Alan Davies

[Epic Swindle]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/alan-davies-comic-hits-out-796374

 

Being an insensitive prick again. Really doesn't get it does he? Not only is it about grief it's also about a criminal injustice. That's why there's a loss of perspective, the moron, much like his retweeting of idiotic death threats to try and prove his point.

 

The unfunny blert will get way too much publicity out of this but he deserves a good slap.

[Red2Core]

he's an unfunny floppy haired g*******

[smithdown]

He's apologised for his tone of voice though.

 

'The nature of bereavement...', ffs, who'd have the arrogance to preach about that?

[RBM]

t**

[Sion]

I don't understand why he thinks its anything to do with him

[Epic Swindle]

Think he's got a tour coming up.

[RBM]

Bet he cancels his Liverpool date

[The_MC]

Unbelievable. What an arrogant, sad little man. You'd think after having a chance to think over what he originally said and the response from the bereaved families he would have apologised and admitted he was out of line to tell people how to mourn their loved ones. Pathetic.

[D.Boon]

He's apologised for his tone of voice though.

 

'The nature of bereavement...', ffs, who'd have the arrogance to preach about that?

 

I for never knew he was such an expert on bereavement.

[Epic Swindle]

Unbelievable. What an arrogant, sad little man. You'd think after having a chance to think over what he originally said and the response from the bereaved families he would have apologised and admitted he was out of line to tell people how to mourn their loved ones. Pathetic.

 

That's it. What's it go to do with him how people remember their loved ones. How can he even begin to comprehend how people feel, t***. Worse thing it's brought every little ignorant point scoring no mark out of the woodwoork again to peddle the usual lies.

 

No matter what facts come out or coverage, there will always be a sizeable bunch of meatheads who stick to the ticketless fans, self pity, muderers, angle. What it is about football that turns some people into dickeads.

Edited April 16, 2012 by Epic Swindle

[Falconhoof]

There has to be justice and questions have to be answered before people can have some release and begin to have closure, but in their own time, not when Jonathan Cweek decides.

 

Infuriating comments. Who the hell does he think he is.

[Kvarme Ate My Food]

It's the "self pity" angle isn't it? Like we saw in the Spectator, and in the S*n's "apology", and from Man U fans with that "always the victim" song.

 

Some people genuinely believe we enjoy wallowing in the grief.

[cymrococh]

I just can't get over his arrogance in this.

 

Why he wouldn't just gracefully bow out and shut the f*ck up is beyond me.

 

He must actually believe that he knows more about 'the reality of bereavement' than the families of the 96, it's absolutely staggering.

[Swan Red]

It's the "self pity" angle isn't it? Like we saw in the Spectator, and in the S*n's "apology", and from Man U fans with that "always the victim" song.

 

Some people genuinely believe we enjoy wallowing in the grief.

 

Ah well I guess I can consider him a c*** without being overly provincial now

[smithdown]

So this 'bloke' says he supports the campaign but he doesn't support what they stand for or how they go about their business and wants to lecture all involved about their public conduct.

 

He must need this quite badly.

[Epic Swindle]

It's the "self pity" angle isn't it? Like we saw in the Spectator, and in the S*n's "apology", and from Man U fans with that "always the victim" song.

 

Some people genuinely believe we enjoy wallowing in the grief.

 

And usually the same people who still believe there's a British empire. It's disturbing that it's only us who get labelled with this s*** when there's an outpouring of emotion throughout the game for incidents like Mumba, as bad as it was.

[carrafan]

Any chance this is publicity stunt on Davies' behalf?

[Epic Swindle]

Any chance this is publicity stunt on Davies' behalf?

 

Doubt it at first but he'll milk it now. He's got a tour to sell out and will probably use this as part of his act now.

Edited April 16, 2012 by Epic Swindle

[Hassony]

the majority of people on twitter apparently agree with him, even many from liverpool

 

he never bothers to retweet those though, only the four or so who are threatening to him

[smithdown]

Doubt it at first but he'll milk it now. He's got a tour to sell out and will probably use this as part of his act now.

 

He'll come unstuck if he does, there's always going to be someone waiting to heckle the f*ck out of him when he does.

 

I like to think he'll be forced to make another apology soon, possibly blaming exhaustion or stress or something, cos he's made it well worse with this article now.

[Epic Swindle]

He'll come unstuck if he does, there's always going to be someone waiting to heckle the f*ck out of him when he does.

 

Not sure, he'll probably get applauded by the type of t***s who think he's funny.

[dorgie]

Margaret Aspinall put him down goodo at the memorial service.

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

Tony Parsons has ripped him one for this

[cymrococh]

Tony Parsons has ripped him one for this

Link?

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

It's not Parsons - he tweeted this

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/alan-davies-you-are-not-the-latest-796576#.T4wQASTuDqU.twitter

 

Alan Davies; comedian, broadcaster, podcaster, football pundit and - so we learn from his Times article this morning - the latest victim of the Hillsborough disaster.

 

This morning, in an article of breathtakingly convoluted and self-serving logic, he clambered so far up the moral high ground only a fool would seek to argue with him.

 

He’s a football fan, he writes. Why, he was even watching football himself (albeit a couple of hundred miles away) on April 15, 1989! He’s been lifted off his feet many times at matches! He was in a bad crush at a tube station twice! He’s even done a gig at Liverpool Poly and met people who were affected by the tragedy!

 

THIS MAN KNOWS YOUR PAIN, LIVERPOOL!

 

And more than that; he knows how Liverpool should react to it.

 

In his article, he gives a four-point guide to the “reality of bereavement”.

 

1) Memorial services each year have nothing to do with bereavement.

 

2) You live with it all year round.

 

3) Some days will be worse than others.

 

4) The day of their death isn’t as important as the memories inside.

 

It starts insulting, then moves through condescension before finishing in stating the bleeding obvious. He manages to be simultaneously banal and irritating.

 

But all self-qualification and cod-psychology is a sideshow compared to his central gripe.

 

He’s been treated terribly.

 

Poor Alan. He’s suffered; every day since he said it was ridiculous Liverpool could elect not to play football matches on the anniversary of the day 96 of their fans were crushed to death.

 

There have been death threats, cancer wished upon him and offers to shower his mother’s grave with urine. All on Twitter of course. Where he has continued winding people up since the story broke. (You’d almost think he was enjoying the publicity!)

 

He even calls for an apology, suggesting Merseyside MP Steve Rotheram call his constituents to account, saying: “ Perhaps Mr Rotheram could now write to those people, possibly his own constituents, who want me to contract cancer so my 'children will never enjoy Christmas', who want to urinate on my mother's grave, who would take pleasure in seeing my wife sexually assaulted, and suggest that it is they who have truly caused offence.”

 

He goes on to say that these people attacking him “with such hatred” don’t represent the dead. And it’s hard to argue.

 

They don't represent anyone. I know that, you know that, and Alan Davies certainly knows that. Even they themselves know that.

 

They’re irrelevant. Twitter is full of idiots. That’s why it’s called Twitter. And anyone who takes a death threat from Twitter seriously has a highly overactive imagination.

 

Either that, or a cynical self-serving agenda and a fine line in moralising.

 

To use them to claim the moral high ground and present yourself as a victim in this is a travesty.

 

Then, finally, after a lot of me me me (even by a TV comic's standards), he returns to the theme that got him into such trouble in the first place.

 

“There is a loss of perspective and a distortion of genuine emotion over Hillsborough,” he writes.

 

And again it’s hard not to agree.

 

Alan Davies, in this misguided flame-fanning article (you wonder, incidentally, what effect his remarks had in the minds of those despicable Chelsea morons at Wembley yesterday), has lost perspective altogether.

 

It’s not about you Alan. It’s about the families who are still battered by ignorance like yours every week.

 

And yes, he has certainly distorted genuine emotion over Hillsborough.

 

It seems like a lifetime ago that I sat in Anne Williams’ front room and interviewed her, as the Formby Times reporter, about the death of her son Kevin the day before. Yet, for 23 years Anne Williams’ genuine emotion over the injustice of Hillsborough has burned undiminished.

 

She’s not the only one of course.

 

Tens of thousands of decent and right-minded and quiet and dignified and honest and ordinary people think the same. Many thousands directly connected to the tragedy by loss, many more tens of thousands directly connected to the tragedy by a sense of injustice.

 

To conflate their genuine emotion, and the way they choose to maintain their campaign for that justice, with a handful of irrelevant fools on Twitter, is contemptible.