Rory Fitzgerald Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 Does anyone have sympathy for them ? I do, I think they have an incredibly tough job and some of the decisions they get slaughtered for are because TV camaras (and slow motion) have a better angle than he does. There are some shockers alright I admit but some things happen so fast that you cant be sure. Reckon Michael Oliver is the best of them with Clattenberg thereafter, not sure after that.
Sir Tokyo Sexwale Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 Loads. I used to ref, it's murder. But the problem is, it's usually the same ones we have the biggest gripes with & that's no coincidence
Bootser Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 Almost impossible job without technology, so I have a fair degree of sympathy. Some of them are right c**** though.
Cobs Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 No sympathy. They are t***s. They should be demanding the use of technology.
DJS Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) I'd have sympathy if they didn't earn about £80k for doing something which either requires little real ability, or can be done even if you lack the required ability. And people say it's really hard which, in a certain context, it is. But let's be honest. It's hardly 10 hours a day in a factory. Edited March 8, 2015 by DJS
lammyrider Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Stuff like this dont help them,https://vine.co/v/OEiEnEbqzz6
Ombudsam Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 I don't have sympathy because I don't hate them. I barely know their names and which ones are good and bad. I just don't see it as an area of focus. The most boring part of the game.
fitzy Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 I don't have sympathy because I don't hate them. I barely know their names and which ones are good and bad. I just don't see it as an area of focus. The most boring part of the game.Same here
Sir Tokyo Sexwale Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 Stuff like this dont help them,https://vine.co/v/OEiEnEbqzz6 it's so blatantly s*** it does
lammyrider Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) Sako got a red for it tho ;-) Edited March 9, 2015 by lammyrider
Bailo Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 Sick of them trying to act as a handicap element in the FA Cup this year. Letting alehouse challenges go because the player committing it is s***.
Ibby Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 That d****ead Watford player should get 6 games for that and fined a s***load
Sir Tokyo Sexwale Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 Sako got a red for it tho ;-) Oh my god he did!! The ref should be banned too
Nerik Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) The issue in the Sako case is not just the refs but the now "accepted" culture that trying to get someone sent off is ok. Players and managers are hypocrites when they complain about the decisions when they then encourage the same thing from their own team. Edited March 10, 2015 by Nerik
Sir Tokyo Sexwale Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Thing is the other guy should get banned for it, a long ban too
Maldini Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 There isn't one good ref around these days, they're all bandstanding gobs***es. The standard has dropped hugely since Mike Reed took over. No surprise really as he was f***ing terrible himself.
Swan Red Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 has there ever been any really good refs, Clive Thomas I don't think counts
cymrococh Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Sick of them trying to act as a handicap element in the FA Cup this year. Letting alehouse challenges go because the player committing it is s***.There's far too much creating or facilitating of narratives going on rather than just refereeing incidents. Doesn't help that commentators fall for it as well so most people talking about football are obsessed with 'fairness' and things 'evening out' etc. The argument that refs' authority will be compromised by technology is totes ridic, surely the fact that players will know that their decisions are backed up by proof rather than subjective judgement will make them even more authoritative.
Cobs Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 has there ever been any really good refs, Clive Thomas I don't think counts Durkin was decent Oliver had a good game last night
Swan Red Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Durkin was decent Oliver had a good game last night Oliver did and I don't recall much of Durkin outside of the obvious, I think my point is that refs have always been s***, or at least we generally think they are s*** and there's not much that will end this. I'm still in favour of using technology to help them but I doubt we ever get to a point where most football fans think most refs are doing a decent job.
Cobs Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Oliver did and I don't recall much of Durkin outside of the obvious, I think my point is that refs have always been s***, or at least we generally think they are s*** and there's not much that will end this. I'm still in favour of using technology to help them but I doubt we ever get to a point where most football fans think most refs are doing a decent job. deffo and there will still be disputes when technology comes in, which it will eventually [we see in other sports now TMOs making decisions that leave you scratching your head]. Shame there's no proper leadership of FIFA or it would be done already. Obviously the bribes haven't been big enough yet. Durkin was one of those refs who rarely fecked up (and when he did famously got in front of the cameras to admit his error), didn't make a big show of himself and make the game all about him. In the old, old days you still appealed for everything, slagged him off and accused them of bias/blindness depending on the outcome of every game - but there wasn't relentless replays of every incident from multiple angles with slo-mo and all the social media, 24 hour sky sports news, talksport and everything else analysing it all to the nth degree. So when people say refs of today are worse than they've ever been they're probably wrong.
Sir Tokyo Sexwale Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 aye problem is, technology is being used to flame them and not to help them, so what chance do they have. Oliver last night, appears from what I have seen, to have had a blinder
Leo No.8 Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) There isn't one good ref around these days, they're all bandstanding g*******s. The standard has dropped hugely since Mike Reed took over. No surprise really as he was f***ing terrible himself. This explains a lot as he's an eastenders actor who died in 2007. 'Pat, whatavya dan to me Pat'. No way should he be in charge of refereeing. It must be him who approved Lee Mason. On a serous note though yeah Riley was awful. But the reason he became head of refereeing is probably because he awarded a record number of penalties to Manchester United. Ferguson was running everything. Edited March 10, 2015 by Leo No.8
Logic Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Speaking of technology helping refs. Goalline Tech used two times in 11min in a game in Eredivisie (I think). http://a.pomf.se/elqmpv.mp4
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