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The c*nt also said something along the lines of "real LFC fans only, not the myth peddling ones". Many assume he was referring to Tomkins, who uses raw stats and facts to justify his opinions. The likes of this c*nt are the ones that peddle myth. Yet he has the audacity to come out with such statements...

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  On 07/11/2010 at 18:27, Rimbeux said:

He said that by December Hodgson's work on the training ground will start to bear fruit.

 

Did he not go on a 180 U-turn though for the Blackburn game, pressing high up the pitch after the disastrous passive performances against Blackpool and Everton?

Chili Palmer

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  On 07/11/2010 at 18:30, Redray said:

Tactics in second half were sublime.

 

I thought I was watching Fulham.

 

 

I think you could nit pick about dropping so deep, but its the champions we were up against, they are a much much better team than us so they were always going to press us back.

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  On 07/11/2010 at 18:32, Chili Palmer said:

I think you could nit pick about dropping so deep, but its the champions we were up against, they are a much much better team than us so they were always going to press us back.

 

Ok.

 

Let's see if Roy does this everytime we are ahead.

 

Wigan next.

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  On 07/11/2010 at 18:28, abc said:

The c*nt also said something along the lines of "real LFC fans only, not the myth peddling ones". Many assume he was referring to Tomkins, who uses raw stats and facts to justify his opinions. The likes of this c*nt are the ones that peddle myth. Yet he has the audacity to come out with such statements...

 

Wasn't that in reference to the tweet where he claimed to have called one fan (who had been baiting him) stupid, and the word spread around that he called Liverpool fans who didn't agree with his view on Hodgson stupid, and so he claims that to be a myth. He will know in his conscience what he actually meant at the the time, but that was the root of it I thought.

 

  On 07/11/2010 at 18:30, abc said:

Did he not go on a 180 U-turn though for the Blackburn game, pressing high up the pitch after the disastrous passive performances against Blackpool and Everton?

 

True enough. I'm not sure the discussion that I saw was overly tactical, just his punt/hunch/desire that whatever it was Hodgson was trying to do it would come right. He's probably just talking with vague and baseless opinion backed up with not much more than time spent writing about football

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Jonathan Wilson made the same point from a different angle, he said that Hodgsons training methods are effective and take time to be hammered into players but they are boring. Wilson was skeptical about if "big players" would accept such methods.

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  On 07/11/2010 at 19:18, Spion kop said:

Jonathan Wilson made the same point from a different angle, he said that Hodgsons training methods are effective and take time to be hammered into players but they are boring. Wilson was skeptical about if "big players" would accept such methods.

 

 

Was a concern of mine. Fulham players would tell you it's pretty much all pattern of play and quite dull, if effective for them. as with any coach/manager, players buy into results

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  On 07/11/2010 at 18:39, Rimbeux said:

Wasn't that in reference to the tweet where he claimed to have called one fan (who had been baiting him) stupid, and the word spread around that he called Liverpool fans who didn't agree with his view on Hodgson stupid, and so he claims that to be a myth. He will know in his conscience what he actually meant at the the time, but that was the root of it I thought.

 

True enough. I'm not sure the discussion that I saw was overly tactical, just his punt/hunch/desire that whatever it was Hodgson was trying to do it would come right. He's probably just talking with vague and baseless opinion backed up with not much more than time spent writing about football

 

RE the tweets, if that's what it was then fair enough.

 

Regarding the methods though, Hodgson got ar$y with a journo who kept asking him if his approach (over the last 35 years) could be translated to LFC successfully or whether he was going to adapt. We know that he likes his teams passive but organised off the ball, rather than pressing higher up the pitch aggressively. This was the approach up until the Everton game. Before that, hardly any sign of what was displayed against Blackburn which energised, and gave hope to everyone...

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  On 07/11/2010 at 18:32, Chili Palmer said:

I think you could nit pick about dropping so deep, but its the champions we were up against, they are a much much better team than us so they were always going to press us back.

 

no, they're actually not that much better than us

 

man for man, out there today, we where easily as good as them

 

the first half was brilliant, and credit where its due, but the second half was hodgsonesque, and we asking for trouble, why ask a team to "try and break you down", rather than just dominating play?

 

i didnt want to whinge about today, because im delighted with the result,

 

but im sorry, we are Liverpool, and we are in Anfield, we should be the one dominating the play, from first whistle until the last,

 

you may think that sitting back and "playing dead" is acceptable for a Liverpool team at home, i on the other hand do not, i want us to be a wrecking ball, not a kittens ball of wool

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If Hodgson's training methods are so effective how is it that Fulham failed to win an away game all last season?

Hodgson is quite simply not up to the standards expected of a Liverpool manager; not in his coaching ability, his handling of players, his tactical acumen, his reading of a game, his judgement of player or his handling of the media; he remains a mediocre mid to lower level premier league manager.

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  On 07/11/2010 at 20:18, chrisbonnie said:

no, they're actually not that much better than us

 

I think they are light years ahead of us at the minute. We do have alot of room to improve, first half showed what we can do, but they do it over a season.

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