Our new owners

[RP]

What an excellent start to their stewardship.

 

Having taken their time to analyse the quality of the incumbent Manager, they have made a huge decision early in their reign, the first step in a process that will ultimately define their time in Liverpool. Get this right - by 'this' I mean Kenny and then the subsequent permanent Manager, be that Kenny or AN Other - and they are all set to oversee the rebuilding of our great club. Get this wrong and who knows where we all end up???

 

Either way, they have made the decision and acted decisively. Crucially they have done this 'The Liverpool Way', i.e. behind closed doors. I have become sick of our club being operated like a bloody soap opera - arguably some of our fans deserve no better (witness the foot-stamping 'I want it now' attitude that seems to be growing by the day), but the core support of Liverpool FC and the people of Liverpool the city deserve better. Maybe now we finally have better. Appointing a caretaker is clearly not what the owners wanted when they took over but unfortunately that lack of quality of the Manager they inherited has forced them to move sooner than they wished and in a direction that was not their preference. They wanted their new CEO in place and for him to guide the decision and direction of the club - that wasn't possible and so they have come up with the perfect interim solution.

 

There is plenty of work to do - appointing the right CEO is crucial and will feed into the appointment of a Manager on a permanent basis. But maybe now we can all just concentrate on issues that occur on the pitch. It'd make a welcome change.

 

JWH - you passed your first footy test. Keep up the good work. And thank you!

[whitewidow]

I concur - encouraging for the future

[Cooldude]

Agreed, the whole situation after Blackburn was expertly handled. Roy being told he was gone on Thursday, don't let him do a press conference on Fri to protect him. Then announce Kenny on Sat when it was probably agreed and prepared a while ago, just to take the spotlight off him. Brilliantly done.

 

These blokes can be relied upon, have conducted themselves with absolute class since they took over

[Chili Palmer]

What an excellent start to their stewardship.

 

Having taken their time to analyse the quality of the incumbent Manager, they have made a huge decision early in their reign, the first step in a process that will ultimately define their time in Liverpool. Get this right - by 'this' I mean Kenny and then the subsequent permanent Manager, be that Kenny or AN Other - and they are all set to oversee the rebuilding of our great club. Get this wrong and who knows where we all end up???

 

Either way, they have made the decision and acted decisively. Crucially they have done this 'The Liverpool Way', i.e. behind closed doors. I have become sick of our club being operated like a bloody soap opera - arguably some of our fans deserve no better (witness the foot-stamping 'I want it now' attitude that seems to be growing by the day), but the core support of Liverpool FC and the people of Liverpool the city deserve better. Maybe now we finally have better. Appointing a caretaker is clearly not what the owners wanted when they took over but unfortunately that lack of quality of the Manager they inherited has forced them to move sooner than they wished and in a direction that was not their preference. They wanted their new CEO in place and for him to guide the decision and direction of the club - that wasn't possible and so they have come up with the perfect interim solution.

 

There is plenty of work to do - appointing the right CEO is crucial and will feed into the appointment of a Manager on a permanent basis. But maybe now we can all just concentrate on issues that occur on the pitch. It'd make a welcome change.

 

JWH - you passed your first footy test. Keep up the good work. And thank you!

 

 

Fully agree, I don't want to know what goes on behind the scenes, I only want to know about whats going on on the pitch. I don't know if this is how they always do business but even if its not they have understood how we used to do it.

 

What I will say is that the fact that Kenny was already on the payroll and had declared an interest in the job only a few months ago made the decision all that more easier for them. Imagine if they had to make the call to sack Hodgson and find someone out there? tougher task.

 

Well done and hope it carries on!

[honourablegeorge]

I hope you're right - equally, they've leaked it to the press a week ago, failed to find a permanent appointment, were happy to write off an entire season, and bowed to fan pressure, which isn't always the right thing to do.

 

I'm very much reserving judegment. What they've done today is just firefighting - they had a disaster on their hands and were forced to do something. Lot more interested in what they do long term - and so far, they somewhat dubious appointment of Commoli is all they've done, and no good has come of that yet.

[Lee W]

It's a good start. Be interesting to see what happens in the window. Konchesky and Poulsen on the transfer list for a start....

Edited January 8, 2011 by Lee W

[Cam]

Then announce Kenny on Sat when it was probably agreed and prepared a while ago, just to take the spotlight off him.

Yeah, there's no way he didn't know before he went on holiday.

[RP]

I hope you're right - equally, they've leaked it to the press a week ago, failed to find a permanent appointment, were happy to write off an entire season, and bowed to fan pressure, which isn't always the right thing to do.

 

I'm very much reserving judegment. What they've done today is just firefighting - they had a disaster on their hands and were forced to do something. Lot more interested in what they do long term - and so far, they somewhat dubious appointment of Commoli is all they've done, and no good has come of that yet.

 

 

I've highlighted the real rubbish in your post. The rest isn't much better, but your assumptions about them having written off the season are complete bullsh**.

 

It's a good start. Be interesting to see what happens in the window. Konchesky and Poulsen on the transfer list for a start....

 

 

That's Kenny's call.

[Lee W]

I hope you're right - equally, they've leaked it to the press a week ago, failed to find a permanent appointment, were happy to write off an entire season, and bowed to fan pressure, which isn't always the right thing to do.

 

I'm very much reserving judegment. What they've done today is just firefighting - they had a disaster on their hands and were forced to do something. Lot more interested in what they do long term - and so far, they somewhat dubious appointment of Commoli is all they've done, and no good has come of that yet.

 

It's far too early to judge Commoli's appointment.

[Epic Swindle]

I'm still not sure about the leak thing, think it was more of a journo pact. Didn't envy them at all trying to pick a manger mid season, but in the end I think they made possibly their only choice. They need time before any rash judgements are made.

[Gunga Din]

What an excellent start to their stewardship.

 

Having taken their time to analyse the quality of the incumbent Manager, they have made a huge decision early in their reign, the first step in a process that will ultimately define their time in Liverpool. Get this right - by 'this' I mean Kenny and then the subsequent permanent Manager, be that Kenny or AN Other - and they are all set to oversee the rebuilding of our great club. Get this wrong and who knows where we all end up???

 

Either way, they have made the decision and acted decisively. Crucially they have done this 'The Liverpool Way', i.e. behind closed doors. I have become sick of our club being operated like a bloody soap opera - arguably some of our fans deserve no better (witness the foot-stamping 'I want it now' attitude that seems to be growing by the day), but the core support of Liverpool FC and the people of Liverpool the city deserve better. Maybe now we finally have better. Appointing a caretaker is clearly not what the owners wanted when they took over but unfortunately that lack of quality of the Manager they inherited has forced them to move sooner than they wished and in a direction that was not their preference. They wanted their new CEO in place and for him to guide the decision and direction of the club - that wasn't possible and so they have come up with the perfect interim solution.

 

There is plenty of work to do - appointing the right CEO is crucial and will feed into the appointment of a Manager on a permanent basis. But maybe now we can all just concentrate on issues that occur on the pitch. It'd make a welcome change.

 

JWH - you passed your first footy test. Keep up the good work. And thank you!

 

 

a lot of sense in that Paul, as always. i think as time went on though, there was a lot of frustration on what seemed like an age to get rid of hodgson. but what you say is 100%. they are new to the sport, and had to weigh up a lot of stuff. delighted with todays announcement though

[D.Boon]

I've highlighted the real rubbish in your post. The rest isn't much better, but your assumptions about them having written off the season are complete bullsh**.

 

 

 

 

That's Kenny's call.

 

Commoli's i would have thought?

Edited January 8, 2011 by D.Boon

[honourablegeorge]

I've highlighted the real rubbish in your post. The rest isn't much better, but your assumptions about them having written off the season are complete bullsh**.

 

They were happy to leave Roy tread water until May before putting a permanent manager in place, according to what they placed in the press last week. Only the Roypocalypse has changed that.

 

As for the rest of the post being "rubbish", feel free to explain yourself. I'm reserving judgement on them until they act on the real issues. Have my doubts about Commoli. And I'm not congratulating them on keeping it all in house, when they so clearly haven't done so.

 

It's far too early to judge Commoli's appointment.

 

At the risk of repeating myself, "I'm very much reserving judegment".

[Swan Red]

I still think we can't be sure because we don't know why the decision was made. I am hopeful but remain cautiously optimistic

[RP]

They were happy to leave Roy tread water until May before putting a permanent manager in place, according to what they placed in the press last week. Only the Roypocalypse has changed that.

 

As for the rest of the post being "rubbish", feel free to explain yourself. I'm reserving judgement on them until they act on the real issues. Have my doubts about Commoli. And I'm not congratulating them on keeping it all in house, when they so clearly haven't done so.

 

 

 

At the risk of repeating myself, "I'm very much reserving judegment".

 

 

So much incorrect supposition, I wouldn't know where to start to be honest - and I suspect I'd probably be wasting my 'breath'.

 

If you're not happy, that's up to you. I hope that you and your miserable outlook will be very happy together.

 

I still think we can't be sure because we don't know why the decision was made. I am hopeful but remain cautiously optimistic

 

 

In what why?

 

The decision to remove Hodgson was made because he wasn't good enough and these guys have bought the club with a view to making us successful. They recognised that Hodgson was not the man to do that. So they removed him.

 

Ideally they would have appointed a CEO and done this over a longer period, but events made that impossible.

 

What else is there to know?

[honourablegeorge]

So much incorrect supposition, I wouldn't know where to start to be honest - and I suspect I'd probably be wasting my 'breath'.

 

If you're not happy, that's up to you. I hope that you and your miserable outlook will be very happy together.

 

Fair enough if you can't produce a coherent argument.

 

 

I'm happy Hodgson is gone. And I'm waiting to see what kind of owners NESV prove to be, rather than lauding them as geniuses because they've had a decision forced on them.

[RP]

Fair enough if you can't produce a coherent argument.

 

 

I'm happy Hodgson is gone. And I'm waiting to see what kind of owners NESV prove to be, rather than lauding them as geniuses because they've had a decision forced on them.

 

 

You do that. Enjoy.

[Dan]

Well done for making the right decision albeit a bit late in the day. Don't think it was handled expertly well but hey ho.

The next managerial appointment is the true test, this one was a gimme.

[Swan Red]

 

In what why?

 

The decision to remove Hodgson was made because he wasn't good enough and these guys have bought the club with a view to making us successful. They recognised that Hodgson was not the man to do that. So they removed him.

 

Ideally they would have appointed a CEO and done this over a longer period, but events made that impossible.

 

What else is there to know?

 

Only in as much as I think the right decision is as a result of an appropriate analysis as it is a reaction to the current state of affairs. Just to be clear I am not one who has criticised our owners I hope and believe they share my vision for the club, however this decision of itself shouldn't really be considered as a defining moment for them as I believe it is a decision that could have been made some time ago. Again this is not to criticise them but given that the previous manager was so hopefully out of his depth I'm not sure it's a decision we should be throwing bouquets at them for either.

[Davvo]

What an excellent start to their stewardship.

 

Having taken their time to analyse the quality of the incumbent Manager, they have made a huge decision early in their reign, the first step in a process that will ultimately define their time in Liverpool. Get this right - by 'this' I mean Kenny and then the subsequent permanent Manager, be that Kenny or AN Other - and they are all set to oversee the rebuilding of our great club. Get this wrong and who knows where we all end up???

 

Either way, they have made the decision and acted decisively. Crucially they have done this 'The Liverpool Way', i.e. behind closed doors. I have become sick of our club being operated like a bloody soap opera - arguably some of our fans deserve no better (witness the foot-stamping 'I want it now' attitude that seems to be growing by the day), but the core support of Liverpool FC and the people of Liverpool the city deserve better. Maybe now we finally have better. Appointing a caretaker is clearly not what the owners wanted when they took over but unfortunately that lack of quality of the Manager they inherited has forced them to move sooner than they wished and in a direction that was not their preference. They wanted their new CEO in place and for him to guide the decision and direction of the club - that wasn't possible and so they have come up with the perfect interim solution.

 

There is plenty of work to do - appointing the right CEO is crucial and will feed into the appointment of a Manager on a permanent basis. But maybe now we can all just concentrate on issues that occur on the pitch. It'd make a welcome change.

 

JWH - you passed your first footy test. Keep up the good work. And thank you!

 

Agree entirely, they've already made an adjustment to their original plans, as a result of Roy's inability to turn things round to an even moderately acceptable level. I really don't see that they could have done much more at all at this stage, the next test is support of Commoli and the manager/s over these next 2 crucial windows.

[honourablegeorge]

Frankly, it f***ing amazes me that people are queuing up to praise NESV already, despite them having done absolutely nothing yet. Seems some people didn't learn anything from the previous regime.

[Molby]

so they cleared the first hurdle

 

next up: Give Kenny £50m gross to spend in January (in conjunction with Comoli, or whatever)

 

then another £100m in Summer - then we can catch up quick.............and that will be ace

[Bromage]

Whilst I agree with RP that this action appears measured and not in keeping with the "he's got three games to save his job" media mentality, what impresses me most is that NESV have taken time to listen to both balanced and vehement protest and simply allowed the evidence to present itself and then act accordingly. Our press have now become dangerous in anticipating headlines and in many case printing them before they happen and therefore isn't it great to read "exclusive" stories from yesterday which said Hodgson would be in charge at OT because Kenny was on holiday?

 

I long for the days, just as in the past, where I didn't believe it was necessary for me to question the actions of the club because I believed we were managed by people of principal and could be trusted to represent the "Liverpool Way". I hope and I am optimistic that those days are returning now; JH, please don't prove me wrong, back Kenny with what he needs in the next month and beyond.

 

P.S. Oh and please get rid of that destructive idiot Purslow.

[Boca]

Frankly, it f***ing amazes me that people are queuing up to praise NESV already, despite them having done absolutely nothing yet. Seems some people didn't learn anything from the previous regime.

 

 

So apart from saving the club from administration (which would have seen us 4 points adrift at the bottom of the table today), and getting rid of Hodgson (albeit a litle later than ideal), what else could they have done?

 

What else were you expecting from them?

[Roscoe]

Whilst I agree with RP that this action appears measured and not in keeping with the "he's got three games to save his job" media mentality, what impresses me most is that NESV have taken time to listen to both balanced and vehement protest and simply allowed the evidence to present itself and then act accordingly. Our press have now become dangerous in anticipating headlines and in many case printing them before they happen and therefore isn't it great to read "exclusive" stories from yesterday which said Hodgson would be in charge at OT because Kenny was on holiday?

 

I long for the days, just as in the past, where I didn't believe it was necessary for me to question the actions of the club because I believed we were managed by people of principal and could be trusted to represent the "Liverpool Way". I hope and I am optimistic that those days are returning now; JH, please don't prove me wrong, back Kenny with what he needs in the next month and beyond.

 

P.S. Oh and please get rid of that destructive idiot Purslow.

 

 

that about sums it up. as a supporter who can remember matches going back quarter of a century or more, I realise now more than ever that results on the pitch are one thing, but what I have always loved and had started to feel had gone forever is a club I could be part of in spirit and believe in, an institution to be proud of. I just want honest people with dignity and integrity at all levels of the club so that I still feel like singing when we are losing.

 

now lets smash those manc b******s!