Ferguson, the FA and his 'man on the inside'

[DJS]

Not linking this, but it's from the Mail....

 

Fergie's FA inside man

 

Sir Alex Ferguson - who has been asked for an explanation by the FA following his rant about assistant referee Simon Beck after United's 1-1 draw at Tottenham on Sunday - has the advantage of Old Trafford club secretary John Alexander being an independent member of the FA disciplinary panel.

 

Alexander may not sit on any cases involving the Premier League but his insider knowledge of FA cases gives him a head start in the initial correspondence defending Fergie for claiming Beck had a 'shocking game' and suggesting he had a 'history' of making decisions costly to United.

 

The FA say they are happy to have Alexander on the panel - as they were when he was previously at Spurs - and do not regard this as a conflict of interests, although the 57-year-old executive is the only official from a Premier League club on the judicial roster.

[mally]

CORRUPTION!!!

Edited January 23, 2013 by mally

[Stevie H]

it's nice the way they ask him for an explanation though. how would you like us to report on this in your favour sir alex, nod, bow, scrape, fawn, doff cap. him and comments about officials is scholes and horrific fouls. ah we know it's wrong but hey, what can you do? it's him isn't it.

[Cobs]

it's nice the way they ask him for an explanation though. how would you like us to report on this in your favour sir alex, nod, bow, scrape, fawn, doff cap. him and comments about officials is scholes and horrific fouls. ah we know it's wrong but hey, what can you do? it's him isn't it.

 

 

and that was 2 days ago - are they charging him or not, ffs?

[CarraLegend]

The ask him to explain thing is absolutely comical. Yeah, the comments really need clarifying as it's so hard to tell from his interview.

 

"He had a really poor game," added Ferguson

 

"There was no way the linesman was going to give that - he gave them everything," fumed Ferguson.

 

"I am disappointed with him [beck] - we have not had a good record with him," Ferguson told BBC Sport.

 

"With Chelsea a couple of years back, he gave onside to Didier Drogba and he was three yards offside. You remember these things because it is in important games and that was an important game."

[smithdown]

If his explanation is "I'm a c*nt" then that'll be the end of it.

[Cobs]

whether they charge him or not Ferguson has basically ensured that guy will never officiate at another Utd game, or if he does he's going to be under trememdous pressure to make key decisions in their favour

 

it's scandalous really

[Stevie H]

"I am disappointed with him [beck] - we have not had a good record with him," Ferguson told BBC Sport.

he covers his a*** amazingly though. leaves it ambiguous. what do you mean? i just meant that we seem to play poorly or get stuff wrong when that lad happens to be on the line. it's our fault of course.

[Woodsyla]

he covers his a*** amazingly though. leaves it ambiguous. what do you mean? i just meant that we seem to play poorly or get stuff wrong when that lad happens to be on the line. it's our fault of course.

"There was no way the linesman was going to give that - he gave them everything," fumed Ferguson.

 

That's not exactly ambiguous though. If Allardyce gets it for what he said why does Ferguson get a discussion.

 

He's suggesting the linesman was not impartial. It's f***ing unreal this.

[StevieC]

whether they charge him or not Ferguson has basically ensured that guy will never officiate at another Utd game, or if he does he's going to be under trememdous pressure to make key decisions in their favour

 

it's scandalous really

 

 

Which is why any comment, no matter how innocuous, should be clamped down on.

 

The mad old f*cker is already on a suspended ban for this stuff - throw the book at him...

[Ed the Wool]

If his explanation is "I'm a c*nt" then that'll be the end of it.

 

[Cobs]

Which is why any comment, no matter how innocuous, should be clamped down on.

 

The mad old f*cker is already on a suspended ban for this stuff - throw the book at him...

 

 

thought his suspended was invoked after the last time he got done?

[growler]

Nothing will happen. Allardyce Mancini Martinez all been done as precedent but he'll get away with it.

 

The corruption is no longer hidden, it's public knowledge.

 

Even when Suarez went public with the power the Mancs have in the press it got buried.

 

Nothing can be done about it.

[aka Dus]

Decision on how best to release the info that they aren't doing anything to be made today I think?

[dorgie]

Decision on how best to release the info that they aren't doing anything to be made today I think?

 

They've just charged Hazard with violent conduct. Expect Ferguson to not be charged and it to be published in Arial Size 2 somewhere obscure on their website.

[Flasher]

Ferguson is definitely the victim in all this, he says so, it must be true.

[Bogman]

FA charge Slur for his comments after the spurs game.

 

[Epic Swindle]

Gill won't be happy.

[Ed the Wool]

FA charge Slur for his comments after the spurs game.

 

 

They can still let him off. Believe it when I see it.

[AE]

FA charge Slur for his comments after the spurs game.

 

 

Seriously??

Did they get the wrong name in their press release??

[Cobs]

so why has it taken a fortnight? Why have they not meted out a punishment? They've already asked for his comments, they've taken a week to read the 400,000 word document Ferguson wrote explaining himself and decided it's not good enough. What else are these pricks waiting for ?

 

 

JUST BAN THE OLD GIT!

[dorgie]

so why has it taken a fortnight? Why have they not meted out a punishment? They've already asked for his comments, they've taken a week to read the 400,000 word document Ferguson wrote explaining himself and decided it's not good enough. What else are these pricks waiting for ?

 

 

JUST BAN THE OLD GIT!

 

He'll get a warning about his future behaviour. Again.

[Cobs]

http://www.amustwingame.com/2013/01/sir-alex-ferguson-life-of-bans-fines-part-three.html

 

 

April 2003

Fined £4,600 by UEFA after alleging that the Champions League draw was fixed in favour of Spanish and Italian teams. He said: "Real Madrid - they have a nice draw, they must have picked it themselves. The Spanish and Italian teams don't play each other, how do you think they work that one? They don't want us in the final, that's for sure."

 

October 2003

Given a two-match touchline ban and fined £10,000 by the FA after being found guilty of improper conduct and using foul and abusive language towards fourth official Jeff Winter during

. Ferguson had been sent to the stands by referee Uriah Rennie following the heated exchange.

 

November 2003

Escapes disciplinary action after accusing the FA of 'doing a deal' with Arsenal over punishments handed out to their players following the Battle of Old Trafford. He also claimed that there are 'ambitious people' at the FA, who want to use Manchester United's name to 'make a name for themselves'.

 

December 2003

Criticises referee Alan Wiley for awarding a penalty against his side at Stamford Bridge. He remarks: "The referee didn't see it, he guessed it. This is the same referee, remember, who refused us a certain penalty ... against Manchester City last season."

 

February 2004

Accuses Jeff Winter of allowing a fracas to develop during

, resulting in Gary Neville being sent off. Ferguson describes it as 'an absolutely ridiculous bit of refereeing'.

 

April 2004

Slams the FA before they hand out a three-match ban to Paul Scholes for violent conduct. He comments: "There is a scenario for every club in the country and another one for us. We expect Paul to have a difficult hearing. Put it this way, I don't think he will get the same hearing as other players get."

 

May 2004

Takes aim at referee Rob Styles for dismissing Darren Fletcher and Cristiano Ronaldo on the final day of the season at Aston Villa. He says: "How can you analyse that? When people watch it on TV, they will laugh. It was bewildering."

 

December 2004

Brands the FA's disciplinary procedure as 'completely flawed, immoral and unfair' after Wayne Rooney is given a three-match ban for shoving Bolton's Tal Ben Haim in the face.

 

April 2005

Describes Phil Dowd as 'a weak referee' following a 1-0 defeat at Everton.

 

July 2005

Warned as to his future conduct by the FA after alleging in April that there may be a 'sinister' reason as to why United have been awarded few penalties recently. He added: "It is getting ridiculous now. One of our players will need to get shot for us to get one."

 

December 2005

Claims that referee Howard Webb's decision-making was influenced by the home crowd's booing of Cristiano Ronaldo in a 2-2 draw with Birmingham at St Andrew's. However, Ferguson is not charged by the FA.

 

January 2006

• Criticises Rob Styles after a draw at home with Everton. He remarks: "We maybe could have had a penalty [in the game], but there's no way Rob Styles was ever going to give us a penalty." However, Ferguson escapes punishment.

 

• Blasts referee Steve Bennett in the tunnel at half-time during

. He allegedly calls Bennett 'a f**king cheating b*****d' and claims that the official will 'need a police escort out of here at full-time'. Again, the FA take no action.

 

• Gary Neville is charged with improper conduct for celebrating a late United winner at home to Liverpool in front of the away fans. When asked whether the FA would have acted if Neville played for another club, Ferguson replies: "No chance, absolutely not."

 

• Attacks UEFA for charging Cristiano Ronaldo with making an offensive gesture to Benfica supporters in a Champions League match. He says: "Ronaldo took a lot of stick that night. But maybe UEFA don't realise things and think that fans can do whatever they like."

 

November 2006

Questions the decision of referees' supremo Keith Hackett to meet with Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho, following criticism of official Graham Poll by the Portuguese. Ferguson comments: "Does Hackett ever go to meet Arsene Wenger, or Rafa Benitez, or this old guy here? Is there preference going out to Chelsea? It seems ludicrous."

 

April 2007

Accuses German referee Herbert Fandel of being biased after a Champions League defeat to Roma. He says: "Considering we played with 10 men, mostly against 12 men for an hour, it's a good result for us. I don't think we got a decision all night."

 

Paul Scholes is dismissed during the match for two bookable offences. Ferguson adds: "In a big game like that, a good referee would not have sent him off."

 

August 2007

Takes another swipe at Steve Bennett - this time, for showing a red card to Cristiano Ronaldo at Portsmouth. He remarks: "Steve Bennett sent him off at Manchester City [January 2006] and he will have loved the opportunity to send him off again."

 

September 2007

When Herbert Fandel is appointed to officiate United's Champions League clash with Sporting Lisbon, Ferguson amusingly asks: "Have we got a supply of Mogadon?"

 

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November 2007

Avoids an FA charge after claiming that Howard Webb 'at times ... favoured Arsenal' during a 2-2 draw at the Emirates.

 

December 2007

Given a two-match touchline ban and fined £5,000 for using foul and abusive language towards referee Mark Clattenburg during a game against Bolton. Ferguson had been sent to the stands following a half-time rant at the official.

 

After the 1-0 defeat, the United boss said: "I told the referee what I thought - some referees don't like it. They don't like the truth. But I just told him how bad he was in the first half."

 

February 2008

Rounds on Clattenburg again - this time, for the number of yellow cards shown to United players in a match at Tottenham. He adds: "For Manchester United, it's not right. There is something wrong when Manchester United get seven bookings."

 

March 2008

Blasts the performance of referee Martin Atkinson after an FA Cup defeat to Portsmouth. He fumes: "It's absolutely ridiculous. Managers get sacked because of things like that and he's going to referee a game next week. That performance should not be accepted by our game." He adds that Pompey were heartened since they knew 'the referee was on their side'.

 

The United boss then turns both barrels on referees' chief Keith Hackett. He remarks: "Keith Hackett is in a nice, comfortable position and does nothing really. I don't think he makes a contribution to the referees' performances in our country. He's not doing his job properly." Despite being charged with improper conduct by the FA, Ferguson is later found not guilty.

 

April 2008

• Criticises Swiss referee Massimo Busacca for failing to award United a second penalty during the first leg of their Champions League semi-final with Barcelona. He comments: "I thought it was a penalty - the world and his wife would think that. It's hard enough to ask for one penalty. To ask for two? Well, I wasn't surprised that we didn't get it."

 

• Following a defeat at Stamford Bridge, Ferguson describes Alan Wiley's decision to award a penalty to Chelsea, courtesy of a Michael Carrick handball, as 'absolutely diabolical'. He adds: "It's a major decision that has cost us the game."

 

September 2008

• Claims that Keith Hackett told referee Mark Halsey to rescind a red card shown to Chelsea's John Terry in a game with Manchester City. Ferguson says: "If it had been a Manchester United player, Hackett would never have done this for us."

 

• Admits that United were fortunate when Rob Styles pointed to the spot during a victory over Bolton. However, the Scot then adds: "Rob Styles turned us down four or five times last year so maybe it is payback time. But he still owes us another four."

 

November 2008

Handed a two-match touchline ban and fined £10,000 for improper conduct after arguing with referee Mike Dean following a victory over Hull at Old Trafford. He later claimed that the FA were 'dying' to charge him.

 

March 2009

Hits out at Phil Dowd for dismissing Paul Scholes and Wayne Rooney in a 2-0 defeat to Fulham. He says: "It's Phil Dowd, so what do you expect?"

 

April 2009

Has a dig at referee Peter Walton for not taking action over the tackles that injured Gary Neville and John O'Shea in a win over Portsmouth. He remarks: "You normally expect some firm discipline from Peter Walton, but not this time."

 

August 2009

Tears into referee Chris Foy for failing to send off Michael Ballack during

after an alleged elbow on Patrice Evra. He comments: "The referee was in line and should have seen it. That incident cost us the game really."

 

September 2009

Describes referee Andre Marriner's decision to show a red card to Paul Scholes in a win at Tottenham as 'terrible'. He adds: "He was sent off because his name is Paul Scholes."

 

October 2009

Accuses Marriner of being swayed by the Anfield crowd as United lose to Liverpool. He remarks: "It is a very difficult atmosphere here. I think it affected our players and it affected the referee. Whether he had enough experience or not, I don't know."

 

November 2009

• Brands the decision of referee Olegario Benquerenca to book Darren Fletcher for diving in a Champions League clash with CSKA Moscow as 'the worst I have ever seen in my lifetime'.

 

• Escapes disciplinary action after criticising Martin Atkinson for allowing Chelsea's winning goal in a league game at Stamford Bridge to stand. He commented: "You lose faith in refereeing, that's the way the players see it. The referee's position to make the decision was absolutely ridiculous. He can't see anything. It was a bad decision." He later claims that this decision cost United the league title.

 

• Given a four-match touchline ban (two suspended) and fined £20,000 for questioning Alan Wiley's fitness following a draw with Sunderland. Ferguson remarked: "He was not fit enough for a game of that standard. He was taking 30 seconds to book a player. He was needing a rest. It was ridiculous."

 

January 2010

• Slams Chris Foy for only adding on five extra minutes in

. He says: "[The amount of injury time] was an insult to the game and to the players out there."

 

• Blasts Mark Clattenburg for dismissing Darren Fletcher at Birmingham. He fumes: "I have not seen a softer sending off in my life. It was absolutely ridiculous. But that was just one of the weird and wonderful decisions we saw tonight."

 

March 2010

Takes aim at the FA for letting Liverpool's Steven Gerrard off the hook after an alleged elbow on Portsmouth's Michael Brown. Ferguson says: "I didn't expect him to be charged, simply because it is a dysfunctional unit at the FA. I don't think they know what they are doing. If it was a Manchester United player, I certainly think that he would have been done."

 

April 2010

Hits out at Mike Dean and his assistant Simon Beck following a defeat to Chelsea at Old Trafford. He remarks: "When I saw it was Mike Dean, I did worry, I must admit. For a game of that magnitude, you need quality officials and we didn't get that today. It is disappointing."

 

December 2010

Rounds on referee Lee Mason after a 1-1 draw at St Andrew's for failing to spot a handball by Birmingham's Nikola Zigic in the build-up to the home side's equaliser. Ferguson says: "If the referee can't see that, what chance have you got? At this level and in a game of this importance, you expect them to see that."

 

March 2011

Handed a five-match touchline ban (three plus the two suspended from November 2009) and fined £30,000 for improper conduct after slating Martin Atkinson's performance during a defeat to Chelsea. He raged: "You want a fair referee - or a strong referee, anyway - and we didn't get that. When I saw who the referee was, I did fear it. I feared the worst."

 

April 2011

• Dismisses a Premier League initiative to curb the abuse aimed at referees. He comments: "[Premier League chief executive] Richard Scudamore doesn't have a lot to do. He is trying to elevate the Premier League. That is his job. But I feel he is jumping off a high diving board here without thinking about it."

 

• Accuses the FA of putting pressure on Lee Mason to cite Wayne Rooney for swearing into a TV camera during a win at West Ham.

 

• Queries referee Lee Probert's decision to caution Javier Hernandez for diving in a goalless draw at Newcastle. He says: "The referee has let himself down by booking the player. If it's not a penalty, fine, but to book him is an insult."

 

May 2011

• Fumes at Chris Foy's failure to award United a penalty for Gael Clichy's challenge on Michael Owen during a defeat at Arsenal. Ferguson complains: "It was a clear penalty. But we're not going to get the decisions in these big games, I'm afraid."

 

• Warned as to his future conduct by the FA after praising Howard Webb before he officiated a game between United and Chelsea. Ferguson said: "We are getting the best referee, there is no doubt about that." The FA decided that this was a minor breach of Rule E3, introduced in 2009, which prohibits any comments about referees prior to matches.

 

August 2011

Blasts the FA's treatment of Manchester United. He remarks: "The FA may realise who has produced more players for their country than any club in the world. Maybe they will realise how important we are to England instead of treating us like s***."

 

November 2011

Avoids FA punishment for launching a tirade against assistant referee John Flynn following a 1-1 draw with Newcastle. Ferguson branded Flynn's decision to flag for a penalty against Rio Ferdinand after tackling Hatem Ben Arfa as 'one of the worst I've ever seen' and 'a travesty'.

 

He added: "The problem is that the referees are full-time and the linesmen are not. Whether he ever gets a game again, the assistant referee, is not for me to decide, but it was an absolutely shocking decision."

 

February 2012

Has a pop at assistant referee Darren Cann after a 3-3 draw with Chelsea. Ferguson claims that Gary Cahill should have seen red for a foul on Danny Welbeck. He comments: "That linesman [gave] a penalty against us from 40 yards away last year against Liverpool - and he can't see that? He is all too happy to flag at Old Trafford for penalty kicks."

 

April 2012

Criticises Phil Dowd's performance as United lose at Wigan. He says: "Phil Dowd had a disappointing game. He never got to grips with it."

 

September 2012

Takes a swipe at Chris Foy again - this time, over the amount of stoppage time played in a 3-2 defeat to Tottenham. He remarks: "They gave us four minutes, that's an insult to the game. It denies you a proper chance to win a football match."

 

December 2012

• Slams referee Michael Oliver after a game with Swansea at the Liberty Stadium. He comments: "The referee has had one of those games. I know he is a young referee but, dear me, what a performance that was."

 

• And finally, Ferguson escapes an FA charge for his rant at Mike Dean and others during United's 4-3 win over Newcastle at Old Trafford.

 

 

Praise the Lord, we have reached the end of our list! There are a staggering 96 entries in it. And it shows that, during his managerial career, Alex Ferguson has received 16 fines (totalling almost £87,000) and been banned from the touchline on nine separate occasions (including one voluntary ban). He has also fired both barrels at the FA at least 12 times.

 

 

except he's just added one more to the list.

 

 

 

 

 

BAN THIS C*NT !!!!!!!

[stressederic]

February 2008

Rounds on Clattenburg again - this time, for the number of yellow cards shown to United players in a match at Tottenham. He adds: "For Manchester United, it's not right. There is something wrong when Manchester United get seven bookings."

 

That's the mask slipping right there...

[growler]

That quite a rap sheet. Shall we prove Suarez right? Send it to all the papers and journalists and see who produces it, or even refers to it.

 

Nothing will happen. Get a 10k fine and a warning. The ref and linesman will be proper punished.