David Moyes talks some sense

[jimbolala]

Moyes has suggested that everyone in the league should take a 20 % pay cut. That isnt a bad idea, as long as it didnt mean groundstaff etc where being put into poverty.

[Rimbeux]

Why?

[Stevie H]

that's very generous of him. perhaps everton should trial it for a year just to see how if would work for everyone else like.

[smithdown]

where would that money go instead?

[jimbolala]

It would make it cheaper to watch the game

[Epic Swindle]

where would that money go instead?

 

Kings dock.

[Rimbeux]

It would make it cheaper to watch the game

 

Don't believe it would. Clubs will charge as much as they can before it stops enough people going, players and managers will push for the most they can get, whilst most of the money actually comes from tv

[Billy Dane]

Everton struggling to compete, so Moyes wants everyone to drop a level to help them.

 

Naive suggestion, when all the top players will go abroad and follow the money.

[Cam]

Moyes has suggested that everyone in the league should take a 20 % pay cut. That isnt a bad idea, as long as it didnt mean groundstaff etc where being put into poverty.

Is that just players or does it apply to under-achieving managers too?

[Cunny]

Ticket prices are a joke in this country and it's not just the Premier League.

I paid £20 to watch Colchester v Preston in League 1 yesterday. The standard was awful and they wonder why no one is in the stadiums.

You could watch a Bundesliga match for less.

[Epic Swindle]

Problem is we all moan and yet keep paying it, well I don't tbh. I think the germans fans just won't have it.

[Cam]

£20?!! Kinell.

 

Just checked Crewe's. Me and my brother were thinking of going over either this season or next (in honour of our great-uncle who, when we were kids, just decided overnight to stop supporting Blackburn and start following Crewe "because someone has to") and they're £19.50 for adults.

 

I'd have pulled a face at a tenner.

[jimbolala]

Just because its Moyes, doesnt mean its a bad idea. It is far too expensive to follow football in Britain. Average players earn more in a week than people earn in a year. There is a huge economic problem at the moment, which football is ignoring. Its gonna come back and bite big time

[Logic]

Just because its Moyes, doesnt mean its a bad idea. It is far too expensive to follow football in Britain. Average players earn more in a week than people earn in a year. There is a huge economic problem at the moment, which football is ignoring. Its gonna come back and bite big time

Everyone in the league taking a paycut today means the best players leave the league tomorrow.

 

If people accept that then, yes, it's a good idea.

[smithdown]

Everton struggling to compete, so Moyes wants everyone to drop a level to help them.

 

Naive suggestion, when all the top players will go abroad and follow the money.

 

 

Heh!

 

"Moyeseybaby, this is Bill. I can squeeze out £50k a week for another Fellooni, or £40k and we knock a few quid off the ticket prices for the kiddies, the little blues, the people's kids, *sniff*, eddie thingyo being chased by coppers at wembley, the lad who wanted to swap shirts with nyarko, Sylvester Stallone, for the love of Christ!!!...yer in my haaaaart, yer in my soooooulll...yer my best friend..."

"You know me, Bill. I'm a champion of the people. All of parts of Sefton, a couple of estates on the Wirral and swathe of very small towns in North Wales look up to me and worship my ginger pyablets."

"evtenevtenevten...EVTEN...EVEEEEEERTEN...."

"BILL!"

"What Moyeseydaveydavey, what is it?"

"Gimme the f*cking fifty grand, Bill. I want it in cash. I'm doing a daring raid on the Argentinian Segundo Divisione!"

"You're like James f*cking Bond or Scarface you are, baby!"

"Och aye the noo. I'm like proper Bootle n that."

Edited March 4, 2012 by smithdown

[Rimbeux]

Just because its Moyes, doesnt mean its a bad idea. It is far too expensive to follow football in Britain. Average players earn more in a week than people earn in a year. There is a huge economic problem at the moment, which football is ignoring. Its gonna come back and bite big time

 

 

It's not because it's Moyes, it's just simplistic populist stuff that he hasn't thought through or doesn't understand.

 

There is an issue with the sustainability of ticket prices for many clubs, and too many of them are quite short sighted, in my opinion this is more of an issue further down the leagues than in the premier league. All the while you have fans demanding better players and still going through the gates at these prices, all the while the tv money keeps the whole show on the road.

 

What football needs are some live examples of what happens if you dont run a club to solvency, not the current joke of 10 points and most of your debt written off. I agree with those who say administration should mean automatic relegation, I think the transfer embargo in the football league for not filing accounts is positive, I think FFP is positive. All these together would make more football clubs plan for long term sustainability and not short term gambles and risks that inflate the player wages. That would encourage clubs to build a regular crowd over time through smart pricing and not try to squeeze the last drops from the die hards. Again I'd say this is more of an issue with the lower leagues than the PL.

Edited March 4, 2012 by Rimbeux

[Tommy Cockles]

I went to a Conference South game a few months ago and paid £12.

 

I was mortified, expected it to be maybe £5. Probably about 100 in the ground.

[Ethan]

I pay 15 euro into League of Ireland games FFS

[drdooom]

I pay 14 euro to watch finnish top division games here. Most of the players here wouldn't qualify to wipe the ball for a Rory Delap throw in.

[jimbolala]

So everyone is being ripped off because thats the football model? If players threaten to clear off because they only get £1 million a year, then fine, let them go. There are loads of players who would run through a brick wall for that money. As i stated before, there are loads of average players on mega money, this money comes from us. They are not worth it, simple

[Rimbeux]

So everyone is being ripped off because thats the football model? If players threaten to clear off because they only get £1 million a year, then fine, let them go. There are loads of players who would run through a brick wall for that money. As i stated before, there are loads of average players on mega money, this money comes from us. They are not worth it, simple

 

Most of it comes from tv in the PL, not the gate. The tv is the base reason for the levels of money and wages in the game, not the gate and ticket prices.

 

Who's to decide how much a player gets paid? It's a discussion between the bloke in charge of paying at the club and the player, nobody else.

 

There are a lot of issues around football clubs finances, the main one being that they stay solvent. Get that right and the rest falls into place.

[Molby]

the German model is the one surely?

 

cheap to get in, good atmosphere, good stadia - masters of their own destiny

 

would take that anyday...................now that we've already won the CL again!

[Rimbeux]

the German model is the one surely?

 

cheap to get in, good atmosphere, good stadia - masters of their own destiny

 

would take that anyday...................now that we've already won the CL again!

 

 

Indeed, the German model begins with FFP, and a fairly recent experience with a collapse of tv revenue.

[Ethan]

Can't stand the googleyeyed f*****

[muleskinner]

If they weren't skint he wouldn't have said a dickybird.