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Double Agents

 

In advance of the first derby of the season, YNWA looks at the careers of some of those players have represented both red and blue over the years.

 

Most recent double agent

Gary Ablett made 147 reds appearances, scoring just once, in only his second game. He helped us to two League titles, an FA Cup and FA Charity Shield before being sold to Everton by Graeme Souness for £750,000 in January 1992, with whom he won a second FA Cup. He struck six times in 156 games for the Blues, and later returned to coach their Under-18’s. He switched back across the park in the summer of 2006 to become our new Reserve Team Manager, leading the second string to a trio of trophies in his second campaign before leaving in May 2009. He sadly died in January 2012.

 

Directly across Stanley Park in recent times

Nick Barmby and Abel Xavier both arrived at Anfield directly from Everton, while Ablett and Peter Beardsley are the latest players to move the other way. Barmby signed for the reds in July 2000 for £6m, and bagged eight goals in 58 games. He had spent nearly four years at Goodison, scoring 24 times in 133 games. Xavier followed in January 2002 in a £800,000 deal. He netted twice in 21 reds games, of which we only lost three, scoring on his debut in a 6-0 thumping of Ipswich Town at Portman Road. He had played 48 times in seventeen months with the Blues, without hitting the target.

 

Beardsley was shipped across the park by Souness for £1m in August 1991. He had arrived from Newcastle United for a British record £1.9m fee four years before. In his time at Anfield he had won two League titles, an FA Cup and two FA Charity Shields, striking 59 times in 175 matches. He bagged 32 goals in 95 games while at Goodison.

 

More direct moves

Dave Hickson’s move to Anfield in November 1959 for £12,000 sparked unprecedented uproar, as he was the current Blues darling. He put almost 15,000 on the gate for the visit of League leaders Aston Villa, with one fan running on to kiss him on the cheek! He scored 38 times in 67 reds games, having grabbed 95 goals in 225 League games in his two spells with the Blues before joining the reds. Outside-left Alf Hanson signed from Everton in November 1931 and scored 52 goals in 177 reds games before we received a club record £7,500 fee from Chelsea in July 1938, although he returned to guest sixteen times for the reds during the war, bagging another three goals.

 

Winger John Morrissey bagged six goals in 37 games after signing professional terms in April 1957, joining Everton for £10,000 in September 1962, for whom he struck fifty times in 314 games, helping them to two League titles. Tosh Johnson won the First and Second Division titles and FA Cup with Everton after signing from Manchester City for £6,000 in March 1930, but was past his best by the time he arrived at Anfield in March 1934. He played 38 times for us, notching eight times before joining Darwen in August 1936. Outside-right Jimmy Payne left Anfield in April 1956 after 43 goals in 243 games, but only played six times for the Blues before retiring. Jack Balmer failed to make the grade at Goodison, unlike two of his uncles, but netted 110 times in 309 reds games after signing in May 1935, including trebles in three consecutive matches on our way to the League title in 1947. He also played in the FA Cup Final three years later.

 

Centre-half Jack Heydon played 67 times for the reds after leaving Goodison in December 1948 where he had been an amateur. Inside-forward Dick Forshaw struck 124 times in 288 reds games, winning two League titles, before surprisingly being sold to Everton for £3,750 in March 1927, becoming the first player to win the championship with both clubs. In February 1912, Irish winger Billy Lacey left Goodison for Anfield, with Scotsman Tom Gracie and Harry Uren moving the other way. Lacey won two League titles with the reds, scoring 29 goals in 259 appearances, while the other two each played less than fifty times each for us.

 

Other title winners

Steve McMahon started out with Everton, striking eleven times in a century of League games before joining Aston Villa, from where he signed for the reds in September 1985 for £375,000. He bagged fifty goals in 277 reds games, winning three League titles, the FA Cup and two FA Charity Shields. David Johnson netted 78 times in 213 reds games after arriving from Ipswich Town for a club record £200,000 in August 1976, winning three League titles, European Cup, UEFA Super Cup and two FA Charity Shields, and also had two spells at Goodison, notching fifteen times in ninety League outings.

 

Right-back Andrew Hannah won the League with Everton in 1891, before helping us to the Second Division title in 1893 and playing 73 reds games, turning out for Scottish side Renton in between. England international forward Fred Geary was also a League championship winner with Everton in 1891, striking 86 times in 98 games, before moving to Anfield for £60 in 1895. He bagged fourteen goals in 45 reds games.

 

Scots crossing the park

A host of other Scottish players have made the direct switch from blue to red over the years. Left-back Duncan McLean joined the reds from Everton in 1892 and bagged six goals in 86 games, helping us to claim the Second Division title in our first ever League season. Winger Patrick Gordon arrived the following year and grabbed eight goals in thirty games. Forward Abe Hartley crossed the park in December 1897, netting once in twelve games before joining Southampton the following May.

 

Full-back David Murray also arrived from the Blues in May 1904, but only made fifteen reds appearances. Keeper Don Sloan switched in May 1908, only playing six times before returning to his former club Belfast Distillery a year later. Another custodian, Frank Mitchell, made the same journey as amateur in December 1919, signing professionally for £1,250 in February 1921. He played eighteen times before joining Tranmere Rovers in June 1923 after failing to permanently displace the great Elisha Scott.

 

Forward Billy Hartill arrived from Goodison in January 1936 and played just four times before joining Bristol Rovers after only two months at Anfield. Winger Tony McNamara struck 21 times in 111 League games for Everton before crossing the park in December 1957 for £4,000. He grabbed three goals in ten reds games, moving on to Crewe Alexandra in July 1958. Forward Tom Wyllie bagged sixteen goals in 25 senior games after signing from Everton in 1892, as well as scoring the only goal of the first ever derby meeting with his former club, in the Liverpool Senior Cup Final in 1893 after which he moved to Bury.

 

Other double agents

Sander Westerveld spent nearly three months on loan at Goodison from Portsmouth in early 2006, but only played twice for the Toffees. He made 103 reds appearances, helping us to five trophies in 2001, after signing from Vitesse Arnhem for £4m in June 1999, a then British record fee for a goalkeeper. Centre-forward Les Shannon signed professional terms in November 1944, having to wait until April 1948 to make his reds bow. He bagged just one goal in eleven games, as well as six in fifteen wartime appearances, moving on to Burnley in November 1949. He was Youth Coach at Everton for three years after retiring from playing in 1959 and is the father of former Under-16’s coach Dave Shannon.

 

In the 1990’s, David Burrows and Don Hutchinson were team-mates at Anfield, and with West Ham United, as well as both featuring for Everton. Burrows made 193 appearances in five years at Anfield, winning League, FA Cup and FA Charity Shield medals, but made just 23 outings at Goodison. Hutchinson played just sixty reds games, scoring ten times, and struck eleven times in 89 Blues games. Reds reserves Alan Harper, Mike Newell, Kevin Sheedy and Dave Watson all went on to better things when they moved to Everton during the 1980’s, while reds loanee keeper Alec Chamberlain also spent time in the Goodison reserves.

 

Forward Arthur Berry only played four times in two spells with the reds, and also played for the Blues. His best days came with the British Olympics side, winning gold in both 1908 and 1912. Other players who have lined up on both sides of Stanley Park include 1890’s England international forward Edgar Chadwick and half-back Neil McBain. Chadwick only managed 45 reds games, netting seven times, and later had a successful career as a coach in Germany and the Netherlands. McBain was at Anfield for less than a year, playing twelve times in 1928, and later became the oldest player ever to play League football, while with New Brighton in 1947. Keeper John Whitehead played just three times in the 1890’s.

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Agree with Mag's team sheet

 

 

 

----------------Mignolet

 

Clyne-----Skrtel-----Salho-----Moreno

 

-------Can-----Lucas-----Milner

 

----------------Coutinho

 

-------Sturridge------Benteke

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Down Memory Lane

 

YNWA takes a look back at recent memorable League visits to Goodison Park, as we prepare to take our 97th League trip there on Sunday. So far our record reads 32 wins, thirty draws and 34 defeats.

 

Most recently

The game last February ended goalless as Jordon Ibe hit the woodwork, and was Brendan Rodgers’ hundredth League game in charge. We were held to a 3-3 draw in November 2013, despite twice leading. Philippe Coutinho opened the scoring inside five minutes before Kevin Mirallas levelled for the Blues. Luis Suárez restored our lead with a free kick, but Joe Allen missed a golden opportunity to extend our lead before Romelu Lukaku struck the most recent two of his four goals past us to leave us on the verge of defeat. However, Daniel Sturridge came off the bench to nod in a late equaliser.

 

We led 2-0 in October 2012 after Leighton Baines deflected in a Suárez strike before the Uruguayan himself netted, celebrating the first goal by theatrically diving in front of David Moyes, who had accused him of simulation before the game. However, Leon Osman and Steven Naismith netted to level the scores before the break. The match ended 2-2 with Suárez having an injury-time winner wrongly ruled out for offside.

 

We won 2-0 in October 2011, with Jack Rodwell sent off half-way through the first half for a late tackle on Luis Suárez. Dirk Kuyt had a penalty saved just before the break, while Charlie Adam struck the crossbar. However, we eventually triumphed thanks to goals from Andy Carroll and Suárez. We won by the same score in November 2009, securing our third straight victory in this fixture. We opened the scoring when Joseph Yobo deflected a speculative Javier Mascherano strike past Tim Howard, with Dirk Kuyt adding a late second after Pepe Reina had pulled off a spectacular double save. We won by the same score in September 2008 thanks to a Fernando Torres brace after an hour, with a third goal harshly ruled out for an alleged foul by Dirk Kuyt. Tim Cahill was dismissed late on for a challenge on Xabi Alonso.

 

Dirk at the double

Dirk Kuyt converted two spot-kicks as we came from behind to win 2-1 in October 2007. The Blues had fortuitously gone ahead through a Sami Hyypiä own goal, but we equalised after Tony Hibbert had brought down Steven Gerrard, with the defender rightly being dismissed. Lucas was denied the stoppage time winning goal by Phil Neville’s hand-ball on the line, for which he too was red carded. Mark Clattenburg joined the lengthy list of referees castigated by Blues due to both his failure to send Kuyt off for a strong challenge on the home side’s skipper, and the lack of a penalty given for Jamie Carragher’s tussle with Joleon Lescott in the box immediately after we had finally taken the lead.

 

Gary Mac wins it

An amazing game in April 2001 ended in a 3-2 win, our first at Goodison for eleven years. Emile Heskey opened the scoring straight after an unsuccessful Everton penalty appeal. Duncan Ferguson capitalised on a defensive mix-up to equalise, the hundredth League goal we let in under Gérard Houllier’s sole charge, before Markus Babbel netted a breakaway. Robbie Fowler missed a penalty that would have made it 3-1, before Jeff Winter handed the initiative back to Everton by first dismissing Igor Bišcan, and then awarding a dubious penalty, which David Unsworth converted. Finally, Gary McAllister won the game with a 44-yard stoppage time free-kick, his hundredth career League strike.

 

Double dismissals

Phil Neville and Mikel Arteta were both sent off in December 2005 as Peter Crouch, Steven Gerrard and Djibril Cissé struck our goals in a 3-1 victory. Robbie Fowler and Everton’s David Unsworth were both dismissed in a 1-1 draw in April 1997, as we benefited from a Claus Thomsen own goal, sometimes credited to Jamie Redknapp.

 

Personal milestones

Sami Hyypiä played his 200th League game as we lost 1-0 in December 2004. We won 3-0 in August 2003, our fourth straight League win at Goodison, a record for any club. Harry Kewell notched his first reds goal as we won our first match of the season, with Michael Owen bagging a brace.

 

Four months earlier, Michael Owen opened the scoring with a solo effort, his first from open play in a derby, and the sixth consecutive League game in which he had scored. A David Unsworth penalty drew the Blues level before a cracking strike from Danny Murphy won us all three points. Everton had both David Weir and Gary Naysmith sent off late on.

 

Rare goals

Neil Ruddock scored an own goal in our 2-0 defeat in October 1997, our only one in a League derby prior to last season. Øyvind Leonhardsen made his League debut in this match. Defender Nicky Tanner scored his only reds goal in our 1-1 draw in December 1991.

 

Ablett in action

Julian Dicks made his reds bow in our 2-0 defeat in September 1993, the most recent red to make his debut in a derby, with Steve McManaman and Bruce Grobbelaar, playing his 600th reds game, coming to blows after the first goal. Ex-red Gary Ablett skippered the Blues. We lost 2-1 in December 1992, with Mark Wright opening the scoring. Mo Johnston equalised almost immediately, before ex-red Peter Beardsley struck the winner from a pass by fellow ex-red Gary Ablett to become only the second player to score for both sides in this fixture.

 

Blue legends

Wayne Rooney was the Everton mascot in April 1996 with Robbie Fowler on target late on in a 1-1 draw. Joe Royle’s first game in charge at Goodison resulted in a 2-0 win for him in November 1994, with goals from strike pairing Duncan Ferguson and Paul Rideout.

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It isn't

It is in terms of the away support. Go down meekly and they'll 'ave 'im. Home support won't be far behind.

 

Also, the thread title needs changing.

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It is in terms of the away support. Go down meekly and they'll 'ave 'im. Home support won't be far behind.

 

Also, the thread title needs changing.

Makes no difference. He lost the vast majority of the support ages ago. FSG aren't interested

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He's got until Christmas whatever happens here. So no point thinking otherwise

By which time Klopp will be at Chelsea and Ancelotti at City. We'll get Villa Boas because he fits their philosophy. Despite failing at 2 of our rivals in 2 years

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Martinez on Rodgers: "Pressure is the nature of the game. It's normal and it comes with not winning games."

Martinez: "Being favourites or not doesn't matter in a derby. If you look at the money Liverpool have spent they need to be favourites."

Martinez says Everton's confidence "has gone through the roof" after their comeback win against WBA on Monday.

 

Tony Barrett @TonyBarretTimes 6m6 minutes ago

Roberto Martinez says Stones & Coleman are progressing well but a decision on their fitness for the derby will be left as late as possible.

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Rodgers:If we go in as favourites it shows we're a big club. We're happy to have that here. The level of our opponent's game always goes up.

Rodgers: "Everton have done well. They are a point ahead of us. They've had a good start and we've had a disaster!"

Rodgers: "It's another opportunity to get a victory. We respect that it will be a tough game. It's one we want to win for our supporters."

Rodgers on his future: "It;'s not something I'm worried about. I'll always work best I can. I'm not seeking any reassurances."

Rodgers on boos: "I respect that. There is frustration when you don't win the game. You have to take it on the chin as manager and players."

Rodgers on Martinez: "We will always take the favourites tag if people want to put that on to us. We are Liverpool."

Rodgers "You saw in the game last week Daniel's quality. He's so important for us. Top players give a team confidence. He has star quality."

Rodgers: "We go into Sunday's game with confidence. We have quality in this team. We should have won that game last night 4-1."

Rodgers: "We're not giving away many opportunities but we're getting punished for mistakes. We need to cut out those mistakes."

Rodgers: "No more or less pressure on this game than I've had before.Reality is we're only couple of points off top 4 and 5pts off the top."

Rodgers: "You can see the team is starting to evolve. We are creating a lot of chances. Now we need to start taking them. It's a huge game."

Rodgers: "These are fantastic games. My 4th season going to Goodison. We have played well there, been unfortunate not to win there."

Rodgers: "With so many games we have to make sure we look after Daniel Sturridge. He's fresh and fit and looking forward to this weekend."

Rodgers: "No real change with injuries. Seeing how Benteke is over course of next 24hrs. Squad will be pretty much same as Villa game."


Rodgers: "It's not about me, it's about supporting the team. It's still very early in the season. There's lot of improvement still to come."

Rodgers: "Over the past 12 months we've had to manage a lot of change and a lot of disruption. Winning games is key to having support."

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James Pearce ‏@JamesPearceEcho 3m3 minutes ago

Rodgers:If we go in as favourites it shows we're a big club. We're happy to have that here. The level of our opponent's game always goes up.

 

 

 

James Pearce ‏@JamesPearceEcho 5m5 minutes ago

Rodgers: "Everton have done well. They are a point ahead of us. They've had a good start and we've had a disaster!"

 

 

James Pearce ‏@JamesPearceEcho 7m7 minutes ago

 

 

 

 

 

Rodgers: "It's another opportunity to get a victory. We respect that it will be a tough game. It's one we want to win for our supporters."

 

 

James Pearce ‏@JamesPearceEcho 8m8 minutes ago

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rodgers on his future: "It;'s not something I'm worried about. I'll always work best I can. I'm not seeking any reassurances."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

James Pearce ‏@JamesPearceEcho 9m9 minutes ago

Rodgers on boos: "I respect that. There is frustration when you don't win the game. You have to take it on the chin as manager and players."

 

 

 

 

 

James Pearce ‏@JamesPearceEcho 10m10 minutes ago

Rodgers on Martinez: "We will always take the favourites tag if people want to put that on to us. We are Liverpool."

 

 

James Pearce ‏@JamesPearceEcho 10m10 minutes ago

 

 

 

 

 

Rodgers "You saw in the game last week Daniel's quality. He's so important for us. Top players give a team confidence. He has star quality."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

James Pearce ‏@JamesPearceEcho 11m11 minutes ago

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rodgers: "We go into Sunday's game with confidence. We have quality in this team. We should have won that game last night 4-1."

 

 

James Pearce ‏@JamesPearceEcho 12m12 minutes ago

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rodgers: "We're not giving away many opportunities but we're getting punished for mistakes. We need to cut out those mistakes."

 

 

 

 

 

James Pearce ‏@JamesPearceEcho 13m13 minutes ago

Rodgers: "No more or less pressure on this game than I've had before.Reality is we're only couple of points off top 4 and 5pts off the top."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

James Pearce ‏@JamesPearceEcho 14m14 minutes ago

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rodgers: "You can see the team is starting to evolve. We are creating a lot of chances. Now we need to start taking them. It's a huge game."

 

 

 

James Pearce ‏@JamesPearceEcho 14m14 minutes ago

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rodgers: "These are fantastic games. My 4th season going to Goodison. We have played well there, been unfortunate not to win there."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

James Pearce ‏@JamesPearceEcho 15m15 minutes ago

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rodgers: "With so many games we have to make sure we look after Daniel Sturridge. He's fresh and fit and looking forward to this weekend."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

James Pearce ‏@JamesPearceEcho 16m16 minutes ago

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rodgers: "No real change with injuries. Seeing how Benteke is over course of next 24hrs. Squad will be pretty much same as Villa game."

 

James Pearce ‏@JamesPearceEcho 4m4 minutes ago

Rodgers: "It's not about me, it's about supporting the team. It's still very early in the season. There's lot of improvement still to come."

 

James Pearce ‏@JamesPearceEcho 6m6 minutes ago

 

 

Rodgers: "Over the past 12 months we've had to manage a lot of change and a lot of disruption. Winning games is key to having support."

 

 

 

Please make it stop.

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Rodgers: "You can see the team is starting to evolve. We are creating a lot of chances. Now we need to start taking them. It's a huge game."

 

 

:banghead: :banghead:

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Piss funny isn't it?

 

His incredulity of very reasonable dissatisfaction is annoying.

 

Anyway, I think it'll be a draw. 2-2. Not confident at all of a win. Unless Sturridge has a stormer.

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Last night didn't offer much in the way of inspiration. We will still t*** these though, as long as we give it a go. Sit back and get beat and I'm burning Rodgers' house down.

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