Anyone going to Parliament next week

[RP]

For the "debate on the Hillsborough disaster" - on Monday at 7pm??

[Gunga Din]

Steve Rotherham was on the wireless earlier saying there was a danger of this debate not getting its 3 hours now

[RP]

I have a ticket for the public gallery but have just had an email asking for my specific reason for attending (i.e. is it to winess this specific debate).

 

I'm not sure what is behind the question - it's not standard practice (in my experience) to ask why you're attending.

 

"Due to numbers wishing to view that debate, you need to be in your seat by 3pm and stay for the duration of proceedings. The debate is scheduled to being at 7pm."

 

 

Can anyone else see the ****ing irony??

[dorgie]

It's all over Twitter that this guy ( http://www.conservatives.com/People/Members_of_Parliament/Chope_Christopher.aspx ) is trying to block the debate. Some suggestions that Duckenfield is a constituent of his.

[Rimbeux]

He was a non cabinet minister at the time, has asked questions regarding the HIP and how much it's costing.

Edited October 11, 2011 by Rimbeux

[Redwire]

He shouted "object" when they were moving the business of the house and in particular the Hillsborough debate on Monday. He wants to debate MP's pensions instead. Now the house will have to vote tomorrow on whether to debate Hillsborough or MP's pensions.

 

Tory c*nt.

[smithdown]

Heard Steve Rotherham last night, feckin seething he was.

[Jiggy Hates Jazz]

Just emailed the c*** and my local MP to say how disgusted I am with his actions. Don't expect a response...

[Cobs]

That MP has said Hillsborough debate to go ahead as scheduled, he intends to participate & the charges levelled against him trying to stop/delay it are false.

 

So there u go...

[Rimbeux]

That MP has said Hillsborough debate to go ahead as scheduled, he intends to participate & the charges levelled against him trying to stop/delay it are false.

 

So there u go...

 

 

But he wants to reserve the right to filibust in the previous debate and cut it.

[Cobs]

Sounds all a bit people's front of judea having the right to be a woman

 

He's said the Hillsborough debate will start on time, no later than 7pm

 

PMQs is starting up now

[smithdown]

Leveson inquiry seminar on phone hacking and media standards - live

 

Full coverage of the third seminar in the inquiry into media standards and ethics where today's star turns include Paul Dacre of the Daily Mail, Sly Bailey of Trinity Mirror and former Sun editor Kelvin MacKenzie

 

Former Sun editor Kelvin MacKenzie will be the last speaker this afternoon – probably at about 4.30pm with a presentation titled "Defending freedom of expression".

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2011/oct/12/leveson-inquiry-seminar-live-blog

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

words fail

[Rimbeux]

Sounds all a bit people's front of judea having the right to be a woman

 

He's said the Hillsborough debate will start on time, no later than 7pm

 

PMQs is starting up now

 

 

It's a cute answer, he states what the government wants to do, he then states that they tried to get this to happen without going through the full procedures, and all he is doing is looking to make sure the plan to limit the pensions debate is voted on. There was a large whisper that he and other were planning to speak at length and make the pensions debate overrun, they got rumbled, they made another move. He knows what he's about.

[Flight]

Leveson inquiry seminar on phone hacking and media standards - live

 

Full coverage of the third seminar in the inquiry into media standards and ethics where today's star turns include Paul Dacre of the Daily Mail, Sly Bailey of Trinity Mirror and former Sun editor Kelvin MacKenzie

 

Former Sun editor Kelvin MacKenzie will be the last speaker this afternoon – probably at about 4.30pm with a presentation titled "Defending freedom of expression".

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2011/oct/12/leveson-inquiry-seminar-live-blog

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

words fail

 

 

Outrageous. Can only hope it turns the spotlight on him and his hypocrisy and that someone is in a place to highlight how despicable this man is.

[matty]

Outrageous. Can only hope it turns the spotlight on him and his hypocrisy and that someone is in a place to highlight how despicable this man is.

The bloke who runs the 'Guido Fawkes' website said recently, when asked about what information he would hesitate to publish on his blog said 'I would ask myself, what would Kelvin Mackenzie do?'

 

The right wing, eh? Lovely bunch of lads.

[RP]

They just had the vote in the Commons as to whether the debate goes ahead Monday.

 

Not a single dissenter.

 

Brilliant.

[Jiggy Hates Jazz]

Great news

[meredithmathieson]

And, without checking Hansard, I would guess that it is the first time ever in the House of Commons that the Prime Minister has been told to "get a grip".

 

Well said Steve Rotheram.

[Epic Swindle]

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/columnists/michael-calvin/Michael-Calvin-column-Forget-Liverpool-s-international-TV-rights-and-stadium-deals-this-is-no-time-to-betray-the-96-fans-who-died-at-Hillsborough-article812954.html

 

Anyone else find this really patronising and offensive?

[Falconhoof]

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/columnists/michael-calvin/Michael-Calvin-column-Forget-Liverpool-s-international-TV-rights-and-stadium-deals-this-is-no-time-to-betray-the-96-fans-who-died-at-Hillsborough-article812954.html

 

Anyone else find this really patronising and offensive?

 

Its disgusting.

[kop205]

Its disgusting.

 

Why the f*** anyone feels the need to link the two issues is beyond me.

[Cheesecake]

BBC Article

[matty]

Guardian article.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2011/oct/17/sun-hillsborough-disaster?commentpage=last#end-of-comments

[Falconhoof]

Guardian article.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2011/oct/17/sun-hillsborough-disaster?commentpage=last#end-of-comments

 

MacKenzie told a House of Commons National Heritage Select Committee;

“I regret Hillsborough. It was a fundamental mistake. The mistake was I believed what an MP said. It was a Tory MP. If he had not said it and the chief superintendent (David Duckenfield) had not agreed with it, we would not have gone with it."

[Falconhoof]

Incidentally, and I don't know if its been mentioned on the forum, but David Duckenfield now lives in Dorset, in the constituency of Christchurch. The MP who tried to stop tonight's debate, Christopher Chope is the Tory MP for Christchurch.