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Hull (A) - 28 April - SOS

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Sir Tokyo Sexwale

Sir Tokyo Sexwale

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Dear Supporter,

Liverpool FC are playing away to Hull City at the KC Stadium on Tuesday 28th April. Match tickets are priced at £50. £2 will be knocked off per ticket by way of a subsidy from Liverpool FC and this is to be taken from the £200,000 Premier League away fans initiative. That makes it £48 a ticket. Last season, tickets for this fixture were £35.

 

Stoke City played Hull City at the KC Stadium in August of this season. Their tickets were £16.

 

Everton FC played Hull City at the KC Stadium in December of this season. Their tickets were £35.

 

The mark up for Liverpool FC fans compared to Stoke City is 200%. The mark up compared to Everton FC is just over 31%.

 

That's double the cost for Evertonians compared to Stoke City and then treble the cost for Liverpool FC fans. Remember here, we're watching the same opposition, from the same seats, from the same stand, with the same facilities in the same league.

 

Read that again - £48 for a Liverpool FC fan and £16 for a Stoke City fan. A 200% mark up. This is unacceptable.

 

With support of the Spion Kop 1906 group, the Spirit of Shankly Management Committee have decided that we will not be attending this match. Instead, we will hold a demonstration at Anfield to voice our displeasure at the disgraceful pricing of Premier League tickets.

 

In solidarity, many of the regular independent coaches that are organised and travel from Liverpool will also not be travelling to this fixture. Fans can simply not afford to attend every game at the prices that are currently set.

 

We would encourage fans to join us on that night to tell the money men of the Premier League cartel that they cannot continue to charge exorbitant prices, whilst making obscene amounts of money. This wealth should be shared and passed back to the lifeblood of the game, the supporters.

 

For our members in London, a separate demonstration will be held outside the Premier League Head Quarters.

 

We are aware there are many fans who would wish to simply stop attending games until prices reduce, however we are also only too aware that these fans fear of losing out on attendance credits.

 

We also acknowledge that if people simply refuse to buy a ticket, they will end up in the hands of the modern day football tourists that the clubs are so eager to attract.

 

With this in mind, we will personally be purchasing a £10 ticket in order to maintain our credits and not go. We would urge those who support this initiative to do the same and join us at Anfield.

 

After the demo, we will head to a local pub to watch the match together. More details will follow on this.

 

This is our chance to show that the power is still with the fans. If we stop going, the game will eventually die. Take this chance to send a warning to the people that run the game, we will no longer accept these prices when there is more money in the sport than ever before.

 

We demand the redistribution of wealth. Join us from 7.00 pm at the Anfield and let the powers that be know Liverpool football fans are at the front in the fight for affordable football for all.

 

Enough is Enough

 

http://www.spiritofshankly.com/news/hull-city-away-supporter-protest

 

Spirit Of Shankly

Liverpool Supporters Union

 

 

Cam

Cam

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Er no, not really.

 

If they can get £10 tickets then what's the issue? And how are members of SoS pretending to be toddlers? How does it not affect their credits?

 

Something needs to be done about ticket prices in general (and this specific mark-up compared to Stoke and Everton is a disgrace) so I applaud any effort. But I still don't get the £10 ticket bit.

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Jonesy

Jonesy

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The mark up on the Everton ticket is 37%, not 31.

Still, this is horrendous. I hope nobody goes.

There will just be more tickets that find there find to ticket agencies. Sadly our end will full as it normally is.

kop205

kop205

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We are aware there are many fans who would wish to simply stop attending games until prices reduce, however we are also only too aware that these fans fear of losing out on attendance credits.

 

We also acknowledge that if people simply refuse to buy a ticket, they will end up in the hands of the modern day football tourists that the clubs are so eager to attract.

 

 

Kind of conflicted on this in that I agree with the general sentiment but this aspect above does my head in a bit as well.

 

There are loads of decent lads (i.e. not 'modern day football tourists') who can't get their own tickets for away games because they don't have credits and have no hope of ever building any up because it is a closed shop.

 

That would be fine if it was genuinely just the same couple of thousand lads going to every away match but that doesn't seem to me to be the case. Tickets seem to get passed around, offered out etc often fairly late in the day by people who probably never had any intention of going to lots of the games and probably aren't that arsed who they shift it to - even to a 'modern day football tourist' if needs be.

 

I do get why that is and have done the same for home Cup games with my brother's ticket for example when he can't make it up, still getting it ( through the autocup thing) but shifting it to mates, mates of mates and occasionally outside the ground as a last resort. I think the flaw is in the system and am not having a go at anyone for using it to their advantage because I do the same.

 

I'd like to see a small number of tickets for every game (or certainly every away game at least), put on a general sale at Anfield rather than online or over the phone or into a ballot (but you'd have to come to Anfield to collect them). It would at least give other people a chance to 'break in' to the aways, whilst allowing those who genuinely do attend every game themselves to still in all likelihood get tickets.

 

But yeah, that pricing is a disgrace - though I imagine Hull isn't the only time in a season that we get stung like this?

Hightown Phil

Hightown Phil

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Er no, not really.

 

If they can get £10 tickets then what's the issue? And how are members of SoS pretending to be toddlers? How does it not affect their credits?

 

Something needs to be done about ticket prices in general (and this specific mark-up compared to Stoke and Everton is a disgrace) so I applaud any effort. But I still don't get the £10 ticket bit.

They're kids tickets. You buy the ticket, you don't go, the seat goes empty, Hull lose money and there's a visual effect of us selling out the game and there being loads of empty seats. If 500 people did it, Hull are £20k down. 1000 people do it? £40k down. The whole end does it and they've lost themselves £100k. But in comparison to Stoke, and us having NO ONE in the away end, they're £15000 worse off. It's disgraceful.

 

5 coaches have already said that they aren't going so there's 10% of the away end already empty. My two tickets will be £10 kids tickets that won't even leave the envelope. Hopefully loads of the same.

 

The point isn't really about the credit, but if I buy the £10 ticket and leave the seat empty then it's empty. If I don't buy the ticket what happens? Someone sees it as an opportunity to get themselves on the ladder for away games, pays £50 and completely defeats the object of the whole thing. If I didn't buy it I'd have 18 credits next season so it wouldn't matter - same goes for everyone who'll have all 19. Letting someone else buy the ticket defeats the whole object.

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Cam

Cam

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They're kids tickets. You buy the ticket, you don't go, the seat goes empty, Hull lose money and there's a visual effect of us selling out the game and there being loads of empty seats. If 500 people did it, Hull are £20k down. 1000 people do it? £40k down. The whole end does it and they've lost themselves £100k. But in comparison to Stoke, and us having NO ONE in the away end, they're £15000 worse off. It's disgraceful.

 

5 coaches have already said that they aren't going so there's 10% of the away end already empty. My two tickets will be £10 kids tickets that won't even leave the envelope. Hopefully loads of the same.

 

The point isn't really about the credit, but if I buy the £10 ticket and leave the seat empty then it's empty. If I don't buy the ticket what happens? Someone sees it as an opportunity to get themselves on the ladder for away games, pays £50 and completely defeats the object of the whole thing. If I didn't buy it I'd have 18 credits next season so it wouldn't matter - same goes for everyone who'll have all 19. Letting someone else buy the ticket defeats the whole object.

 

It's not a true boycott if people are buying tickets to stop others from going. Fine if people are buying their own tickets and not going but buying up other's tickets, i.e. kids ones, and then not going is odd. And if it's for the credit then it's also wanting your cake and eating it.

 

How do SoS know the tickets would go to football tourists. They could be denying a kid the one chance he has of a ticket for his idols. I just think SoS will be on dodgy ground the next time they talk of getting more kids into the ground.

 

Hull are on the rob here. And Liverpool are complicit. I appreciate the protests but I don't get this boycott... and I'm all for boycotts usually; I wanted us to boycott under G&H, I supported our Sheff Weds boycott in '99(?), I hope Newcastle's is successful today.

Cobs

Cobs

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The FA or PL could so easily remedy this. Set a fixed maximum cost for all away tkts. £20. Job done.

 

Out of order for the fans of big teams to keep getting ripped off like this.

Sion

Sion

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It's not a true boycott if people are buying tickets to stop others from going. Fine if people are buying their own tickets and not going but buying up other's tickets, i.e. kids ones, and then not going is odd. And if it's for the credit then it's also wanting your cake and eating it.

 

How do SoS know the tickets would go to football tourists. They could be denying a kid the one chance he has of a ticket for his idols. I just think SoS will be on dodgy ground the next time they talk of getting more kids into the ground.

 

Hull are on the rob here. And Liverpool are complicit. I appreciate the protests but I don't get this boycott... and I'm all for boycotts usually; I wanted us to boycott under G&H, I supported our Sheff Weds boycott in '99(?), I hope Newcastle's is successful today.

 

Dodgy ground with who? At worst they piss off some wool kid from Hull surely?

Cam

Cam

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Dodgy ground with who? At worst they piss off some wool kid from Hull surely?

Wasn't thinking of the child as a wool, it could quite easily be a local kid. More likely in fact, given postcode checks, Memberships and fan cards. Your post infers that out-of-towners are inferior to locals and this is an issue that has long been labeled at SoS.

 

Dodgy ground with the club, FA or whoever. SoS say they support getting more kids into the games, the ones that are priced-out & disenfranchised, the next generation of Kopites. Well, let 'em go to the game and stop buying tickets up to stop them.

 

Educate fans, promote the boycott, buy the ticket and form a ring of steel around the ground. Anything but stopping others from making their own minds up all because they fear not getting a Cup Final ticket.

Sion

Sion

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Wasn't thinking of the child as a wool, it could quite easily be a local kid. More likely in fact, given postcode checks, Memberships and fan cards. Your post infers that out-of-towners are inferior to locals and this is an issue that has long been labeled at SoS.

 

Dodgy ground with the club, FA or whoever. SoS say they support getting more kids into the games, the ones that are priced-out & disenfranchised, the next generation of Kopites. Well, let 'em go to the game and stop buying tickets up to stop them.

 

Educate fans, promote the boycott, buy the ticket and form a ring of steel around the ground. Anything but stopping others from making their own minds up all because they fear not getting a Cup Final ticket.

 

An away game at Hull is going to be a local Merseyside kid's only chance of going the game?

You're reading too much into this.

We have an enormous amount of whoppers who follow us. If people at the top of the list don't buy up the tickets, it'll just be a wasted protest as plenty will take their place.

Cam

Cam

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An away game at Hull is going to be a local Merseyside kid's only chance of going the game?

You're reading too much into this.

We have an enormous amount of whoppers who follow us. If people at the top of the list don't buy up the tickets, it'll just be a wasted protest as plenty will take their place.

 

Not the only chance, nah. But it's SoS playing God/Superfans again and, seemingly, taking advantage by snapping up the tickets they're telling folk not to buy.
DJS

DJS

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I still don't get how it's possible (or even legal) for a 10 year old or under to go to a game alone, as would be theoretically allowed, if an under 10 ticket can be sold without needing an adult ticket to be bought along with it.

Hightown Phil

Hightown Phil

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Not the only chance, nah. But it's SoS playing God/Superfans again and, seemingly, taking advantage by snapping up the tickets they're telling folk not to buy.

You're spectacularly missing this on numerous levels.

smithdown

smithdown

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I still don't get how it's possible (or even legal) for a 10 year old or under to go to a game alone, as would be theoretically allowed, if an under 10 ticket can be sold without needing an adult ticket to be bought along with it.

why not? I remember going on my own in the stands from age 7, although not on a terrace I don't think and deffo not an away like of course, but still

DJS

DJS

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why not? I remember going on my own in the stands from age 7, although not on a terrace I don't think and deffo not an away like of course, but still

Depends how many moons ago that was.

 

The law is a bit stricter now about letting under 10s go on their own, surely. 'Health and safety' is on top of everything else.

 

"Children under 10 must be accompanied by an adult" or phrases of that ilk are commonplace and I imagine when you were 7, you didn't travel from Liverpool to Hull alone to attend.

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Cobs

Cobs

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Depends how many moons ago that was.

 

The law is a bit stricter now about letting under 10s go on their own, surely. 'Health and safety' is on top of everything else.

 

"Children under 10 must be accompanied by an adult" or phrases of that ilk are commonplace and I imagine when you were 7, you didn't travel from Liverpool to Hull alone to attend.

http://help.liverpoolfc.tv/app/answers/detail/a_id/833/kw/age%20limit%20for%20child%20tickets/session/L3RpbWUvMTQyOTczMzUxOC9zaWQvYXVDQTF4a20%3D

That sort of thing?

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