Flight Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 (edited) I'm starting a new thread on this because it's such blatent propaganda and contains such specific details that it can only be a leak from the club, in which case we are going to hear more about it. http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/hodgson-left-to-fight-for-future-as-owners-doubts-grow-2172428.html Hodgson is a popular figure within Anfield and there is a feeling among some that he is too candid and articulate for his own good at times. Nothing the manager said in his questioning of the supporters was factually inaccurate there has, indeed, been little fans' support for him and his language on Wednesday night was not intemperate. But by calling for better support he has rendered his relationship with supporters an even more dislocated one. There is also a feeling perfectly justified from some quarters at Anfield that Fernando Torres has escaped scot-free from the wrath of fans, while Hodgson has taken all the abuse. Hodgson believes one of the reasons why smaller teams are regularly beating larger ones in this Premier League season is that the days of journeymen teams are over and that every side has at least one elite potential match-winner, from Wigan's Charles N'Zogbia to Wolves' Matt Jarvis. With each side capable of achieving a decent level, Hodgson reasons, delivery from that star player is more often the difference between success and failure. Torres is one of the star men for Liverpool and, despite playing in every League game bar one this season and enjoying a contract way beyond that of Jamie Carragher, he does not look interested. It has not been lost on some that Torres' only star performance was in the first half against Chelsea, the side to which he would welcome a move. Privately, Hodgson believes the Spaniard's problems are physical and psychological, but Liverpool have stored up trouble by making the player bigger than the club, whose former managing director Christian Purslow was desperate to keep the striker as part of the process of making the club attractive to buyers. The informal understanding reached before Henry's New England Sports Ventures group took over was that Torres would be permitted to leave at the end of this season if Liverpool had failed to qualify for the Champions League and a £50m offer came in. Now, the 26-year-old seems to be beyond the manager's control. Tactically, Hodgson's style, with Pepe Reina punting long balls in the direction of Torres when he needs the ball played to his feet, is often less suited to him, but that does not account for his poor season. Torres the terrible After some great years at Liverpool, 2010 has seen the striker struggle for form and fitness, looking increasingly unsettled. March Penalty spot disruption goes unpunished. After heading Liverpool ahead at Old Trafford, Torres then kicked the spot before a Wayne Rooney penalty. Torres went unpunished by the FA. April Hauled off at St Andrew's Withdrawn after 65 minutes of a 1-1 draw at Birmingham City, prompting a bemused reaction from Steven Gerrard. June/July Limited role in World Cup glory Torres was clearly unfit at the World Cup in South Africa. He started four of Spain's seven matches, but was substituted in all of them and only once lasted beyond 58 minutes. Scored no goals. September Accused by Ferguson Sir Alex Ferguson said that Torres made "an absolute meal" of a foul by John O'Shea in Liverpool's 3-2 defeat to United. "There is no doubt he tried" to get O'Shea sent off. November Scores against Chelsea and Wigan Both goals are his in a 2-0 win over Chelsea at Anfield. Then strikes his fifth goal of the season at the JJB and has not scored for Liverpool since. Seen turning his back and looking uninterested as Jermain Defoe missed a penalty in the 2-1 defeat at White Hart Lane. Edited December 31, 2010 by Flight
Rimbeux Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 (edited) Yeh, just read that and was going to post it. Hodgson has gone for Torres big style. He clearly blames him for his trouble and is going to try and pull him in to it. Hodgson has form for believing it's about your star men doing something and keeping everyone else organised. What was the one about not seeing much difference between sides in the CL knockouts? Herbet seems to have been busy, the first half reads like he's been on the phone to Henry. Doesn't read like he's only spoken to one person though Edited December 31, 2010 by Rimbeux
Ramón Benítez Hernández Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 f***inell. I want our club back now. f*** the media. f*** the senior sources. f*** Purslow. f*** Ayre. f*** Roy. f*** you NESV, do something ffs or you will not have a club. We, the fans ARE the club.
Swipe Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 f***ing hell. Shocking. f*** off Hodgson you c***. Your scumbag hack mates will get you another job.
Paddock170 Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 Looking forward to his next article "Rooney the Rotten" March - - Ankle-gate. After twisting his ankle against Munich he performed miracles in making the return leg. Only a lucky strike from Robben stopped Sir Alex from fulfilling his destiny once again. April - Wayne's ankle makes another dramatic recovery only to fail within minutes. Instead of looking a fool Sir Alex is surely trying to get England's greatest player fit for the World Cup. - Wayne is voted 2010 PFA Player of the Year. May - Wayne sits at home with England's ankle in a cast. June/July - After conning the nation he is fit Wayne disappears in South Africa (possibly looking for Winnie Mandela who he has heard is a bit of alright) - His quote "Nice to see your home fans boo you, that's loyal supporters" has still to be apologised for. It is rumoured Wayne actually looked away when Clint Dempsey's shot went in. Had he spotted Winnie in the crowd. August - After some time off he spent money trying to stop allegations of a sex scandal. People were on his side as the person involved was 21 and not the usual age his taste required. Sir Alex wins the Community Shield and heralds the next greatest player in the world. A dracula haired Bulgarian who was purchased at some slight expense and was sure to fulfil his destiny with Sir Alex at his side. September - Wayne throws away all his Bob Marley CDs. All he can hear is "No Woman No Kai". He is saved from this song by being "rested" for the game at the home of bitterness Goodison Park. Again Sir Alex has stopped a potential flashpoint with his brilliance. October - The devious plan by Wayne to get more money is hatched. He says what everyone knows - Fletcher, O'Shea, Anderson and others are crap. They are not fit to play in his brilliance. His one goal in open play is the one he dines out on. He claims that the great Sir Alex has lied about his ankle. It was not his ankle that was the problem but his loins throbbing every pension day. He wanted more money for his brilliance but instead was sent to a Nike factory to pack shoes. "That would show him" said Sir Alex, "I will show him the true value of money, he can work with all those kids and old women". It was then that Sir Alex realised his mistake. He called the Ginger one in the USA. Like the Wizard of Oz nobody saw Malcolm Glazer, he was too ginger for people to deal with. He explained his predicament and he masterfully gained a new contract for the greedy Wayne. All was now well. November - Wayne repays him by scoring a penalty. The ManU fans love him again. Thank the Lord for Sir Alex. Copyright LMA 2010 (Allegedly).
Damian_de Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 And as we already know, plenty in Anfield were keen to stick it to Torres during the Wolves game and whoever is briefing for this will be aware of that. Nice. I'm expecting this tactic to continue.
_00_deathscar Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 And as we already know, plenty in Anfield were keen to stick it to Torres during the Wolves game and whoever is briefing for this will be aware of that. Nice. I'm expecting this tactic to continue. It definitely 'works' doesn't it? You can't take on the f***ing media.
Snookie Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 Read Herbert's article earlier and was going to post it in the media thread. Its an absolute classic. My favourite lines are: Hodgson is a popular figure within Anfield and there is a feeling among some that he is too candid and articulate for his own good at times. Nothing the manager said in his questioning of the supporters was factually inaccurate – there has, indeed, been little fans' support for him – and his language on Wednesday night was not intemperate.Yip, Roy is obviously too eloquent and honest for his own good.....
Cooldude Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 The guy's as articulate as a 6 month old baby, moans and cries like one, too
Zoob Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 Second time I've read "Torres has become bigger than the club" Almost as if someone is trying to turn us against him so we're less pissed off when he leaves.... I admit he's not looked particularly bothered most of the time I've seen him play this season, but given our 'tactics' this is hardly surprising...
Ibby Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 f***ing shocking article. I think the Internet terrorists might have to be reformed in order to get this clown out. My fear is that the NESV have the same views as that article hence an explanation for their lack of action
drdooom Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 Don't worry, his replacement Carlton Cole will definitely be smaller than the club so all will be well.
Gomez Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 and enjoying a contract way beyond that of Jamie Carragher, Erm, there's a reason for that.
Bailo Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 (edited) Dear God. I really fear for the club under him and NESV, they just can't see the wood from the trees. They've been sold a story and seem to be buying into it hook, line and sinker. Though at least Nando is still here to be blamed, if Rafa had stayed he'd have left last summer apparently. Only thing keeping me from really going off the deep end is Gibo's tattle, and that's tenuous. Edited December 31, 2010 by Jernau Morat Gurgeh
Gomez Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 Though at least Nando is still here to be blamed, if Rafa had stayed he'd have left last summer apparently. I wonder if there is anyone, not called Hodgson, that still believes that transparent garbage.
Benzo-13 Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 Thats a f***ing disgusting article.Written to divide fan opinion and to dilute the flak Hodgson's getting. Torres is a Ferrari being used to plough a field under this c***.
koppper Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 "Tactically, Hodgson's style, with Pepe Reina punting long balls in the direction of Torres when he needs the ball played to his feet, is often less suited to him, but that does not account for his poor season."
nb Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 How I'd like to hear the crowd really attack Hodgson tomorrow....and mix it up with some rounds of the Torres-song please...
Andy-oh-six Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 f*** off Hodgson and f*** off Purslow. Briefing against Torres and lots of 'fans' will lap I up because they know f***ing nothing.
fred milne Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 Yeh, just read that and was going to post it. Hodgson has gone for Torres big style. He clearly blames him for his trouble and is going to try and pull him in to it. Hodgson has form for believing it's about your star men doing something and keeping everyone else organised. What was the one about not seeing much difference between sides in the CL knockouts?I agree that this is a pretty wretched and transparent attempt to deflect blame. However, notwithstanding the poor service he is receiving for the mostpart, I do think Torres needs to look at himself - even Babel showed a lot more appetite when he came on.
CarraLegend Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 "Tactically, Hodgson's style, with Pepe Reina punting long balls in the direction of Torres when he needs the ball played to his feet, is often less suited to him" Sums it up really, a goal a game in the league last season to one in three this season. And the reason is the manager and setting up to counter attack the likes of Wolves and Blackpool. At Anfield.
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