Gary Neville talks about Diving

[Barnesy_10]

 

well worth a watch

 

 

edit: for some reason I couldn't embed it into the post

Edited April 17, 2012 by Barnesy_10

[Stevie H]

does he mention that pisspoor effort he did himself in the manchester derby a number of years ago? think it was mcmanaman that called him a c*** and told him to get up as it goes.

[Barnesy_10]

does he mention that pisspoor effort he did himself in the manchester derby a number of years ago? think it was mcmanaman that called him a c*** and told him to get up as it goes.

watch it and see

 

he admits he did it too..... for what its worth

[Tosh]

Good anlysis, very honest (depressing nonetheless).

 

Andy Gray? who he?

[Stevie H]

watch it and see

 

he admits he did it too..... for what its worth

sorry, i'm not watching him. we don't get sky out here so i never have to endure his rat face on match coverage so i'm buggered if i'm going out of my way to watch him online. he's a horrible manc c*nt.

[yellow jumper]

he admits to diving.

 

speaks well on it. seems a fair reflection of the way players think. it's rife. no one has the moral high ground on it really. not going to change it because it's more complex than players diving/not diving. shows incidents of players not going down and not getting decisions, and yellow cards for dives which aren't (including suarez).

 

it\'s the least hypocritical point of view to hold on this subject i think.

 

almost coming down to the fashion of the dive now. not whether you go down, but how you go down. young's face splash beyond the pale, but you're seeing players go down from that kind of contact all the time in one way or another.

[Barnesy_10]

sorry, i'm not watching him. we don't get sky out here so i never have to endure his rat face on match coverage so i'm buggered if i'm going out of my way to watch him online. he's a horrible manc c*nt.

he's arguably the best pundit out there...

 

hes weaker at in game commentary, but as a studio pundit he is generally spot on.

[AE]

AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

WARNING - DO NOT WATCH THAT

 

He is actually a very good and very reasonable football pundet based on those 15 minutes. If he carrys on like that we may have to respect him (a bit) one day

 

EDIT - He is far, far better than almost all the ex-pros touting about in the media, based on those 15 minutes

Edited April 17, 2012 by AE

[yellow jumper]

the hutton challenge on young outside the box is more of a foul then the one by clarke he goes down for. neville's right though, both bad bits of defending. and most players given the opportunity will look to go down easier in the box. that's part of the game now.

[Stevie H]

he's arguably the best pundit out there...

 

hes weaker at in game commentary, but as a studio pundit he is generally spot on.

he's a horrible manc c*nt. i don't really care what else he might be.

 

cantona's apparently become not a bad actor. i don't like him either and never will.

[Cobs]

they should still be giving them retrospective punishment

 

1 game ban for 1st offence

 

2 games for the 2nd

 

and so on

[yellow jumper]

they should still be giving them retrospective punishment

 

1 game ban for 1st offence

 

2 games for the 2nd

 

and so on

 

i think getting into disseminating levels of contact opens a huge can of worms. there's a good example there of a player staying on his feet when there's a shirt pull. he's being fouled but doesn't get the decision. i don't think a game where there's no diving means it's suddenly more honest, it'll just balance the stretching of the laws more in favour of defenders.

 

you can't retrospectively award wrongly denied penalties.

[Cobs]

i think getting into disseminating levels of contact opens a huge can of worms. there's a good example there of a player staying on his feet when there's a shirt pull. he's being fouled but doesn't get the decision. i don't think a game where there's no diving means it's suddenly more honest, it'll just balance the stretching of the laws more in favour of defenders.

 

you can't retrospectively award wrongly denied penalties.

 

 

no but you can ban perpetrators so they think twice before doing it again

 

 

I don't like diving, i'd ban play-acting t***s too

 

 

 

 

 

BAN EVERYONE! BAN MURPH!

[aka Dus]

I think people need to get past the idea that a game can be refereed perfectly and that sport is 'fair'.

Edited April 17, 2012 by aka Dus

[Cobs]

I think people need to get past the idea that a game can be refereed perfectly

 

 

you need to get past peddling this schit as someone elses point of view when it isn't

[aka Dus]

you need to get past peddling this schit as someone elses point of view when it isn't

 

"94% accuracy" is not a winning sales pitch.

[Cobs]

"94% accuracy" is not a winning sales pitch.

 

 

no - it's your answer to the question no-one asked

[matty]

Neville's bit was pretty good. And he (or rather Sky's team) highlighted the one where Suarez got booked although he had been fouled.

 

Whether he'll do a similar piece on why the FA has decided that this year's title should be decided on penalties, I don't know.

[sutty]

I'm on the verge of not wanting him dead.

 

It's very depressing

[Cobs]

his increasing fatness and lack of stupid moustache have helped drop his punchability down by 0.4%

[Hassony]

he's a horrible manc c*nt. i don't really care what else he might be.

 

cantona's apparently become not a bad actor. i don't like him either and never will.

 

a spot on attitude

 

I'd never watch a cantona film

 

unfortunately I've seen Neville as a pundit and he is pretty good, I hate myself for actually thinking that

[The Hitman]

a spot on attitude

 

I'd never watch a cantona film

 

unfortunately I've seen Neville as a pundit and he is pretty good, I hate myself for actually thinking that

Ditto.

Neville's probably be best there is, but again, I hate myself too.

[drdooom]

How can you call him reasonable when he says "Penalty? Yes?" about the Young dive.

[yellow jumper]

How can you call him reasonable when he says "Penalty? Yes?" about the Young dive.

 

he actually says "Dive? Yes. Penalty? Yes." i suppose you could just view it as an elaborate way of trying to substantiate the mancs' dubious penalty record.

 

i think as long as he is happy to concede the same thing every time a player looks for and gets contact with a dangling leg before falling over, no matter how easily, then fair enough. it's a consistent view. and just as, if not more, realistic as saying we need to outlaw diving completely.

 

the biggest issue in the game is that there is bias. bias in reporting and refereeing of these incidents. things like reputation, home crowds, big clubs come into it. i don't think that changes regardless of whether you think diving is part of the game or you don't.

[Epic Swindle]

How can you call him reasonable when he says "Penalty? Yes?" about the Young dive.

 

Clearly doing a bit of free manc PR. Not a pen and a horrendsous dive for which Young rightly deserved to be labelled a cheat.