Bolton (a) in the Cup

[David Hodgson]

Think we might see :

 

Mignolet

 

Johnson

Skrtel

Lovren

 

Manquillo

Allen

Henderson

Markovic

 

Lallana

Gerrard

Borini

[Cobs]

would you expect Gerrard to start in the derby ?

he's had special boots made and everything

[honourablegeorge]

would you expect Gerrard to start in the derby ?

he's had special boots made and everything

 

 

There's be an unbearable hoohah if he didn't start his last ever derby - not that hoohah is somethign that should influence team selection.

 

Hoohah.

[Earl Hafler]

If its Lallana and Gerrard behind a striker then i think the right mid needs to be quicker, more offensive than Manquillo. Didn't get round the back of their defence enough last time

[Conrad]

Id like to see a stronger starting XI, and give Gerrard no more than 60. One of Sterling or Coutinho to start - again, hopefully for no more than 60.

[The_Adder]

A real shame that Ibe is cup-tied, would have been the perfect game for him.

 

Wouldnt be surprised to see any Manquillo and Jose as the wingbacks for this one. Johnson and Lovren in the back three.

Id like to see a stronger starting XI, and give Gerrard no more than 60. One of Sterling or Coutinho to start - again, hopefully for no more than 60.

 

Gerrard and the derby, you'd think he has to start with it being his last one, but will he and should he?

[rednotdead]

A real shame that Ibe is cup-tied, would have been the perfect game for him.

 

Wouldnt be surprised to see any Manquillo and Jose as the wingbacks for this one. Johnson and Lovren in the back three.

 

Gerrard and the derby, you'd think he has to start with it being his last one, but will he and should he?

It may not be his last derby - or even his last this season.

[Red Yoda]

-----------------Mignolet

-----------Can Skrtel Sakho

Markovic Allen Henderson Moreno

---------Lallana--------Coutinho

------------------Sterling

 

Bench

 

Ward Manquillo Lovren Johnson Lucas Borini Sturrridge

[David Hodgson]

would you expect Gerrard to start in the derby ?

he's had special boots made and everything

If, as BR suggested today, that he isn't in a rush to start Sturridge, then yeah, Gerrard starts the derby, but then maybe he doesn't start Vs Spurs next Tuesday. i could see him starting Bolton and Everton and potentially getting a mini rest either side of those two games. Suppose much comes down to this niggling hamstring issue.

-----------------Mignolet

-----------Can Skrtel Sakho

Markovic Allen Henderson Moreno

---------Lallana--------Coutinho

------------------Sterling

 

Bench

 

Ward Manquillo Lovren Johnson Lucas Borini Sturrridge

Yeah.

 

That just won't happen.

[McBain]

Can see Lucas and raheem to the bench as only changes from Saturday

[Case]

It may not be his last derby - or even his last this season.

How's that, now?

[Gunga Din]

i really hate seeing Joe Allen in the team. a nothing player who adds nothing

[David Hodgson]

How's that, now?

loaned back next season potentially.

[Cobs]

How's that, now?

 

Europa League

[Chewie]

 

Europa League

 

oooh A Gerrard hat-trick as we win 3-2...

[Hassony]

i really hate seeing Joe Allen in the team. a nothing player who adds nothing

 

yep, he's the player that I like the least in our squad

[Will]

Down Memory Lane

 

After our goalless first encounter, YNWA looks back at the eight previous occasions on which the reds have been drawn against the Trotters in the FA Cup as we prepare to visit them for our Fourth Round replay on Wednesday. We have only progressed on two of those occasions to date.

 

First encounter

We lost a Third Round tie 3-0 at Bolton’s old Pike’s Lane ground in February 1894 as the two sides met for the first time in an official fixture.

 

Trebles for and against

Centre-forward Jimmy Walsh grabbed a treble as we came from behind to win a Second Round tie 4-1 at holders Bolton. Harry ‘Smiler’ Chambers also notched as we progressed as far as the Fourth Round that season before being knocked out by Newcastle United. John Smith struck one of his seven goals against the reds.

 

Bolton inflicted our worst ever FA Cup defeat on us as we lost 5-0 at Burnden Park in a Fourth Round first leg match in January 1946, with keeper Alf Hobson playing his 28th and last reds game. Ray Westwood grabbed a hat-trick, one of only two we have ever conceded in the FA Cup and the last of his nine strikes past us, with the legendary Nat Lofthouse bagging the first two of his eight goals against the reds. The second leg resulted in a 2-0 reds win with left-back Eddie Spicer debuting. Jack Balmer and Berry Nieuwenhuys bagged our goals.

 

Most recently

We were held 2-2 at Second Division Bolton Wanderers in January 1993, with our goals coming from Ian Rush and a Mark Winstanley own goal, with John McGinlay and ex-red Mark Seagraves netting for the home side. We lost the Anfield replay 2-0. McGinlay nodded the visitors in front inside three minutes, with Andy Walker scoring the second with his head late on. Robbie Fowler made the bench for the first time, while Michael Thomas was ruled out for the rest of the season after snapping an Achilles tendon.

 

Off the mark

After a goalless meeting at Anfield in January 1929, we lost a Fourth Round replay 5-2 at Burnden Park after extra time. John Lindsay grabbed the first of his three reds goals with Gordon Hodgson also on target. Harold Blackmore netted two of his five goals past us, with George Gibson also bagging one of his five against the reds and Jim McClelland and Billy Butler also scoring.

 

Heading to Wembley

A late Ian Callaghan header was enough to hand us victory at Bolton Wanderers as we reached the Sixth Round in February 1965, en route to winning the trophy for the first time. The wooden railing behind the goal collapsed under the pressure of a crowd surge after our goal, but play was not stopped.

 

Other meetings

We were knocked in the Fifth Round at Anfield, losing 3-0 in February 1934. Jack Milsom scored the last of his seven goals past us, with Ray Westwood nabbing one of his nine against the reds and George Taylor also on target. We lost 1-0 at Burnden Park in the Third Round in January 1954, a week after our previous game, a 2-1 top-flight defeat to the same side at Anfield. Willie Moir struck the last of his five goals against the reds.

[sutty]

Has anybody not had their tickets through yet?

[yellow jumper]

gerrard should be first and at the forefront of the effort to win both of the cups we're still in, and maybe sit out a few more of the league games. seems an obvious, and opportune way of balancing the motivation, leadership experience and ability he still has with the fact that he's arguably not in our current best xi and physically probably can't play every game at his best level anyway.

[Will]

Double Agents

 

YNWA looks at the careers of those who have played for both Bolton Wanderers and the reds ahead of our FA Cup Fourth Round replay on Wednesday.

 

Current double agents

Daniel Sturridge signed from Chelsea for £12m in January 2013, so far netting an impressive 37 times in 53 reds games as well as suffering from a series of injuries. He bagged eight goals in twelve outings after moving on loan to the Reebok from Chelsea in January 2011, as well as receiving the first red card of his career.

 

Emile Heskey arrived from Leicester City for a then club record £10.5m in March 2000, and struck sixty goals in 223 reds games, helping us to claim the UEFA Cup, FA Cup, two League Cups, UEFA Super Cup and FA Charity Shield in his four years at Anfield. He moved to Birmingham City for £6.25m in May 2004. He signed for Bolton last December after a successful trial, so far notching once in six outings.

 

Jay Spearing graduated to Melwood in the summer of 2007 after captaining the reds as they retained the FA Youth Cup that May. He made 55 senior appearances without finding the back of the net, moving on to Bolton Wanderers in August 2013 after a season on loan with the Trotters. He has netted five times in 108 games, becoming club captain but joined Blackburn Rovers on loan after coming off the bench in the first game at Anfield.

 

Other recent double agents

David N’Gog was sold to Bolton Wanderers for £4m in August 2011, having netted nineteen goals in 94 reds games since his £1.5m capture from Paris Saint-Germain in July 2008, although he only started on 41 of those occasions. He struck sixteen times in 91 outings for the Trotters before signing for Stade de Reims last September. Stephen Warnock played 67 reds games, notching once, before moving to Blackburn Rovers in January 2007 for £1.5m, although he moved on to Aston Villa in August 2009. He joined Bolton on loan from the Villains in September 2012, turning out fifteen times.

 

Young midfielder Danny Guthrie spent the 2007/08 season on loan from Anfield with Bolton having played seven senior reds games. He made 35 appearances for the Trotters, notching his only goal on his debut, a 2-1 Carling Cup win at Fulham in September 2007. He left the reds to sign for Newcastle United for £2.5m in July 2008. El-Hadji Diouf struck six goals in eighty reds games following his £10m signing from Racing Club de Lens in June 2002. He spent one season on loan with the Trotters, before moving permanently in June 2005 for £4.5m to become their record signing. He bagged a total of 24 goals in 136 games for Wanderers, moving on to Sunderland for £2.5m in July 2008.

 

The management

Sammy Lee netted nineteen goals in 295 reds games, helping us to win two European Cups, four League titles, four League Cups and the FA Charity Shield. Bolton was his final club as a player, although he made just four first-team appearances while at Burnden Park. He returned to Anfield to join the coaching staff in 1992, remaining a great servant of the club until he left in July 2004 to join the England set-up full-time. However, he moved back into club football a year later, working as Sam Allardyce’s Assistant Manager at the Reebok Stadium before having a fourteen-game spell in the hot seat, before leaving by mutual consent in October 2007, along with Frank McParland, who had been on the reds coaching staff from 1995 until joining Sammy at Bolton in the summer. Sammy returned to his spiritual home in May 2008 when he was named as Rafa’s new Assistant Manager, a post he also held under Roy Hodgson and Kenny Dalglish, before leaving by mutual consent in June 2011.

 

Phil Neal was a true reds legend, netting 59 times in 650 games and winning countless honours. He became Bolton Player/Manager in December 1985, staying in charge until he was sacked in May 1992. He led them to the Freight Rover Trophy Final in his first season in charge, before the Trotters were relegated to the basement division the next year, but immediately bounced back into the Third Division. However, he could not lead them any higher, despite twice making the play-offs. He also helped them to claim the Sherpa Van Trophy in 1989.

 

Centre back Colin Irwin turned professional in November 1974 but only made 44 reds appearances, but one of them was in the 1981 League Cup Final, although he did not get a winners’ medal, as he was left out of the replay. However, he won a European Cup winner’s medal in 1978, despite not seeing any action in our Wembley victory. John Toshack signed him for Swansea City for a club record £340,000 in the summer of 1981. He worked as First Team Coach under Phil Neal at Bolton until the summer of 1987. Frank Brettell was on the reds administrative staff between 1892 and 1896. He then spent two years as Bolton’s Secretary/Manager before becoming Spurs’ first ever boss in March 1898. Dave Galley worked as a physio at the Reebok in 2007, and had two spells at Melwood.

 

George Kay started his career at Bolton, playing just three times before becoming the first Englishman to captain an Irish League club, at Belfast Celtic. He was later skipper of West Ham United as they lost to Bolton in the famous ‘white horse’ FA Cup Final of 1923. He arrived at Anfield in August 1936 after five years in charge of Southampton, signing Billy Liddell, Bob Paisley and Albert Stubbins. He led us to our fifth League title in 1947, securing a unique quadruple by also claiming the Liverpool Senior Cup, Lancashire Senior Cup and Lancashire County Combination Championship Cup! He also led us to our second FA Cup Final three years later, when we lost out to Arsenal. Unfortunately, he had to step down due to illness in early 1951. Meanwhile, Bill Shankly guested for Wanderers during the Second World War.

 

Up front

Roger Hunt netted 286 goals in 492 reds games, helping us to win two League titles, FA Cup, Second Division title and FA Charity Shield. He moved to Bolton for £33,000 in December 1969, scoring 25 times in 84 games for the Trotters. Peter Beardsley spent four years at Anfield, netting 59 times in 175 reds games, helping us to two League titles, an FA Cup and two FA Charity Shields after signing from Newcastle United for a British record £1.9m fee. He ended his second spell at St. James’s Park to sign for Bolton in August 1997 for £450,000, remaining at Burnden Park for fifteen months, getting on the scoresheet just twice in 21 games as they were relegated from the Premiership.

 

Nicolas Anelka signed on loan at Anfield from Paris Saint-Germain in December 2001. He netted five times in 22 reds games, but was not taken on permanently at the end of the season. He moved to the Reebok from Turkish side Fenerbahçe in a £8m deal in August 2006, and notched 23 times in 61 games before joining Chelsea for £15m in January 2008.

 

Outside-left Peter Thompson signed from Preston North End for £37,000 in August 1963, bagged 54 goals in 416 reds outings, winning two League titles, FA Cup and FA Charity Shield. He joined Wanderers for £18,000 in January 1974, after a brief spell on loan, spending four successful years there. Joe Hewitt signed from Sunderland for £150 in January 1904, striking 74 times in 164 reds games, and was our leading scorer as we won the title in 1906. He moved to Burnden Park in August 1910, but later returned to Anfield to join the coaching staff. Outside-right Dick Edmed signed from Gillingham for £1,800 in January 1926 and netted 46 times in 170 Liverpool games, joining the Trotters in May 1932. Outside-left Alf Hanson signed from Everton in November 1931 and scored 52 goals in 177 reds games before we received a club record £7,500 fee from Chelsea in July 1938, although he returned to guest sixteen times for the reds during the war, bagging another three goals. He also guested for the Trotters in wartime.

 

At the back

Bolton-born Ephraim Longworth played 370 times for the reds without notching after arriving from Clapton Orient in June 1910, going on to be the first red to captain England. He spent eighteen years at Anfield, leading us to two League titles and our first FA Cup Final before joining the coaching staff. He had previously played for his hometown team. Half-back Johnny Wheeler made his Bolton debut against the reds in February 1951, and played in the FA Cup Final in 1953. He bagged eighteen goals in 189 League games before joining his cousin Ronnie Moran at Anfield in September 1956 for a £9,000 fee. He netted 23 times in 177 appearances in our Second Division years, going into the record books for grabbing a four-minute hat-trick in a game against Port Vale in November 1956. He was appointed player-manager of New Brighton in May 1963, but did not take up the post, becoming Assistant Trainer at Bury instead, where he stayed until 1969.

 

Full-back Jack Tennant signed from Torquay United in May 1933 and failed to find the target in his 42 reds games, moving on to Bolton in December 1935, playing 105 times for them before guesting with the reds during the war. Reserves defender Mark Seagraves only managed two senior reds appearances, both in cup games in February 1986. He had a more successful time at Bolton, after signing from Manchester City for £100,000 in September 1990, playing 195 times. Jon Otsemobor had a brief spell on loan at the Reebok Stadium in early 2004, after breaking through at Anfield to appear six times for our first-team. However, he only played once for them.

 

Other double agents

Central midfielder Jason McAteer started out as a professional at Burnden Park, bagging fifteen goals in 145 games, including appearing for the losing side in the 1995 Coca-Cola Cup Final. He switched to Anfield for £4.5m that September, which was their record fee received until Anelka’s move, going on to net six times in 139 reds games, often as a wing-back, before moving to Blackburn Rovers for £4m in January 1999. David Thompson joined Bolton Wanderers from Portsmouth for an undisclosed fee on transfer deadline day in January 2007, but was released four months later after just eight outings. He had scored five times in 56 reds games before moving to Coventry City for £3m in August 2000.

 

Right-half Harry Eastham guested for Wanderers during the Second World War. His career was badly interrupted by the conflict, as he bagged four goals in 68 reds games after signing from Blackpool in February 1936, but he did help us to claim the League title in 1947 before joining Tranmere Rovers in May 1948. Joe Keetley spent time with Bolton before arriving at Anfield via Accrington Stanley for £1,200 in November 1923. He could only make nine reds appearances, netting twice before joining Wolverhampton Wanderers in May 1925. Dietmar Hamann was also briefly a Wanderers player in the summer of 2006 before moving on to Manchester City before the ink was dry on his contract.

[Earl Hafler]

----Johnson-----Skrtel-----Sakho-----

Markovic----Can----Allen----Moreno

-------Lallana------------Gerrard-------

-----------------Sturridge--------------

 

Looking at the fixture list ahead, i'd rest Hendo, Sterling and Coutinho. Give Sturridge an hour, Gerrard seventy.

 

Off out for a drink - even typing Johnson and Skrtel together has given me the shakes...

[Conrad]

fully expect Gerrard to start tonight and saturday

[muleskinner]

fully expect Gerrard to start tonight and saturday

its tomorrow

[DJS]

He's stood outside the away end waiting for the turnstiles to open,

[Dan]

fully expect Gerrard to start tonight and saturday

 

Doubt he'll start two in four days.