If FIFA are going to make changes by using technology

[Jon]

Personally I'd like a 5th official watching a replay who has a feed to the guy in the middle. Only one or two replays any more and the game has moved on.

 

This 5th official can make a recommendation to the main referee on critical events only, goal line, major offsides (Tevez), etc. If the ref chooses to ignore the call he can, but would have to include the reason in his match report.

 

The 5th official is not there for the ref to refer to as that is where the slowing down of the game comes in.

 

The 5th official could also be used for citing of off the ball incidences, with retrospective punishment dealt out by the match referee (yellow or red card)

 

Whilst they're at it (altho not really in the technology modus operandi) I would also like to see them introduce an "orange" card for offences not worthy of a red, but too stupid for a yellow (Pique for the Paraguayan penalty for instance), the orange card basically tells the coach to sub the player off now (or at the next break in play), thereby using up a sub but not reducing the team to ten men. It's something we use in junior games instead of issuing a red card, because reducing the numbers can turn the games into a farce

[Hassony]

Personally I'd like a 5th official watching a replay who has a feed to the guy in the middle. Only one or two replays any more and the game has moved on.

 

This 5th official can make a recommendation to the main referee on critical events only, goal line, major offsides (Tevez), etc. If the ref chooses to ignore the call he can, but would have to include the reason in his match report.

 

The 5th official is not there for the ref to refer to as that is where the slowing down of the game comes in.

 

The 5th official could also be used for citing of off the ball incidences, with retrospective punishment dealt out by the match referee (yellow or red card)

 

Whilst they're at it (altho not really in the technology modus operandi) I would also like to see them introduce an "orange" card for offences not worthy of a red, but too stupid for a yellow (Pique for the Paraguayan penalty for instance), the orange card basically tells the coach to sub the player off now (or at the next break in play), thereby using up a sub but not reducing the team to ten men. It's something we use in junior games instead of issuing a red card, because reducing the numbers can turn the games into a farce

 

I like the idea of the 5th ref, I though of something similar myself

 

don't like the orange card idea

[aka Dus]

Think everyone should have a proper read of the laws of the game before any opinion about introducing "technology" is formed.

 

The referee's opinion is the only important thing. It's not black and white and it never has been, no matter how much know-nothing pundits would like it to be.

[Jon]

Think everyone should have a proper read of the laws of the game before any opinion about introducing "technology" is formed.

 

The referee's opinion is the only important thing. It's not black and white and it never has been, no matter how much know-nothing pundits would like it to be.

 

Appreciate that but Blatter, who knows less than most, has stated that he will look at introducing technology, so hypothetically what would you like that to be

[Kvarme Ate My Food]

This guy gets none of the s*** I get for my username, I notice.

[Hassony]

I thought it was you at first

[Epic Swindle]

It's ridiculous that we don't already have goal line technology. FIFA are stuck in the past with this idealist tosh about human error. It would make the officials' job a lot easier and any incident like Lampards effort would be cleared up within seconds instead of the confusion that ensues.

[Stevie H]

This guy gets none of the s*** I get for my username, I notice.

if he had 'formerly known as what the f***ing hell does that mean' under his name he might do.

[John am Rhein]

Think everyone should have a proper read of the laws of the game before any opinion about introducing "technology" is formed.

 

The referee's opinion is the only important thing. It's not black and white and it never has been, no matter how much know-nothing pundits would like it to be.

 

potentially, the wording of the laws of the game may need to be amended - certainly if the introduction of technology is to be non-farcical

 

I think the best proposal is (as above) for the 5th (4th?) referee to have video access and the ability/authority to interrupt the game (say within 30 or 60 seconds?) and overturn a decision

[ManxRed]

When the ball goes for an innocuous throw in on the halfway line and both sets of players immediately thrust their hands in the air, looking at the ref, and saying 'our ball' when in truth at least 11 of them know full well it wasn't their ball, should result in electrode shock to two electrodes attached the testicles of every player. The side who's throw in it clearly wasn't gets 20,000v to the nads when their hands go up.

 

That'll stamp that sort of thing out of the game in no time.

[Cobs]

I'm in favour of the challenges system - a la Tennis/Cricket

 

 

Each team allowed 3 challenges per match.

 

 

After an incident happens the manager (or if he's sitting in the stand) a coach slings a yellow flag on to the pitch (this can be relayed to the headpiece of the ref by the 4th official) - should happen within 10 seconds - play continues til either the ball goes out of play or a suitable passage of play (e.g. the keeper has the ball in his arms) allows the ref to stop the game and the 4th official reviews the event on TV.

 

If the flag thrower is correct, they keep the 3 challenges, if they get it wrong they lose one.

 

Should prevent frivolous challenges keeping the game flowing in the main.

[Maldini]

The lad who created the Hawkeye technology has already tested a goal-line system that's 100% accurate. The Premier League want it to be brought in but FIFA (unsurprisingly) are dragging their heels. No delay, if it's a goal then a buzzer goes off in the refs ear and vibrates on his arm, if it's not it doesn't. Simple.

Edited July 5, 2010 by Maldini

[Hassony]

The lad who created the Hawkeye technology has already tested a goal-line system that's 100% accurate. The Premier League want it to be brought in but FIFA (unsurprisingly) are dragging their heels.

 

maybe it's because blatter didn't get the brown bag that he asked for

[Maldini]

maybe it's because blatter didn't get the brown bag that he asked for

 

No maybe about it

[Bailo]

No maybe about it

I was going to ask, what exactly is FIFA stalling on this for? What do they fear or want?

[ManxRed]

What do they fear or want?

 

50,000 Euros in unmarked notes and varied denominations?

[eth]

I'm in favour of the challenges system - a la Tennis/CricketEach team allowed 3 challenges per match.After an incident happens the manager (or if he's sitting in the stand) a coach slings a yellow flag on to the pitch (this can be relayed to the headpiece of the ref by the 4th official) - should happen within 10 seconds - play continues til either the ball goes out of play or a suitable passage of play (e.g. the keeper has the ball in his arms) allows the ref to stop the game and the 4th official reviews the event on TV.If the flag thrower is correct, they keep the 3 challenges, if they get it wrong they lose one.Should prevent frivolous challenges keeping the game flowing in the main.

The last ten minutes of games would degenerate into a morass of challenges and substitutions. 5th ref is perfect. The question is whether he has veto power over the ref, or acts as an advisor.

 

The lad who created the Hawkeye technology has already tested a goal-line system that's 100% accurate. The Premier League want it to be brought in but FIFA (unsurprisingly) are dragging their heels. No delay, if it's a goal then a buzzer goes off in the refs ear and vibrates on his arm, if it's not it doesn't. Simple.

I think 'chip in the ball' style technology would be about as effective as having a video ref, more expensive, and much less useful. So I'd rather they introduced a video ref straight away.

 

The orange card idea is needlessly complicated, but I would have a rugby union style clock (that stops when the ball goes out of play), to cut out timewasting. Also it's obvious to everyone that clear diving and incorrectly judged dangerous play should be punished after the game.

Edited July 5, 2010 by eth

[fyds]

High-powered rifles with nightscopes and laser tracking as appropriate for snipers whenever Blatter, Platini, Terry or Ferguson are in the vicinity of a featured stadium.

[ManxRed]

High-powered rifles with nightscopes and laser tracking as appropriate for snipers whenever Blatter, Platini, Terry or Ferguson are in the vicinity of a featured stadium.

 

Or tell the existing snipers to stop shooting Drogba and Robben every 5 minutes and tell them to re-aim.

[Epic Swindle]

I think 'chip in the ball' style technology would be about as effective as having a video ref, more expensive, and much less useful.

 

Why? With the chip the decision is almost instantaneous and removes the need to go to a time consuming video ref.

[Gerry]

The last ten minutes of games would degenerate into a morass of challenges and substitutions.

 

Is a fair point.

 

5th official. Watches video. Ref can stop play and consult with him if he feels it necessary. Leave it at that.

[eth]

Why? With the chip the decision is almost instantaneous and removes the need to go to a time consuming video ref.

Those situations only occur once every twenty games or so. I'd accept an extra thirty seconds gap in those rare occasions to have a video ref who can deal not only with that, but also penalty appeals, off the ball incidents and bad tackles.

Edited July 5, 2010 by eth

[Epic Swindle]

Those situations only occur once every twenty games or so. I'd accept an extra thirty seconds gap in those rare occasions to have a video ref who can deal not only with that, but also penalty appeals, off the ball incidents and bad tackles.

 

I think I could live with those decisions still being left to the officials as imo it would lead to too many stoppages. The goaline technology is already there and would completely eliminate any grey area for the ref with the minimum of fuss.

[StevieC]

5th official to review any contentious incident (much like in rugby when there is a debate over a valid try or not) where a match critical decision is to be made, at the referees discretion.

 

So, ball over the line, foul in or out of penalty box, was that a professional foul or a dive ect ect.

 

Ref should have the ability to punish, with physical violence if necessary, any player who tries to force his hand in terms of using such a system.

[Frosty Jack]

Is a fair point.

 

5th official. Watches video. Ref can stop play and consult with him if he feels it necessary. Leave it at that.

 

yep, that's it.

no slower than consulting the 4th official or linesman, possibly quicker.