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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25183301

 

 

 

 

Fears someone will die due to rising use of flares in stadiums

By David Ornstein BBC Sport Comments (335) Children as young as eight are being used as "mules" to smuggle flares and smoke bombs into Premier League matches, according to new research.

 

A survey found a third of supporters have been directly affected by pyrotechnics at a stadium and that 86% are concerned for their safety.

 

Use or possession of such devices in grounds can lead to bans or prison, and an education drive has been launched.

 

Policing minister Damian Green has said "someone could get killed".

 

 

Clubs involved in three or more incidents with flares in 2013-14

5: Everton, Manchester United, Wigan Athletic

 

4: Liverpool, Manchester City, Sheffield United

 

3: Bradford City, Bristol City, Burnley, Charlton Athletic, Leeds United, Mansfield Town, Nottingham Forest, Oldham Athletic

 

Source: UK Football Policing Unit

 

In the first three months of this season, there were 96 pyrotechnic incidents across the Premier League, Football League, Football Conference and domestic cup competitions.

 

For the whole of 2012-13 that figure was 172, a steep increase from 72 during the previous campaign and just eight a year earlier.

 

Last season saw 71 arrests for 'possession of a firework/flare at a sporting event', an increase of 154% on the 2011-12 season.

 

The Premier League-commissioned survey of 1,635 supporters found more than half of fans had witnessed pyrotechnics at a match, 24% had had their view obscured, 10% had suffered from smoke inhalation and 2% had been affected by heat from a flare.

 

"It's the biggest concern we've got among fans at the moment," Cathy Long, head of supporter services at the Premier League, told BBC Sport.

 

"There have been incidents across the world where people have had bad injuries or died. We've been lucky that our leagues haven't had such major issues yet, but we want to stop that from happening."

 

_71483876_falkirkflare.jpg The pitch at Falkirk was damaged by a flare thrown in Saturday's Scottish Cup tie with Rangers

 

A worrying trend exposed by the research was of children being used as "mules" to bring pyrotechnics into grounds on behalf of others.

 

It claims that at one Premier League match last season, an eight-year-old entered the stadium with pyrotechnics in his rucksack and was seen passing them to members of an adult group who let them off.

 

"A lot of supporters may be unaware that the use or possession of pyrotechnics is actually illegal and the ultimate sanction is prison," said Football Supporters' Federation caseworker Amanda Jacks.

 

Two-thirds of parents said increased use of pyrotechnics was putting them off bringing their children, a feeling Ruth Maddocks can relate to.

 

Her eight-year-old son James was in the Everton section at Liverpool last season, but missed the action after being struck by a smoke bomb.

 

"It was before the game and the players had all just come out on to the pitch," she told BBC Sport.

 

"Everyone was standing up so my son was standing on the chair. My husband just heard James saying 'ouch!' and on the back of his neck he could see a really big red mark but ash still burning away at his skin.

 

"My husband flicked it off and then took James to be treated by St John Ambulance, who put some gel on it and a plaster. He came back to the seat but it was such a shake-up for him he couldn't stay."

 

More commonly associated with overseas football stadiums, the use of pyrotechnics is a relatively new phenomenon in English football.

 

"The European influence is very, very strong," Jacks added. "I've no doubt people think pyro creates a better atmosphere and enhances supporting their team. Whether or not that's true, it's illegal. They might end up seeing Christmas inside a cell."

 

 

Offenders jailed and banned

November 2013: A Manchester United fan who set off a smoke bomb during the match at West Bromwich Albion - Sir Alex Ferguson's last game in charge - was given a two-month jail term, suspended for 12 months, and banned from all football grounds for three years.

 

February 2013: Two Chelsea fans were jailed for 28 days and given six-year football banning orders for taking smoke bombs into a match at Swansea City.

 

January 2013: An Exeter City fan was jailed for two months and given a six-year banning order for attempting to take a smoke bomb into a match at Torquay United.

 

August 2012: An Oxford United fan was jailed for two months and given a six-year banning order for taking a smoke bomb into a match at Plymouth Argyle.

 

In October, Fifa began disciplinary proceedings against the England and Poland Football Associations after flares, which burn at temperatures of 1,600C (the melting point of steel) were lit during a World Cup qualifier at Wembley.

 

Earlier that month, assistant referee David Bryan was hit by a flare during a match between Aston Villa and Tottenham at Villa Park.

 

A 15-year-old boy suffered lung damage from a smoke bomb thrown during Villa's trip to Wigan in May, and in February a 14-year-old boy was killed by a flare thrown during a match in Bolivia.

 

A man whose father was killed by a flare at a World Cup qualifier between Wales and Romania in 1993 says "nothing has been learnt" from the tragedy, while the Scottish FA hopes to eradicate their use following two incidents last Saturday.

 

"These people don't care about the consequences - they think it's a laugh," said Dave Lewis, head of security at Everton.

 

"It's not a laugh and the consequences are dire."

 

The government-backed campaign aims to tackle the problem with pyrotechnic detection dogs, amnesty bins, an advertising campaign and improved camera surveillance and body searches.

 

 

 

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Do you like Pyro?

 

 

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I do like it yeah, but they are clearly dangerous as currently used so there can't be any complaints really.

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i do. I dont like em being thrown. Like the blert at spurs. Dont fancy two months in prison and a six year banning order either.

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In 2002 v Bayer Leverkusen in the CL I was standing at the back of the Kop when someone let off a flare, he s*** himself and dropped it next to me, when it burned my pants. Needless to say I also s*** myself.

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  On 03/12/2013 at 15:01, Aunty-N.W.A said:

In 2002 v Bayer Leverkusen in the CL I was standing at the back of the Kop when someone let off a flare, he s*** himself and dropped it next to me, when it burned my pants. Needless to say I also s*** myself.

 

To make it even more terrifying, you're so young, you'd probably have been in short pants in 2002 smile.gif

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  On 03/12/2013 at 14:45, Bigal said:

I agree with you kop205

 

there was one at Newcastle this season, scared the s*** out of me.

I was about 20/30 yards from that bang and it scared the life out of me.

 

Must have temporarily deafened anyone close by.

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The one at Fulham was dead funny, mainly because the stewards panicked I suppose. It's a shame they're so dangerous really, I like 'em!

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  On 03/12/2013 at 16:58, Duncan Disorderly said:

They're used all over Europe, aren't they? Has anyone ever died? A vast over-reaction, if not. Typical H&SGM.

 

Not entirely sure you are being serious here but I'll work on the basis that you are.

 

A 14 year old died in Bolivia earlier this year.

 

They clearly have the potential to cause serious injury or death - do we have to wait for it to happen here? (I'm not 'counting' the fella at the Wales game all those years ago as I think that was a rocket).

 

They look boss, I think they really add atmosphere, but that isn't anywhere near enough reason to say they should be allowed.

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Meh - they look good but are a bit dangerous. But I'm not in a massive panic about the issue.

 

This was the top news story on R5 when I was driving to work this morning. Must have been a slow news day.

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  On 03/12/2013 at 16:58, Duncan Disorderly said:

They're used all over Europe, aren't they? Has anyone ever died? A vast over-reaction, if not. Typical H&SGM.

 

They're illegal in most countries in Europe too. In Sweden the league fines every club at whose ground the pyro is used, every game it happens. Not that it puts the lads off obviously but the police are getting better at searching for them.

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People who use the phrase 'No **** No Party' are generally tw*ts anyway.

 

Flares have never been necessary for an atmosphere. It's a shame the fans can't create one themselves nowadays.

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Hand held, compressed air confetti cannons are the way forward. All of the twinkle in any colour you desire with a lot of the risks taken out.

 

Be safe out there people.

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  On 03/12/2013 at 16:58, Duncan Disorderly said:

They're used all over Europe, aren't they? Has anyone ever died? A vast over-reaction, if not. Typical H&SGM.

Apart from the two mentioned in the report above?

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  On 04/12/2013 at 13:18, Tommy Cockles said:

And on the way out.

 

Seriously though, Wigan? More than us? Really?

 

At Wigan it isnt for atmosphere, it is used as a distress signal to save them from that c*** Whelan. Telling the story of the cup final and how he broke his leg.

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