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LAST WC? S.A.? Only 2 games went to pens

 

Sepp Blatter has announced that Fifa is considering scrapping extra time at World Cups or reviving the 'golden goal' rule.

 

Blatter, the Fifa president, wants to encourage more free-flowing football at tournaments and was concerned teams' priority in the last World Cup in extra-time was to secure a penalty shoot-out.

 

Football's governing body will now look at whether they should go straight to a shoot-out after 90 minutes or re-introduce the golden goal rule where the first team to score in extra time wins the game.

 

Blatter said: "We have to try to find a way to encourage free-flowing football in tournaments like the World Cup, with teams playing to win. We plan to take the opportunity to look at the concept of extra time as well.

 

"Often we see teams set themselves up even more defensively in extra time, in an attempt to avoid conceding a goal at all costs. To prevent this, we could go directly to a penalty shoot-out at full time, or reintroduce the golden goal rule. We'll see what emerges from the committee meetings."

 

Blatter said some teams at the last World Cup in South Africa played for a draw from the first whistle.

 

"Football has become such a strategic game, with teams moving as a unit," he said. "It can be an impressive sight; gone are the days of simple tactics where you attacked then defended.

 

"But in the first few matches of the group stage in South Africa, we witnessed some teams that went out to avoid defeat, that were playing for a draw from the outset. This is a topic that I would like to discuss at upcoming Football and Technical Committee meetings."

 

Blatter stressed however Spain's triumph was well-deserved and he also praised the quality of Argentina, Germany and Ghana.

 

"For several World Cups now, we've been expecting a new champion to emerge," he added. "There was an element of hope that the champion would come from a continent that hadn't produced a winner before. South Korea came very close for Asia in 2002, while this time around, a couple of centimetres were the difference between Ghana making the semi-final and being eliminated.

 

"That said, Spain's success was well-deserved; in my opinion, they along with Argentina produced the highest quality of play. On top of that, they're both young teams, just like the German side that finished third, and Ghana. That's a good sign."

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A. I agree that it is better to try and devise ways to discourage teams from playing for draws and penos.

 

B. Golden goal does not discourage that tactic, it only works if the game is played as 'next goal is the winner' with no end time, as there is a 30 mins limit, those teams still take the same approach - ...... we have no chance of scoring so lets just hope they dont score and hold out until 120mins

 

C. Pens after 90mins means that games at 0-0 after 60mins means that ET tactics will be adopted ........ but only earlier. The goal is the same.

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Hang on, let me get this straight.

 

Apparently, Septic Blabber thinks too many teams are looking towards penalty shoot outs.

 

To avoid this, he plans scrapping that thing between full time and penalty shoot outs?

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Any alternative to penalties is always going to be less attractive to the team who's less likely to win by it - so they'll still have an incentive to play for penalties where their chances are approximately 50/50 - unless the're English or Dutch of course

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Any alternative to penalties is always going to be less attractive to the team who's less likely to win by it - so they'll still have an incentive to play for penalties where their chances are approximately 50/50 - unless the're English or Dutch of course

 

It's what made the Germany v Italy semi final of 2006 such a classic

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There is merit in not allowing draws in group games too. Straight to the game resolution mechanism after 90 minutes if it's a draw.

 

Dont agree with that at all Dus. A football game is a football game and if the perceived stronger team cannot win then they cannot win, it should not be dragged to penalties to settle it if there are 3 games in the goup.

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Dont agree with that at all Dus. A football game is a football game and if the perceived stronger team cannot win then they cannot win, it should not be dragged to penalties to settle it if there are 3 games in the goup.

 

In general I agree but I think tournament football is a little different in character and purpose and could do with an extra result facilitator.

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In general I agree but I think tournament football is a little different in character and purpose and could do with an extra result facilitator.

 

It would be too much of a fundamental shift. Pens are only there because a winner is needed in a head-to-head match, if its a league then a draw is fine.

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It would be too much of a fundamental shift. Pens are only there because a winner is needed in a head-to-head match, if its a league then a draw is fine.

 

I'm all for rules being applied consistently across the board, to all levels of football. So in fairness I probably wouldn't support it if it were to be rolled out across normal league football.

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I'm all for rules being applied consistently across the board, to all levels of football. So in fairness I probably wouldn't support it if it were to be rolled out across normal league football.

 

Sorry, I was a bit vague. I was talking about the mini leagues in the World Cup because if it started there then there is tendancy for the test run in the Europa League, CL and Euro's.

 

I think draws are a valuable part of the mini league process. One team may need a point and the other may need 3. However, if you're suggestion was taken then the team that needs the win still has the fall back position of pens.

 

I dont think you are too strongly behind this Dus, but rather airing it as a preponderance and therefore, I wont continue.

 

I do support iniatives for better football but I dont think this is it.

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