How Long Will the Next Manager Get?

[Snookie]

There has been quite a lot of talk about the Liverpool Way in the last while. A key element of that has always been the respect shown to managers. Hodgson is an obvious anomaly. Very few of us wanted him appointed in the first place and he has done absolutely nothing since then to warrant support. Within six months he's gone from being a poor appointment to the most despised figure in the 40 something years I've been supporting the club (that's on the playing side. H&G are something else again) .

 

The current situation raiOnce he's fired, will our next manager be given the time to try different things without pressure or will a significant number of fans demand instant success? In other words, how long will he get before he comes under pressure?

 

 

 

[Tosh]

Much of that depends on whether you see Rafa as being got rid of for not being successful: if yes, add in Woy and you could argue we are close to being Newcastle

 

If you see Woy as an anomaly in terms of being got rid of....

 

Also depends on the successor but as many on here have said: it's not the winning thats important, it's competing and getting the best from the players. If whoever can come in and do that over the next 18 months, then we have progress and improvement...

[davewigan]

There has been quite a lot of talk about the Liverpool Way in the last while. A key element of that has always been the respect shown to managers. Hodgson is an obvious anomaly. Very few of us wanted him appointed in the first place and he has done absolutely nothing since then to warrant support. Within six months he's gone from being a poor appointment to the most despised figure in the 40 something years I've been supporting the club (that's on the playing side. H&G are something else again) .

 

The current situation raiOnce he's fired, will our next manager be given the time to try different things without pressure or will a significant number of fans demand instant success? In other words, how long will he get before he comes under pressure?

Depends if its rafa or someone else.

[boohog]

Because of everything that's happened I get the feeling we might need to do a Newcastle and get relegated to knock some sense back into our fanbase and remind them what a good manager can actually do wiith a restricted budget.

[cymrococh]

There has been quite a lot of talk about the Liverpool Way in the last while. A key element of that has always been the respect shown to managers. Hodgson is an obvious anomaly. Very few of us wanted him appointed in the first place and he has done absolutely nothing since then to warrant support. Within six months he's gone from being a poor appointment to the most despised figure in the 40 something years I've been supporting the club (that's on the playing side. H&G are something else again) .

 

The current situation raiOnce he's fired, will our next manager be given the time to try different things without pressure or will a significant number of fans demand instant success? In other words, how long will he get before he comes under pressure?

Do you want the answer in days, weeks or months?

[schmuckdonald]

Well 'The Liverpool Way' hasn't ever been to sack managers quickly before, don't think NESV are the type to do it either. Roy is just a massive Purslow shaped black hole that needs a kicking.

[Knox_Harrington]

Depends. The next manager may just be a stopgap until the summer.

 

For the next proper long term manager, well if he has a vision, and his teams broadly communicate that vision for the side to be challenging for honours regularly and his sides play aggressive - not attacking or defensive football but aggressive in all forms - then he'll be fine.

[fred milne]

Depends. The next manager may just be a stopgap until the summer.

 

For the next proper long term manager, well if he has a vision, and his teams broadly communicate that vision for the side to be challenging for honours regularly and his sides play aggressive - not attacking or defensive football but aggressive in all forms - then he'll be fine.

I think the last bit is right and if we can see he is trying to us to play the right way then I think there will be patience.

[Cobs]

Because of everything that's happened I get the feeling we might need to do a Newcastle and get relegated to knock some sense back into our fanbase and remind them what a good manager can actually do wiith a restricted budget.

 

 

Relegation, Ooooh relegation, relegation

that's what you need

if you want to be the best

and if you want to beat the rest

oooh, relegation's what you need

 

Depends. The next manager may just be a stopgap until the summer.

 

For the next proper long term manager, well if he has a vision, and his teams broadly communicate that vision for the side to be challenging for honours regularly and his sides play aggressive - not attacking or defensive football but aggressive in all forms - then he'll be fine.

 

aye - 6 games it is

[Eiler99]

I'll judge him after his first press conference. f*** waiting for results.

[growler]

H and g along with purslow and Roy with his signing and 90 year old gk coach are all anomalies brought together by a perfect storm of circumstances. Nesv seem more in line with our thinking as was rafa.

 

Most of that regime is nearly gone and I am sure once Roy and his cronies are gone normal life will resume.

[superledger]

I think the new permanent manager will get a long time. While this is a good thing, we are also back to 'five year plans', 'turning corners' and lots of other cliches. I reckon it'll be a long time before we're beating Madrid et al again. A looooooooong time.

[DanielS]

Six months.

[boohog]

 

Relegation, Ooooh relegation, relegation

that's what you need

if you want to be the best

and if you want to beat the rest

oooh, relegation's what you need

 

 

 

aye - 6 games it is

 

I'd prefer it if the alternative is this poison.

[smithdown]

Depends on whether or not he can be trusted.

[David Hodgson]

Six months.

 

 

and with such simplicity the question surely is answered......

[Ethan]

Yep - 6 months

[superledger]

and with such simplicity the question surely is answered......

 

I reckon six years would be closer.

[CarraLegend]

Plenty of time as long as he's a proper manager and not a pensioner version of Glen Roeder.

[superledger]

Plenty of time as long as he's a proper manager and not a pensioner version of Glen Roeder.

 

Exactment.

[David Hodgson]

Plenty of time as long as he's a proper manager and not a pensioner version of Glen Roeder.

 

Yeah, but what does 'plenty of time' mean ? Say we got Vilas Boas in and he loses 6 of his first 10 games, is everyone going to stay calm ? Or Rijkard comes in and his points average is no better than Hodgson's for 6 months.

 

For me 6 months is enough time to allow for a honeymoon period or early adjustment disasters, and for a manager to begin to have an influence over a team. Even if the first 6 months as a whole isn't good, as long as there are real signs of progress being made towards the end of the period, then you can say the guy deserves to be given a chance.

[DanielS]

Yeah, but what does 'plenty of time' mean ? Say we got Vilas Boas in and he loses 6 of his first 10 games, is everyone going to stay calm ? Or Rijkard comes in and his points average is no better than Hodgson's for 6 months.

 

For me 6 months is enough time to allow for a honeymoon period or early adjustment disasters, and for a manager to begin to have an influence over a team. Even if the first 6 months as a whole isn't good, as long as there are real signs of progress being made towards the end of the period, then you can say the guy deserves to be given a chance.

 

I think we are bright enough to see which direction the club is going in regardless of results though. I can sort of handle losing after we put in an effort and play positively. I just can't stand the miserable capitulations.

[DanielS]

Just had a thought. If the new man gets Torres to go back to blonde he can have an extra 6 months on top of the first 6. That brunette look is holding us back more than Hodgson.

[Cam]

He won't get much time at all. The Internet Terrorism thing was great for removing G&H but it's never gonna stop now - one draw after 12 successive wins will see them rise again, tweeting death threats to Henry & the missus.

 

The thing SoS should be concentrating on now? Uniting fans and putting a few in order.

[smithdown]

Internet terrorism hasn't dethroned roy and we are past halfway.