épieur Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) I know a decade ago we all fantasised about the mainstay of our team 10 years on. And it probably looked something like this: KirklandOtsemobor-Wright-Medjani-VignalPartridge-Welsh-Gerrard-WarnockLe tallec-Sinama-PongolleKirkland is now 32, the prime age for a keeper. He plays for Sheffield Wednesday in the Championship. He got that one cap for England so he dad could cash his bet. Otsemobor is 30, a great age for a defender. He is still at Merseyside, currently playing for Tranmere Rovers, on loan from Milton Keynes, in League 1. Never capped.Vignal is 32, another experienced craft defender. He plays in the fourth division of French football for Beziers. He's payed for 14 different clubs in his career. Never capped.Wright, aged 33 and the old boy at the back by now, plays for Wrexham in the Conference. Never capped. His highest honour was once likened to Tony Adams by John Barnes.Medjani, aged 28, plays for Olympiacos and has managed no less than 24 caps for Algeria. Missed the world cup though. Partridge, 33 (and thus perhaps getting a bit too old to star in our team now) went through 10 clubs before retiring two years ago. He now works at the Liverpool FC academy as a physiotherapist. Never capped.Stephen Warnock, aged 32, plays for Leeds in the championship. He's been capped twice for England and in fact went to the 2010 World Cup with them.John Welsh is 29 and as such the perfect age to be our midfield general and probably captain of the side. He plies his trade at Preston North End in League 1, where he was voted Player of the Year and Players' Player of the Year (for the club, not the league) last season. Never capped.Gerrard, 33, is the captain of LFC and England, won numerous honours and capped 108 times for England.Le Tallec now 29 and thus the experienced creative fulcrum of the team by now, plays for plays for Valenciennes FC in Ligue 1. Never capped.Sinama-Pongolle is also 29 and so likewise in the prime of his goalscoring career. He plays for FC Rostov in the Russian top division, after a tour of Europe's top divisions, having played in the top divisions in Spain, Portugal, France and England. He has in fact managed a cap for France, in 2008. Edited December 12, 2013 by epieur
matty Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) Welsh as captain, but Gerrard still there? Edited December 12, 2013 by matty
David Hodgson Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 On 12/12/2013 at 14:42, epieur said: I know a decade ago we all fantasised about the mainstay of our team 10 years on. And it probably looked something like this: KirklandOtsemobor-Wright-Medjani-VignalPartridge-Welsh-Gerrard-WarnockLe tallec-Sinama-PongolleKirkland is now 32, the prime age for a keeper. He plays for Sheffield Wednesday in the Championship. He got that one cap for England so he dad could cash his bet. Otsemobor is 30, a great age for a defender. He is still at Merseyside, currently playing for Tranmere Rovers, on loan from Milton Keynes, in League 1. Never capped.Vignal is 32, another experienced craft defender. He plays in the fourth division of French football for Beziers. He's payed for 14 different clubs in his career. Never capped.Wright, aged 33 and the old boy at the back by now, plays for Wrexham in the Conference. Never capped. His highest honour was once likened to Tony Adams by John Barnes.Medjani, aged 28, plays for Olympiacos and has managed no less than 24 caps for Algeria. Missed the world cup though. Partridge, 33 (and thus perhaps getting a bit too old to star in our team now) went through 10 clubs before retiring two years ago. He now works at the Liverpool FC academy as a physiotherapist. Never capped.Stephen Warnock, aged 32, plays for Leeds in the championship. He's been capped twice for England and in fact went to the 2010 World Cup with them.John Welsh is 29 and as such the perfect age to be our midfield general and probably captain of the side. He plies his trade at Preston North End in League 1, where he was voted Player of the Year and Players' Player of the Year (for the club, not the league) last season. Never capped.Gerrard, 33, is the captain of LFC and England, won numerous honours and capped 108 times for England.Le Tallec now 29 and thus the experienced creative fulcrum of the team by now, plays for plays for Valenciennes FC in Ligue 1. Never capped.Sinama-Pongolle is also 29 and so likewise in the prime of his goalscoring career. He plays for FC Rostov in the Russian top division, after a tour of Europe's top divisions, having played in the top divisions in Spain, Portugal, France and England. He has in fact managed a cap for France, in 2008. No we didn't. No one thought we had a golden generation in that era. Gerrard aside, there were high hopes for Partridge, and Welsh was the Spearing of that era, but no one was getting too excited. Not sure how you get Gerrard and the french 'gems' in the same team. Gerrard had been in our first team about 4 years by the time they arrived.
Conrad Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 On 12/12/2013 at 14:42, epieur said: I know a decade ago we all fantasised about the mainstay of our team 10 years on. And it probably looked something like this: KirklandOtsemobor-Wright-Medjani-VignalPartridge-Welsh-Gerrard-WarnockLe tallec-Sinama-Pongolle[*] Thats a golden generation? Take Gerrard out of it and that side would struggle in division 4
Sir Tokyo Sexwale Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 interesting stuff all the same though DH Enjoyed this
Tones Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 On 12/12/2013 at 15:01, Macca said: interesting stuff all the same though DH Enjoyed thisYeah good to find out where they all ended up
David Hodgson Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) On 12/12/2013 at 15:01, Macca said: interesting stuff all the same though DH Enjoyed this Oh yeah. Marvellous stuff. :)/> PS apologies to Eipur, that did read as though I was calling you a c***. No offence intended. Edited December 12, 2013 by David Hodgson
cymrococh Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 David Raven is at Inverness Cally ThistleIan Armstrong retired at 23, after a few years at Port ValeLee Peltier is at Leeds, was captain last season.Jon Newby is Player-Manager of Colwyn Bay
Stevie H Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 gregory vignal has never played more than 30 games for any club throughout his career.
Sir Tokyo Sexwale Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 On 12/12/2013 at 15:14, David Hodgson said: Oh yeah. Marvellous stuff. :)/>/> PS apologies to Eipur, that did read as though I was calling you a c***. No offence intended. oh he is a c*** mind, so that's fine
David Hodgson Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 And Alou Diarra is turning tricks just off the Reeperbahn.
Kvarme Ate My Food Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 Adam Pepper plays in the Conference now.
Cobs Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 On 12/12/2013 at 15:20, Stevie H said: gregory vignal has never played more than 30 games for any club throughout his career. I remember his home league debut v West Ham - marked a then forum favourite Freddie Kanoute out of the game - thought he was gonna be a star...
Stevie H Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 On 12/12/2013 at 15:24, Cobs said: I remember his home league debut v West Ham - marked a then forum favourite Freddie Kanoute out of the game - thought he was gonna be a star...he was the new lizarazu.
Swan Red Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 hehe was it him that came on and got taken off in Russia? Biscan was involved somewhere. I thought him and Riise would nail the left side for a while, f*** me.
cymrococh Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 On 12/12/2013 at 15:24, Kvarme Ate My Food said: Adam Pepper plays in the Conference now.So misunderstood.
matty Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 Jan Kromkamp has just won Holland's version of the X factor.
Cobs Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 On 12/12/2013 at 15:36, matty said: Jan Kromkamp has just won Holland's version of the X factor. for sure?
honourablegeorge Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) Hadn't thought about Kirkland in a while. Given his massive fee (for his position), the fact that we didn't need him as we'd already signed a keeper that day, his made-from-balsa skeleton that rendered him unfit for almost his entire time at the club, and the fact that he was utterly, hopelessly, totally useless at actually catching or blocking footballs, I think he has to be in with a shout of being the worst signing ever at the club. I mean Andy Carroll was horrendous, but he was, at least a player we needed, had some potential, and even showed some quality while he was here, and we recouped some cash. Kirkland, I can see no redeeming features whatsoever. Edited December 12, 2013 by honourablegeorge
Bootle Buck Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 On 12/12/2013 at 15:42, honourablegeorge said: Hadn't thought about Kirkland in a while. Given his massive fee (for his position), the fact that we didn't need him as we'd already signed a keeper that day, his made-from-balsa skeleton that rendered him unfit for almost his entire time at the club, and the fact that he was utterly, hopelessly, totally useless at actually catching or blocking footballs, I think he has to be in with a shout of being the worst signing ever at the club. I mean Andy Carroll was horrendous, but he was, at least a player we needed, had some potential, and even showed some quality while he was here, and we recouped some cash. Kirkland, I can see no redeeming features whatsoever. Scott Carson must also be one of the worst signings.
honourablegeorge Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 On 12/12/2013 at 15:54, Bootle Buck said: Scott Carson must also be one of the worst signings. Yeah, but he cost less, and played a part, albeit a limited one, while he was here.
cymrococh Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 On 12/12/2013 at 16:00, honourablegeorge said: Yeah, but he cost less, and played a part, albeit a limited one, while he was here.He made at least one save, which makes him a 100% improvement on Kirkland.
épieur Posted December 12, 2013 Author Posted December 12, 2013 didn't we make a tidy profit on Carson?
cymrococh Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 On 12/12/2013 at 16:01, epieur said: didn't we make a tidy profit on Carson?Think we recouped what we paid in loan fees alone.
honourablegeorge Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 On 12/12/2013 at 16:01, epieur said: didn't we make a tidy profit on Carson? Signed for $750k, sold for £3.25M, and won a CL medal, having played in the QF against Juventus. Not sure you can ask more from a reserve keeper.
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