8]

Mother's Day is going to infringe on my viewing of this game. Whose stupid idea was Mother's Day?

[Will]

Down Memory Lane

           

YNWA takes a look back at previous memorable away League meetings as we visit Crystal Palace for only the sixteenth time in the League on Sunday. We have an average record against them away from home, having won five, drawn five and been beaten five times.

           

Most recently

We lost 3-1 in November 2014, with Rickie Lambert opening the scoring with his first reds goal. Dwight Gayle equalised with the most recent of his four goals against us, with Joe Ledley and Mile Jedinak both on target late on to secure victory.

           

Joe Allen scored a club record 59th first-half goal in a season six months earlier, with Damien Delaney putting through his own net after the break. Two minutes later, Luis Suárez scored his 82nd and final reds goal, a club record fourteenth away goal of the season and joint all-Premier League record 31st goal in a campaign as we took a three-goal lead, reaching a new club record of 48 away League goals. This was an all-Premier League record 21st time in a season that we had scored three or more goals in a game. However, Delaney pulled one back with just eleven minutes remaining before Dwight Gayle nabbed a brace as the game ended 3-3 to deliver our League title hopes a near-decisive blow, although we went back to the top of the table with less than a week of the season to go. Victor Moses came off the bench for his 22nd and last reds game on loan from Chelsea.

           

John Welsh played his tenth and final reds game as we suffered yet another away League defeat in that season, 1-0 in April 2005, courtesy of an Andy Johnson strike. We won 3-0 in December 1997, thanks to goals from Steve McManaman, Michael Owen and Øyvind Leonhardsen.

           

A thumping win

We trounced the Eagles 6-1 in August 1994, with Jan Mølby converting a penalty before Steve McManaman bagged a brace and Robbie Fowler also got on the scoresheet in our season opener, with Ian Rush adding another two goals to his tally against the Eagles. As one end of the ground was being redeveloped, the crowd of 18,084 was the lowest ever for a first-team meeting between the clubs.

           

Rushie on target

Ian Rush netted as we drew 1-1 in March 1993, the latest League stalemate at Selhurst Park. The Welshman also netted in January 1990, with Peter Beardsley also scoring as we won 2-0. Rushie’s seven strikes against the Eagles are the most of any red.

           

Emlyn on the mark

Our first League trip to South London, and first meeting in more than three decades, ended in a 3-1 victory in August 1969, with Emlyn Hughes, Roger Hunt and Peter Thompson on target. Three years later, Crazy Horse struck again as we were held to a 1-1 draw. Ex-reds left-back Peter Wall broke his leg in this game. Ray Clemence played his hundredth League game for the reds.

           

Brucie’s milestone

Bruce Grobbelaar played his 400th League game for the reds as we lost 1-0 in March 1992

           

Steve’s bow

Gerry Queen struck the only goal of the game in January 1971 as the Eagles beat us for the first time at the sixth time of asking in all competitions. Midfielder Steve Arnold came off the bench for the first of his two senior reds appearances.

           

Another win

John Toshack netted the only goal of the game in August 1971.

[Will]

Double Agents

           

In advance of our second meeting of the season on Sunday, YNWA looks at the careers of some of those who have represented both Crystal Palace and the reds over the years.

           

Current double agents

Right-back Nathaniel Clyne signed from Southampton for £12.5m last July. He has so far notched twice in 39 outings. His pro career had begun with Palace, making his debut in October 2008. He won their Player of the Year award for 2010/11, netting once in 139 games before joining the Saints in July 2012 after his contract expired.

           

Martin Kelly has scored in just 48 outings for the Eagles since making a £2m switch in August 2014. He made his senior bow as a sub in our Champions League win at PSV Eindhoven in December 2008, and struck once in 62 reds games. Club doctor Zaf Iqbal joined the reds in the summer of 2010, quitting last January to return to London due to family illness. He took on the same role at Selhurst Park in July 2015.

           

At the back

Neil Ruddock wound his career down with Palace, arriving on a free transfer from West Ham United in July 2000, notching twice in 26 appearances in his one season there, before joining Roy Evans at Swindon Town in August 2001. He had played 152 times for the reds following his £2.5m capture from Tottenham Hotspur in July 1993, helping us to claim the Coca-Cola Cup in 1995 before moving on to Upton Park for £100,000 in July 1998.

           

Steve Staunton joined Palace on loan in November 2000 as his second spell at Anfield was drawing to a close, and so was there alongside Ruddock although the two never played together there. He made six appearances, scoring a 45-yard screamer in their home defeat of Tranmere Rovers, his final game, and was then released back to Aston Villa on a free transfer shortly afterwards. Stan arrived from Dundalk for £20,000 in September 1986, striking seven times in 148 reds appearances across two spells, helping us to our last League title in 1990, and the FA Cup a year earlier.

           

Left-back Peter Wall failed to score in 42 first-team appearances after signing from Wrexham in a deal that cost us £35,000 for him and full-back Stuart Mason in October 1966, but ‘Max’ had greater success with his next club, Crystal Palace, whom he joined in May 1970 for £30,000. He spent eight seasons at Selhurst Park, playing over 200 times for them with one of his rare goals coming at Anfield in January 1972, although we still won 4-1.

           

In the middle

Ray Houghton signed for Crystal Palace from Aston Villa for £300,000 on transfer deadline day in March 1995, bagging eight goals in 87 games for the Eagles, captaining them to the play-off final, and later returning as coach. He had arrived at Anfield from Oxford United for £825,000 in October 1987, and went on to strike 38 times in 202 reds games, helping us to two League titles, two FA Cups and the FA Charity Shield before moving to Aston Villa for £900,000 in July 1992.

           

Paul Stewart signed from Tottenham Hotspur for £2.3m in July 1992. His time at Anfield was a failure, scoring just three times in 42 appearances in nearly four seasons. He left for Sunderland on a free transfer in March 1996, having already spent a spell on loan with Crystal Palace two years earlier. He bagged three goals in eighteen games while at Selhurst Park as they won the First Division title.

           

Midfielder Tom Ince signed on as a youth player in 2008, being handed a squad number for the 2010/11 season. He made just one senior reds appearance, as a substitute in our humiliating Carling Cup defeat by Northampton Town, and moved on to Blackpool in August 2011. He joined Palace on loan from the Tangerines in January 2014, scoring once in eight games.

           

Not often on the wings

Victor Moses started out with Palace’s Academy, breaking through to the first team in November 2007. He scored eleven goals in 69 games before being sold to Wigan Athletic for £2.5m in January 2010 after the Eagles went into administration. He moved on to Chelsea in August 2012, spending the 2013/14 season on loan in L4. He netted on his debut at Swansea City in September 2013, scoring twice in total in 22 reds games.

           

Winger Jimmy Carter signed as a professional for Crystal Palace in November 1983. He never made the first team, a fate that also befell him at Queens Park Rangers, his next club. He later spent just nine months at Anfield after signing from Millwall for £800,000 in January 1991, making only eight appearances before leaving for Arsenal at a loss of £300,000. Australian winger Nicky Rizzo never made a senior reds appearance, and joined the Eagles on a free transfer in July 1998. Unfortunately, he suffered a knee ligament injury and was restricted to 41 games in his two years there, netting four times, before moving into lower League football in Italy.

           

Up front

Stan Collymore moved to Selhurst Park from Stafford Rangers for £100,000 in January 1991. He only struck twice in 25 games before joining Southend United in November 1992 for £150,000. He netted 35 times in 81 reds games after signing from Nottingham Forest for £8.5m in July 1995. He was offloaded to Aston Villa in February 2000 for £7m, where he again failed to fulfil his potential. Dick Allman signed from Plymouth Argyle in July 1908, but only played once before joining Wrexham in September 1909. He joined Palace in 1919 following the end of the First World War, failing to make their first team before moving on to Maidstone United a year later.

           

Vic Wright bagged 33 goals in 85 reds games after signing from Rotherham United in March 1934. He moved on to Plymouth Argyle in June 1937 and later guested for Palace during the war. Charlie Hewitt struck six times in sixteen reds matches after arriving in August 1907 from Tottenham Hotspur for £75. He moved on to West Bromwich Albion for the same fee in April 1908, and then to Spennymoor United, and Crystal Palace in May 1910. He bagged 41 goals in 162 games for Palace, including one on his debut in a 6-1 thumping of Plymouth Argyle.

           

Other double agents

England international left-half Tom Bromilow made 375 reds appearances after signing professional terms in 1919, having asked for a trial straight from the army. He scored eleven times while helping us to claim two League titles in successive seasons in the 1920’s. He went on to manage the Eagles in the 1935/36 season, as they finished sixth in the Third Division South before resigning over transfer issues. He returned as boss in January 1937, leading them to the runners-up spot before moving to Leicester City in the summer of 1939.

           

Outside-left Michael Griffin joined the reds from Darlington St Augustine’s in 1906, but only made four appearances before joining Palace in May 1909. He only stayed in South London for one season, playing 35 times. Bootle-born half-back Jimmy Hughes signed from Hertford Albion in 1904, moving to Palace along with Griffin after fourteen reds games. He was with the Eagles a lot longer, turning out 209 times for them, during which time they missed out on the Southern League Division One title on goal average in 1913/14.

           

Winger Mark Kennedy joined Crystal Palace on a free transfer from Wolverhampton Wanderers in July 2006. He turned out 48 times for the Eagles, grabbing just one goal before being released in May 2008. He had moved to Anfield from Millwall for £1.5m in March 1995. He only ever made 21 senior reds appearances, without getting on the scoresheet. He was sold to Wimbledon for £1.75m after three years at Anfield.

           

Besian Idrizaj signed from Linzer ASK for an initial £190,000 in August 2005, and made his first senior appearance in our friendly at Crewe Alexandra back in July 2006, netting a treble at Wrexham a year later, but failed to make the first-team squad, sadly dying aged just 22 in May 2010. He had spent the first half of the 2007/08 season on loan at Selhurst Park, only playing seven times without scoring.

           

Roy Hodgson was a moderately successful youth player with Crystal Palace, but was never able to break into their first team, moving into non-League football before launching his management career. Mike Kelly had been Roy Hodgson’s assistant at Fulham, following him to Anfield for his unsuccessful spell as reds boss. He had previously spent time as Assistant Manager to Dario Gradi at Selhurst Park in the early 1980’s, returning as goalkeeping coach in February 2004.

[Hassony]

Mother's Day is going to infringe on my viewing of this game. Whose stupid idea was Mother's Day?

Last year I had to give up my ticket for this fixture as it was on Valentine's day , went to watch bloody fifty shades instead

[autumn319]

----------------Goalie

Flanagan Toure Lovren Clyne

-------------Can Lucas

Lallana-------------------Coutinho

----------Sturridge Origi

remove Lucas.

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

I read

 

Palace haven't won a league match this year.

 

L7 this year, inc 5 on the bounce. 

Lost 7 of the last 9.

Scored 8 and conceded 21 since Christmas. 

Conceded 2 or more in 7 of the last 9. 

Only kept 5 home clean sheets all season. 

Haven't won a home game since the 12/12/15. 

 

 

That means only one thing...

[Red Yoda]

---------------------Mignolet

 

Flanno-------Toure--------Lovren------Clyne

 

Lallana----Henderson-----Can----Coutinho

 

----------------Origi--------Sturridge

[RafaShanks]

---------------------Mignolet

 

Flanno-------Toure--------Lovren------Clyne

 

Lallana----Henderson-----Can----Coutinho

 

----------------Origi--------Sturridge

 

As much as I wanna see us give Palace a good hiding, no way I'd play both up front with the Mancs next Thursday.