Liverpool vs Newcastle United

[Cam]

Under 48 hours to kickoff and no match thread!

 

Mignolet

Johnson Lovren Sakho Moreno

Henderson Lucas Can

Sterling Sturridge Coutinho

 

Time now to convert Can back into a midfielder, in readiness for next season.

[DazzlaJ]

Has Sahko recovered?

[chiliking]

Sakho is still injured, isn't he?

And then I am thinking Can with Lovren, as the alternative is Toure. Difficult choice, though

[realtarragona]

I'd like to see us go with a diamond and put Sterling up alongside Sturridge.

 

Edit - Actually if Ibe is back I'd put him straight in.

Wouldn't mind seeing him, Coutinho and Sterling playing behind Sturridge

Edited April 11, 2015 by realtarragona

[Alonso]

Would go

 

Mignolet

Johnson kolo lovren Moreno

Henderson can

Ibe coutinho Sterling

sturridge

 

Defence looks shocking admittedly but don't think we've much option but that attack should yield some goals

[Red Yoda]

----------Mignolet

 

-----Can Lovren Kolo

 

Ibe Henderson Allen Moreno

 

-Sterling Sturridge Coutinho

[fellafeen]

Mignolet

Johnson Can Lovren Moreno

Henderson Lucas

Ibe Sterling Coutinho

Sturridge

 

Will be very interesting next weekend when stevie and Skrtel come back in to the mix. Any news on Lallana?

[Red Yoda]

Will be very interesting next weekend when stevie and Skrtel come back in to the mix. Any news on Lallana?

 

 

Still injured, it's been a lousy season with injuries for Lallana

[Cam]

Sakho is still injured, isn't he?

Dammit. Y'see, this is why i need someone to do a match thread early.

 

Kolo it is then. Which should be fine if Cisse is still suspended for them.

[fred milne]

Henderson can

Henderson and Can are not a midfield two.

[Ombudsam]

Henderson and Can are not a midfield two.

I read it as a vote of confidence for Jordan

[fred milne]

Ha!

[fred milne]

I'd go with

 

Mignolet

Can Toure Lovren Moreno

Lucas

Henderson Allen

Coutinho

Sturridge Sterling

[Ombudsam]

I'd go with

---------------Mignolet-------------

Johnson Lovren Toure Moreno

-------------------Can----------------

-----Henderson------Coutinho---

-------Ibe---Sturridge--Sterling-

 

Just because it's exciting. Can probably can't hold a midfield and Sturridge isn't so hot without a partner but in a world where I can type without consequence I want to see this.

[autumn319]

IBE's return is very good news.

The lad can play,he's clever.

[Will]

Double Agents

 

In advance of our first meeting of the season on Saturday, YNWA looks at the careers of some of the many who have represented both Newcastle United and the reds.

 

Current double agents

Left-back José Enrique signed from Newcastle United for £5.5m in August 2011, so far netting twice in 96 appearances for the reds. He had moved to St. James’ Park from Villarreal for £6.3m four years earlier, notching just once in 129 outings as they were relegated and then returned to the Premiership as champions. Dave Watson was appointed Under-18’s Coach at Newcastle in November 2011. He never broke through into the reds first team as a centre-half, going on to far greater success with Norwich City and across Stanley Park.

 

Peter Beardsley was appointed Reserve Team Manager at Newcastle in July 2010, taking temporary charge of the first team when Chris Hughton was sacked five months later. He changed roles in October 2011 to become Football Development Manager. He arrived at Anfield from St. James’ Park for a British record £1.9m fee in July 1987, winning two League titles, an FA Cup and two FA Charity Shields, scoring 59 times in 175 games. He was controversially sold by Graeme Souness to Everton for £1m in August 1991. He had originally been released as a teenager by the Toon, later joining them from Vancouver Whitecaps for £150,000 in September 1983, striking 61 times in 164 games, then netting another 56 goals in 157 outings after returning from Everton for a £1.4m fee in July 1993.

 

The Kaiser

Dietmar Hamann was signed for Newcastle by Kenny Dalglish for £5.25m in August 1998, although he only stayed on Tyneside for one season before moving to Anfield for £8m. He featured in their FA Cup Final defeat and thirty other games, and made 283 reds appearances, netting just eleven times as he helped us to claim the European Cup, UEFA Cup, two FA Cups, two UEFA Super Cups, two League Cups and the FA Charity Shield. He left Anfield for Manchester City after a farcical transfer to Bolton Wanderers in July 2006.

 

The management

Kevin Keegan took over in the St. James’ Park hot-seat for the second time in January 2008, but only stayed for eight months, winning just six out of his 21 games. He led them to the Second Division title and amassed a host of ex-reds in the five years of his first spell as Manager on Tyneside in the mid-1990’s, after an earlier period as a player. Terry McDermott and Mark Lawrenson joined his coaching staff, while ex-reds to feature in his Newcastle teams included Peter Beardsley, Mike Hooper and Barry Venison. Kenny Dalglish took over from Keegan in January 1997, leading them to second place that season and then thirteenth place and the FA Cup Final in his one full season in charge. He was sacked just two unbeaten games into the following season.

 

Graeme Souness took over at St. James’ Park in September 2004, following the sacking of Sir Bobby Robson. He collected his usual backroom staff around him, including fellow ex-reds Dean Saunders and Phil Boersma, as well as former Magpie Terry McDermott. Souness was sacked as Toon boss in February 2006, after 36 wins in 83 games. Boersma struck thirty times in 120 reds games, although he struggled to oust both Kevin Keegan and John Toshack. Saunders scored 25 times in 61 reds outings after his British record £2.9m signing from Derby County. He was sold by Souness after only fourteen months at Anfield, moving on to Aston Villa for £2.3m. Steve Clarke coached under Ruud Gullit at Newcastle United, taking over as Caretaker Manager after the Dutchman’s departure in August 1999, although he was only charge for one game, a 5-1 defeat at Manchester United. He was appointed as a first-team coach at Anfield by Kenny Dalglish in January 2011, moving on in June 2012.

 

Right-half Gordon Milne played 282 times for us after signing for a club record £16,000 from Preston North End in August 1960, netting eighteen times and winning the League title twice, as well as the Second Division championship before joining Blackpool in May 1967. After a distinguished management career in England, Japan and Turkey he became Newcastle’s Director of Football, remaining there until Souness’s arrival. Centre-half Keith Burkinshaw only made one senior reds appearance, in April 1955. After his playing career ended he spent some time as Assistant Coach at St. James’ Park in the 1970’s. Richard Money became Academy Director for Newcastle in June 2008, but moved back into management with Conference National side Luton Town in October 2009. The defender spent two years at Anfield after signing from Fulham for £50,000 in May 1980, but was unable to displace either Alan Kennedy or Phil Neal at full-back, making only seventeen first-team appearances before joining Luton Town in April 1982.

 

Up front

Andy Carroll signed from Newcastle United for a club record £35m on transfer deadline day in January 2011 after 33 goals in 91 games for his boyhood club, including one in their 3-1 defeat of the reds at St. James’ Park in December 2010. He struck eleven times in 58 reds games, moving to West Ham United for their club record £15.5m fee in June 2013 after spending the previous season on loan at Upton Park. Ian Rush was brought to Newcastle by King Kenny in August 1997, netting twice in fourteen appearances. John Barnes arrived from Anfield in the same week, bagging seven goals in 41 games before moving on to Charlton Athletic. Dalglish also signed his son Paul from Anfield in November of the same year. He struck twice in thirteen first-team appearances while at St. James’ Park. Albert Stubbins signed for the reds from Newcastle for £12,500 in September 1946 after six goals in thirty games, the record fee that they had received to date, as well as the then record British transfer. 28 goals in his first season helped us to the League title, and he went on to bag a total of 83 goals in 178 games while at Anfield. Jimmy Stott was top scorer in our first season in the Football League, his only one at Anfield. He bagged fourteen goals in seventeen reds games after signing from Middlesbrough in August 1893, and joined Newcastle after moving to Grimsby Town from Anfield in June 1894.

 

Michael Owen struck 158 times in 297 games for the reds, and moved on to Real Madrid in August 2004 for £8m after seven years’ great service to the reds. He had helped us to claim the UEFA Cup, FA Cup, UEFA Super Cup, League Cup and FA Charity Shield. He joined Newcastle United for £17m after a year in Spain and bagged thirty goals in 76 games for the Toon, having again suffered with a spate of injuries, moving to Manchester United on a free transfer in July 2009. Craig Bellamy arrived from Blackburn Rovers for £6m in June 2006 and struck nine times in 42 reds games, helping us to claim the FA Community Shield before moving to West Ham United for £7.5m in July 2007. He had signed for Newcastle from Coventry City for £6m in June 2001, grabbing 43 goals in 128 games before moving to Blackburn Rovers for £5m in July 2005, after a loan spell with Celtic. He returned to L4 on a free transfer from Manchester City in August 2011, netting nine times in 37 games in this second spell and helping us to claim the Carling Cup before re-joining Cardiff City for free in August 2012.

 

Howard Gayle became the first black player to appear for our first-team in modern times, but only made five senior appearances, netting once. He had a short loan spell with the Geordies, bagging two goals in eight League games. Sunderland-born inside-forward Arthur Metcalf signed from United for £150 in May 1912 and netted 28 times in 63 reds games, playing in every position on the park. Scottish winger John McDonald made 81 reds appearances after signing from Rangers in May 1909, scoring just four times. He moved on to St. James’ Park after three years at Anfield. Newcastle-born James Clark signed from his hometown club for £3,000 in January 1928 and bagged eleven goals in 42 games, before moving into the amateur game in July 1931 with North Shields.

 

At the back

Alan Kennedy was on the losing side in the 1974 FA Cup Final, with fellow future red Terry McDermott. Barney Rubble played nearly two hundred games for the Geordies before moving to L4 in August 1978 for £330,000, a British record for a full-back. He is best remembered for his winning strikes in two European Cup Finals, but also won five League titles, four League Cups and three FA Charity Shields, making 359 appearances and notching twenty times in his seven years at Anfield.

 

Scottish centre-half Norman Low signed from Newcastle in October 1933, making only thirteen first-team appearances before joining Newport County in November 1936. David Davidson was another Scottish centre-half who played for both sides. He joined the reds from Forfar Athletic in July 1928, going on to score twice in his 62 reds appearances. He moved on to Newcastle United in January 1930.

 

Wartime guests

Reds Jack Balmer, Allenby Chilton, Harry Eastham, Willie Fagan, Rob Glassey, Bill Kinghorn, Jimmy McInnes and Phil Taylor all guested for Newcastle United during the Second World War. Balmer scored 110 goals in 309 reds games, many alongside fellow double agent Albert Stubbins, becoming our first player to net hat-tricks in three consecutive games. Right-half Eastham struck four times in 68 reds outings while Scottish left-half McInnes signed from Third Lanark for £5,500 in March 1938 and netted once in 48 reds appearances, and was the club’s Secretary between 1955 and 1965, before hanging himself above the Archway Stile, the old turnstile between the Kop and Kemlyn Road stands, four days after our first ever FA Cup Final win. Rob Glassey signed from Horden Colliery Welfare during the 1933/34 season and netted four goals in nine outings before moving to Stoke City in November 1936.

 

Fagan signed from Preston North End for £8,000 in October 1937, netting 57 goals in 182 reds games that helped fire us to the League title in 1947 and the FA Cup Final three years later, before moving to Belfast Distillery in January 1952. Fellow Scottish forward Kinghorn bagged four goals in nineteen reds games after signing from Queens Park in April 1938. Taylor played 343 times at right-half, scoring 32 goals and winning one League title, and captaining the side. He became our Manager in May 1956, staying in the job for just over three years, but has the unhappy distinction of being the only reds boss never to manage the side in the top flight.

 

Other double agents

Inside-left Ronald ‘Wee’ Orr netted 39 times in 112 reds games, after joining from the Magpies for £350 in April 1908, including the only goal of the game at St. James’ Park in April 1909 to keep the reds in the top flight. Inside-forward Jimmy Harrower signed from Hibernian for £11,000 in January 1958 and bagged 22 goals in 105 reds games, before joining Newcastle United for £15,000 in March 1961. Robert Blanthorne arrived at Anfield from Birkenhead in November 1905, but only made two appearances, netting once, before joining Grimsby Town. He then moved on to Newcastle but sadly broke his leg in the opening game of the 1908/09 season and was never as good a player again.

 

Kevin Sheedy never made it at Anfield, and spent two seasons with the Geordies after leaving Everton on a free transfer in 1992, bagging four goals in 37 League outings. Danny Guthrie was sold to the Geordies for £2.5m in July 2008 after just seven reds games, initially establishing himself with them, turning out on 104 occasions, netting nine times, before being released in June 2012. He signed on for Reading later that month.

[psl]

Could be a good night for Sterling and Sturridge to find top form.

[Will]

Down Memory Lane

 

YNWA takes a look back at some memorable past League encounters at home as we prepare to entertain Newcastle United for the 79th time in the League on Monday. We have a very good record against the Geordies, winning 52, drawing fifteen and losing only eleven times to date.

 

Most recently

We won 2-1 in May 2014 as we ended the season in second place as Manchester City won their game played at the same time to clinch the title. Martin Škrtel put through his own net as we went in a goal down at the break, an all-Premier League record fourth own goal in a season. Daniel Agger equalised while playing his 232nd and last reds game before Daniel Sturridge scored in a club record twentieth different Premier League game in a single campaign as we reached a top-flight club record of 101 goals. Shola Ameobi and substitute Paul Dummett were both then sent off for the visitors, although the latter card was later rescinded. Luis Suárez also played his 133rd and final game for the club, with loanee left-back Aly Cissokho also turning out for the last time.

 

We were held to a 1-1 draw in November 2012, when Steven Gerrard played his 600th game for the club. Yohan Cabaye put the visitors ahead just before the break, with Luis Suárez bagging a sublime equaliser midway through the second period. We won 3-1 in December 2011, when we went behind to a Daniel Agger own goal before Gerrard came off the bench to inspire a comeback. Ex-Toon star Craig Bellamy bagged a brace, with Gerrard himself also on target. Andy Carroll headed against the bar, the seventeenth time we had hit the woodwork so far that season. We won 3-0 seven months earlier. Maxi Rodríguez opened the scoring before Dirk Kuyt converted a penalty and Luis Suárez struck, with ex-Toon star Andy Carroll making a late cameo from the bench.

 

Yossi Benayoun opened the scoring in May 2009, netting the 300th Premier League goal under Rafael Benítez’s management. Dirk Kuyt netted before Lucas rounded off the scoring with the 200th reds goal by a substitute as we won 3-0. Joey Barton was sent off for a late challenge on Xabi Alonso, becoming the only visiting player to date to be sent off at Anfield with two different clubs in the Premier League.

 

Also recently

We beat Kevin Keegan’s United 3-0 in March 2008, with the first goal coming when a defensive clearance ricocheted off Jermaine Pennant and into the net. Fernando Torres then grabbed his 25th goal of the season on the stroke of half time after being played in by Steven Gerrard. The roles were reversed in the second period, with the Spaniard providing an assist for his captain to complete the scoring.

 

Dirk Kuyt grabbed his first reds goal in September 2006, and 150th career strike to date, which was also our fiftieth Premier League strike against Newcastle United, as we won 2-0, while Luis García was playing his hundredth reds game. Xabi Alonso spectacularly scored from inside his own half, the second time he had managed that for the reds that calendar year.

 

4-3 twice

In April 1996, we played out a real humdinger. Robbie Fowler put us ahead after two minutes, but we went in 2-1 down at half-time after one of Les Ferdinand’s six strikes past us and a David Ginola goal. Robbie Fowler levelled the scores with his 22nd strike in his last 21 outings, but Faustino Asprilla put the visitors ahead two minutes later. Stan Collymore tied the match again, and then grabbed a dramatic last-gasp winner right at the death. The following March, we again won 4-3, with Robbie Fowler nabbing his second in the last minute, after we had led 3-0 with twenty minutes left. Keith Gillespie, Faustino Asprilla and Warren Barton had drawn the visitors level, after Steve McManaman and Patrik Berger also scored.

 

Eight in a row

We equalled a club record of eight consecutive League wins with our 2-0 victory on Boxing Day 2005, our 250th in the Premier League, a sequence that eventually rose to ten. Josemi came off the bench late on to make his 35th and final reds appearance, with Michael Owen making his first return to Anfield as an ex-red while Lee Bowyer was sent off for United for the second successive season. Steven Gerrard and Peter Crouch were both on target in the first half. This was our eighth consecutive clean sheet in the League, the best run since 1922/23.

 

Trebles galore

Michael Owen scored all three goals as we won Gérard Houllier’s hundredth League game in sole charge in May 2001. Tony Hateley bagged a treble that included a penalty in August 1967, his first reds strikes, as we won 6-0, our biggest ever victory over the Geordies. Emlyn Hughes also scored his first reds goal, with Roger Hunt adding a brace.

 

Centre-forward Dave Wright grabbed his first three goals for the club in February 1931, with his strike partner Harold Barton also netting for the first time in our 4-2 victory. Harry ‘Smiler’ Chambers and Newcastle’s Hughie Gallacher each scored a treble as we won 6-3 on Christmas Day 1925, with these being the first of Gallacher’s eight goals past us. Centre-half David Pratt scored his only reds goal and Cyril Oxley and Dick Forshaw also got on the scoresheet. In September 1895, inside-right Jimmy Ross bagged a hat-trick as we won 5-1, with Frank Becton and Harry Bradshaw also netting as centre-forward George Allan and defender John Holmes both made their reds debuts.

 

George Robledo scored the first three of his five goals against the reds in November 1950, as we lost 4-2, with Billy Liddell converting a penalty and Jimmy Payne also on target for the reds, and Ernest Taylor netting one of his five strikes past us. Albert Shepherd scored four of his twelve goals against the reds as they led 5-2 at half-time in December 1909, but we came back to win 6-5, with a brace apiece from Jack Parkinson and Ronald Orr, and goals from James Stewart and Arthur Goddard, his fiftieth reds goal. Jimmy Howie also scored for the visitors.

 

St Michael on target again

Sir Bobby Robson visited Anfield as player or Manager for the thirtieth time without a win as we drew 1-1 in May 2004 after Shola Ameobi gave the visitors the lead. Michael Owen struck his fourteenth goal in eleven games against the Geordies in what was the final reds game for him, Emile Heskey, Danny Murphy and Gérard Houllier. Keeper Paul Harrison sat on the reds bench for the first time.

 

Late goals in September 2002 from Gary Speed and one of Alan Shearer’s eight past us levelled the game, after Dietmar Hamann and Michael Owen, from the spot, had struck. This was the 200th game since Gérard Houllier took sole charge. Steven Gerrard came on as a substitute in December 1998 for Steve McManaman who had been hurt by future red Dietmar Hamann, and was later himself replaced by David Thompson after being injured in a challenge with Stuart Pearce, as we staged a comeback to win 4-2, with Michael Owen and Karlheinz Riedle both netting braces. Hamann was sent off for two bookable offences, with Nobby Solano scoring the first of his four goals against us and Andreas Andersson then putting the visitors two goals ahead.

 

Goalscoring milestones

We won 3-1 in December 2004, with Lee Bowyer sent off late on. Patrick Kluivert opened the scoring despite being yards offside, after being a late replacement for future red Craig Bellamy who was injured in the warm-up, but we levelled the scores through a Titus Bramble own goal, with Neil Mellor putting us ahead before the break with his sixth and final reds goal. Milan Baroš completed the scoring. We won 2-1 in March 2000 as substitute Jamie Redknapp headed a dramatic winner. Titi Camara had opened the scoring with his tenth and final reds goal before Alan Shearer nodded in a leveller.

 

Gary Gillespie grabbed the first of his sixteen reds goals as we won 3-1 in April 1985, with John Wark and Paul Walsh also on the scoresheet. We won 3-0 in March 1952 when Albert Stubbins struck his last two reds goals, with John Smith also on target. Left-half Jim Bradley scored his first reds goal in March 1907, as we won 4-1. Arthur Goddard, Jack Cox and Joe Hewitt were also on the scoresheet.

 

Goalkeeping debuts

John Ogston played his only reds game as we won 3-1 in April 1967, with Roger Hunt bagging a brace and Ian Callaghan also notching. This game launched Emlyn Hughes’ nickname of Crazy Horse after he rugby tackled United forward Albert Bennett in only his fifth reds match. Bill Perkins made his reds bow as we won 3-2 in April 1899, with Jack Cox, John Walker and George Allan on target, while half-back Thomas Cleghorn played his seventieth and final reds game. Outfield player Charlie Thompson made the first of just six reds appearances in a goalless draw in April 1930.

 

More thumping wins

We won our first ever encounter 5-1 in November 1893, with Jimmy Stott, Harry Bradshaw and Douglas Dick netting to add to a Patrick Gordon brace in this Second Division match, with these being the first reds strikes of both Bradshaw and Dick. Chris Lawler, Kevin Keegan, John Toshack, Emlyn Hughes and Steve Heighway all netted in a 5-0 win in March 1972.

 

Defeats

Our last home League defeat to the Geordies came in April 1994 as we lost 2-0. Rob Lee opened the scoring before Andy Cole equalled the Geordies’ club record of 29 strikes in a season, one of his eleven strikes past us. United condemned us to our only home League defeat of the season in December 1922, as we lost 2-0. Fifteen years earlier, we suffered our biggest ever home defeat by Newcastle, with Jack Parkinson on target as we lost 5-1. Jock Rutherford bagged the first two of his six goals past us, with George Wilson netting the first two of his five and Bill Appleyard also scoring for the visitors.

 

Off target

Tommy Smith missed a penalty in a 3-2 win in November 1972, with Peter Cormack, Alec Lindsay and John Toshack scoring. John Tudor bagged one of his five goals against the reds, with Malcolm MacDonald striking one of his seven past us. Steve Heighway grabbed the only goal of the game in March 1977, but Phil Neal had a spot-kick saved by the Geordie keeper Mike Mahoney.

 

Other meetings

Alan Hansen played his 500th reds game in January 1987, with Paul Walsh and Ian Rush securing a 2-0 victory. Kevin Lewis and Roger Hunt struck as we won 2-0 in October 1961, to secure our twelfth straight game unbeaten since the start of this promotion season. Unfortunately, we lost 2-0 at Middlesbrough in our next fixture. Left-half Tom Bromilow played his 300th League game in a goalless draw in April 1928. We were held to a 1-1 draw in February 1925, with Dick Forshaw on the scoresheet. Jock McNab, Walter Wadsworth and United’s Tommy Urwin were all dismissed!

 

Scottish keeper Ken Campbell played his hundredth League game for the reds as we were held to a 1-1 draw in September 1919, when Fred Pagnam struck our goal. We went down 1-0 in March 1902, with defender Thomas Hunter playing his fifth and final reds game and inside-forward John ‘Sailor’ Hunter turning out for the 45th and last time for us. Future red ‘Wee’ Ronald Orr struck the goal.

[richwilks]

Let's get the diamond back into play.

 

Mig

 

Can - Toure - Lovren - Moreno

 

Lucas

 

Henderson - Allen

 

Coutinho

 

Sterling - Sturridge

[DJS]

Newcastle have been on the beach for a couple of months. Let's not make tonight the night they get back from their holidays.

[Molby]

until we get a new striker I think we need to stick with variations of 4-3-3

 

we've got all sorts to juggle and I wouldn't be messing with it just because Sturridge hasn't been all that great recently

'cos if he was firing, it would be a straightforward 4-3-3 wouldn't it?

 

this would be different if Mario was available for selection (fit, not ill, motivated) - then I might take out Allen

[LondonLiverpoolFan]

Anyone around for a drink tonight near the ground or in town? If so where?

Edited April 13, 2015 by LondonLiverpoolFan

[Molby]

Anyone around for a drink tonight near the ground or in town? If so where?

the KC

 

which is around the corner from the Oakie

that's the place to meet and mingle with YNWA stalwarts

[The_Adder]

until we get a new striker I think we need to stick with variations of 4-3-3

 

we've got all sorts to juggle and I wouldn't be messing with it just because Sturridge hasn't been all that great recently

'cos if he was firing, it would be a straightforward 4-3-3 wouldn't it?

 

this would be different if Mario was available for selection (fit, not ill, motivated) - then I might take out Allen

 

I'd still like to see Sterling up top with him with Coutinho in behind.

 

That or Ibe and Sterling either side of Sturridge with Coutinho playing attacking mid in a midfield three.

[LondonLiverpoolFan]

the KC

 

which is around the corner from the Oakie

that's the place to meet and mingle with YNWA stalwarts

Might see you there...