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[Cam]

  On 28/04/2025 at 09:56, Cobs said:

BUT this summer is a massive opportunity to place us as the dominant force in English football for several years to come.

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Agger, Reina & Sissoko in 2005. Only Elliott was any good from 2019 (six years!!). 2020 was a bit better with Tsimikas, Thiago & Jota.

The next couple of windows need to set up us for the next few years. Capitalise on the title.

[Redwire]

  On 28/04/2025 at 10:15, Benzo-13 said:

The best thing they’ve done is not building a new stadium. Imagine leaving Anfield. The place just connects us from start to finish.

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I was amazed at how many were up for a new stadium.  I don't know if it came mainly from those who rarely go to Anfield.

[Gethin]

  On 28/04/2025 at 14:51, Redwire said:

I was amazed at how many were up for a new stadium.  I don't know if it came mainly from those who rarely go to Anfield.

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Think it was more that people were up for a much bigger capacity and it was difficult to see how you'd do that with Anfield - credit to them for being able to. Shame it's virtually impossible to expand the Kop now though 

[Maharajkumar of Vizianagram]

Stay put FSG!

 

  On 28/04/2025 at 14:57, Gethin said:

Think it was more that people were up for a much bigger capacity and it was difficult to see how you'd do that with Anfield - credit to them for being able to. Shame it's virtually impossible to expand the Kop now though 

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I wonder if there's ever a window of opportunity again.  Remember asking this in here once and someone said the opportunity will never be repeated.  It really is a shame.  

Edited April 28 by Maharajkumar of Vizianagram

[Gethin]

  On 28/04/2025 at 15:07, Maharajkumar of Vizianagram said:

Stay put FSG!

 

I wonder if there's ever a window of opportunity again.  Remember asking this in here once and someone said the opportunity will never be repeated.  It really is a shame.  

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Think there’s two barriers - firstly the road, both rerouting it and number of houses on the other side which would need to be demolished or impacted by the size of it. Secondly the club would be on the hook for major infrastructure improvements if the capacity goes over what it is now. 

[Jarg Armani]

  On 28/04/2025 at 15:36, Gethin said:

Think there’s two barriers - firstly the road, both rerouting it and number of houses on the other side which would need to be demolished or impacted by the size of it. Secondly the club would be on the hook for major infrastructure improvements if the capacity goes over what it is now. 

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You say that but Everton seem to have cracked on without bothering. Just do it and then scream and cry at Steve Rotheram if it goes t*** up.

[Jarg Armani]

Speaking of our stadium expansion have you seen Leeds’ plans? Reminds me of something, can’t put my finger on it

[PaulMcC186]

We're not an afterthought. That's good.

 

[kop205]

'A renewed sense of vigour'

Translation - 'They've won the league and we defo want to be associated with the good vibes and kudos of that'

[smithdown]

We won the league by mistake!

[Swipe]

A renewed sense of vigour could put Henry six feet into the f***ing ground. 

[Benzo-13]

  On 08/05/2025 at 19:28, kop205 said:

'A renewed sense of vigour'

Translation - 'They've won the league and we defo want to be associated with the good vibes and kudos of that'

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They’d wanna start doing the pay offs to whoever to enlarge the Kop. Though it looked as impressive as ever after Spurs.

[smithdown]

  On 08/05/2025 at 19:58, Swipe said:

A renewed sense of vigour could put Henry six feet into the f***ing ground. 

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Aye, arl ‘choke-on-a-yolk’ wants to watch his blood pressure.  It might actually start to circulate a bit.  

[Bogman]

That’ll be purely $ signs.

[Ed the Wool]

Course it is.

Be good if it gets the rest of the stadium done though. That way they're not a completely useless band of soul suckers. 

They're a lot of things but they are capable money makers. The worry now is Rotherham and political class. Also greedy but not very capable of actually getting things done that make a difference. 

[Romario]

  On 08/05/2025 at 19:28, kop205 said:

'A renewed sense of vigour'

Translation - 'They've won the league and we defo want to be associated with the good vibes and kudos of that'

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Trump brings massive uncertainty to the economy so it’s probably a terrible time to try and sell. Either way if they invest properly this summer that’s great. 

[surf]

Man, our transfers are awesome. So few duds:

15/16: Firmino, Gomez, Milner, (Clyne, Benteke)

16/17: Mane, Matip, Wijnaldum (Karius, Klavan)

17/18: Salah, Robertson, Van Dijk (Solanke, Oxlade)

18/19: Allison, Fabinho, (Keita, Shaqiri, van den Berg)

19/20: Elliot, (Minamino)

20/21: Jota, Thiago, Tsimikas (Kabak, Ben Davies!)

21/22: Konate, Diaz

22/23: Gakpo, Nunez, Ramsey, Doak, Carvalho, Melo!)

23/24: Mac Allister, Szoboslai, Endo, Gravenberg

Edited yesterday at 08:00 by surf

[Kvarme Ate My Food]

Keita? 

[surf]

And just for a laugh, here are Uniteds:

15/16: Martial, Schneiderlin, Depay, Darmian, Schweinsteiger

16/17: Pogbs, Mkhtaryan, Bailly, Zlatan

17/18: Lukaku, Matic, Lindelof, Alexis Sanchez

18/19: Fred, Dalot

19/20: Maguire, Fernandes, Wan-Bissake, Daniel James (whatever happend to him)

20/21: van de Beek, Diallo, Telles, Pellistri, Cavani

21/22: Sancho, Varane, Ronaldo

22/23: Antony , Casemiro, Martinez, malacia, Weghorst, Eriksen

23/24: Hojlund, Mount, Onana, Amrabat, Evans

  On 09/05/2025 at 07:53, Kvarme Ate My Food said:

Keita? 

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Ah good catch. Apparently i messed up 17/18 and forgot the whole 18/19 season

Edited yesterday at 08:01 by surf

[Cobs]

  On 09/05/2025 at 06:46, Romario said:

Trump brings massive uncertainty to the economy so it’s probably a terrible time to try and sell. Either way if they invest properly this summer that’s great. 

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The only people/groups left who can afford us now aren’t gonna be bothered by Trump.

[Romario]

  On 09/05/2025 at 08:07, Cobs said:

The only people/groups left who can afford us now aren’t gonna be bothered by Trump.

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Yeah that’s a good point. 

[surf]

Here's the full comparison. The only season i'd take their transfers over ours is 19/20, and even then i'd not be happy with the money spent and players brought in for that.

 

2015/16 Season

Manchester United (£104.2m)

Anthony Martial – £36m

Memphis Depay – £25m

Morgan Schneiderlin – £24m

Matteo Darmian – £12.7m

Bastian Schweinsteiger – £6.5m

Liverpool (£77.5m)

Christian Benteke – £32.5m

Roberto Firmino – £29m

Nathaniel Clyne – £12.5m

Joe Gomez – £3.5m

James Milner – Free

 

2016/17 Season

Manchester United (£149m)

Paul Pogba – £89m

Eric Bailly – £30m

Henrikh Mkhitaryan – £30m

Zlatan Ibrahimović – Free

Liverpool (£63.9m)

Sadio Mané – £30m

Georginio Wijnaldum – £25m

Loris Karius – £4.7m

Ragnar Klavan – £4.2m

Joël Matip – Free

 

2017/18 Season

Manchester United (£146m)

Romelu Lukaku – £75m

Nemanja Matić – £40m

Victor Lindelöf – £31m

Alexis Sánchez – Swap

Liverpool (£168.9m)

Virgil van Dijk – £75m

Mohamed Salah – £43.9m

Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain – £40m

Andrew Robertson – £10m

Dominic Solanke – Tribunal

 

2018/19 Season

Manchester United (£66m)

Fred – £47m

Diogo Dalot – £19m

Liverpool (£171.8m)

Alisson Becker – £65m

Naby Keïta – £52.75m

Fabinho – £39m

Xherdan Shaqiri – £13.75m

Sepp van den Berg – £1.3m

 

2019/20 Season

Manchester United (£192m)

Harry Maguire – £80m

Aaron Wan-Bissaka – £50m

Bruno Fernandes – £47m

Daniel James – £15m

Liverpool (£8.95m)

Takumi Minamino – £7.25m

Harvey Elliott – £1.7m

 

2020/21 Season

Manchester United (£78.4m)

Donny van de Beek – £35m

Amad Diallo – £19m (rising to £37m)

Alex Telles – £15.4m

Facundo Pellistri – £9m

Edinson Cavani – Free

 

Liverpool (£73.25m)

Diogo Jota – £41m

Thiago Alcântara – £20m

Kostas Tsimikas – £11.75m

Ben Davies – £500k

Ozan Kabak – Loan

 

2021/22 Season

Manchester United (£119.7m)

Jadon Sancho – £72.6m

Raphaël Varane – £34.2m

Cristiano Ronaldo – £12.9m

Liverpool (£73.5m)

Luis Díaz – £37.5m

Ibrahima Konaté – £36m

 

2022/23 Season

Manchester United (£215m)

Antony – £85m

Casemiro – £60m

Lisandro Martínez – £57m

Tyrell Malacia – £13m

Wout Weghorst – Loan

Christian Eriksen – Free

 

Liverpool (£134.1m)

Darwin Núñez – £85m

Cody Gakpo – £37m

Calvin Ramsay – £6.5m

Fábio Carvalho – £5m

Ben Doak – £600k

Arthur Melo – Loan

 

2023/24 Season

Manchester United (£174m)

Rasmus Højlund – £72m

Mason Mount – £55m

André Onana – £47m

Sofyan Amrabat – Loan

Jonny Evans – Free

 

Liverpool (£145m)

Dominik Szoboszlai – £60m

Ryan Gravenberch – £34m

Alexis Mac Allister – £35m

Wataru Endo – £16m

 

Grand Total

Manchester United: £1,124.3m

Liverpool: £916.8m

[Earl Hafler]

  On 08/05/2025 at 19:58, Swipe said:

A renewed sense of vigour could put Henry six feet into the f***ing ground. 

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Would a renewed sense of vigour work on him at his age ?

[charlie clown]

  On 09/05/2025 at 08:22, Earl Hafler said:

Would a renewed sense of vigour work on him at his age ?

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Little blue tablets? I'm sure Linda has him on those anyway.

[PhilM]

  On 09/05/2025 at 07:49, surf said:

Man, our transfers are awesome. So few duds:

15/16: Firmino, Gomez, Milner, (Clyne, Benteke)

16/17: Mane, Matip, Wijnaldum (Karius, Klavan)

17/18: Salah, Robertson, Van Dijk (Solanke, Oxlade)

18/19: Allison, Fabinho, (Keita, Shaqiri, van den Berg)

19/20: Elliot, (Minamino)

20/21: Jota, Thiago, Tsimikas (Kabak, Ben Davies!)

21/22: Konate, Diaz

22/23: Gakpo, Nunez, Ramsey, Doak, Carvalho, Melo!)

23/24: Mac Allister, Szoboslai, Endo, Gravenberg

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I'd argue that it's more positive than you've said there. Solanke was ultimately shown to be a good player and we made a huge profit on him. Van Den Berg and presumably Doak probably the same. Minamino made a very positive contribution and was sold for a good  profit. Carvalho was a massive profit. Shaq was a good player for us too, Klavan too.

Some of them were bad timings, some of them were hamstrung because of their injury records, but actual duds there are pretty few and far between. Keita, Nunez, Ings, Karius and Benteke are the only all out duds and even Darwin has scored important goals.