some nonsense spouted on here

[jimbolala]

about forcing RBS to do this or placards, posters etc forcing GH out ffs stop going to the match and giving them money. it wont take too many games for them to take the hint.

if you keep giving them money, they wont give a toss about posters etc. its like an ex girlfriend still giving you a bit and you trying to forget about them

 

repeat stop giving them money, that is if you really want them out

[Rocheteau]

about forcing RBS to do this or placards, posters etc forcing GH out ffs stop going to the match and giving them money. it wont take too many games for them to take the hint.

if you keep giving them money, they wont give a toss about posters etc. its like an ex girlfriend still giving you a bit and you trying to forget about them

 

repeat stop giving them money, that is if you really want them out

 

Ah if only life was that simple

 

Think this one through a bit more before you accuse others of spouting nonsense

 

 

 

[KIDORIGINAL]

If every good local lad who was willing to boycott the match did so then his seat would only be filled by one of many glory-supporters from overseas. A match boycott is only going to happen if we get massive numbers to participate but it could end up very messy if we tried it. And by messy I mean violence, the police would hate it. Not going into the match would all be well but people with tickets would still want to get in, defeating the object of the protest so they'd have to be blocked as well.

 

Not going to happen.

[Billy Dane]

If every good local lad who was willing to boycott the match did so then his seat would only be filled by one of many glory-supporters from overseas.

 

 

Taking the piss I assume?

[redjersey]

Taking the piss I assume?

I suspect he's quite serious. Them fecking OOCs eh?

[Red2Core]

all ST holder take a srew driver an take ya seat with you f*** them glory huntin oot f*****s

[KIDORIGINAL]

Taking the piss I assume?

 

No. Why would I be taking the piss?

[Kite]

No. Why would I be taking the piss?

To save you sounding like a complete moron perhaps?

[Drexl]

If every good local lad who was willing to boycott the match did so then his seat would only be filled by one of many glory-supporters from overseas. A match boycott is only going to happen if we get massive numbers to participate but it could end up very messy if we tried it. And by messy I mean violence, the police would hate it. Not going into the match would all be well but people with tickets would still want to get in, defeating the object of the protest so they'd have to be blocked as well.

 

Not going to happen.

Yes. Lots of glory these days.

[KIDORIGINAL]

To save you sounding like a complete moron perhaps?

 

Still don't get it. If a local lad gives up his seat to send a message, it will be filled by one of many who don't get it.

[mofus77]

Still don't get it. If a local lad gives up his seat to send a message, it will be filled by one of many who don't get it.

 

It's your assumption that a local lad understands the problems more than anyone else. Which is complete nonsense to be honest.

[Cheesecake]

The only thing Yank1 and Yank2 understand is money from their franchise. Anything that stems the flow from that is a good thing. Dont go to the club shop, dont subscribe to LFC TV, dont buy the team shirt, actively discourage sponsors if you are in a position of authority to do so, dont buy the match programme, do not renew your season ticket until the last allowable date or at all, dont go to the game - this would be very effective but useless unless its mass numbers but you can make a difference in doing the other points.

 

Do tell other fans why you are doing any of the above, do use your contacts in whatever industry/business to enlighten them about the rape of our club, do encourage other fans to do the same, do ensure that any fan you talk to is totally aware how the club is being raped by its current custodians (there a laff) do something for f*** sake but do not sit on your hands and do nothing.

 

Edit - get this scum away from my greatest love.

Edited May 30, 2010 by DPD1973

[Molby]

It's your assumption that a local lad understands the problems more than anyone else. Which is complete nonsense to be honest.

 

actually, tbf it's not nonsense

 

not wanting to have a dig at oocers or whatever and I think perhaps there was a better way of putting across the point that if you give up your ticket then there will be another 5 people queuing up to get it

 

but, Hillsborough will be closest to the local consciousness, by definition

[richwilks]

not wanting to have a dig at oocers or whatever and I think perhaps there was a better way of putting across the point that if you give up your ticket then there will be another 5 people queuing up to get it

 

 

Thats right, if someone gives up their ticket someone will be there to get it. To say that only locals understand the problems at the club is moronic.

[Rocheteau]

actually, tbf it's not nonsense

 

not wanting to have a dig at oocers or whatever and I think perhaps there was a better way of putting across the point that if you give up your ticket then there will be another 5 people queuing up to get it

 

but, Hillsborough will be closest to the local consciousness, by definition

 

God sake, when you are in a hole stop digging

 

So now, ooc'ers aren't valued because they dont understand Hillsborough, talk about being devisive. I shudder when I see people bringing in these delicate issues in support of dodgy arguments

 

and what about those glory seeking foreign players in the team, does the scouse first mentality apply here

 

If its about history, Liverpool has always welcomed and given sanctuary to people from outside its borders its in the blood, or at least so I felt, when did we become a microcosm of little england

 

 

 

[Molby]

Thats right, if someone gives up their ticket someone will be there to get it. To say that only locals understand the problems at the club is moronic.

 

ok, but nobody said that

 

God sake, when you are in a hole stop digging

 

So now, ooc'ers aren't valued because they dont understand Hillsborough, talk about being devisive. I shudder when I see people bringing in these delicate issues in support of dodgy arguments

 

and what about those glory seeking foreign players in the team, does the scouse first mentality apply here

 

If its about history, Liverpool has always welcomed and given sanctuary to people from outside its borders its in the blood, or at least so I felt, when did we become a microcosm of little england

 

 

 

 

 

 

actually, forget the Hillsborough bit - I got my threads mixed up and thought KID was referring to it

 

I was also given sanctuary in Liverpool btw

and that's me done on the oocer issue

 

 

[redjersey]

If a local lad gives up his seat to send a message, it will be filled by one of many who don't get it.

Of which some will also be 'local lads'.

Edited May 30, 2010 by Redjersey

[Gunga Din]

Of which some will also be 'local lads'.

 

correct.but either way, the OP in his assertion that boycotting the game is simple and will be effective is talking s****. for a boycott to work, the majority will need to stop going, and those seats will have to remain empty. now, i dont blame people who dont get the chance to get to many games for then snapping up the tickets that become available, but unfortunately it causes more problems than it will solve. if there could be a guarantee that ST holders who didnt renew would get their ST back when the club was sold, i think you'd see a massive boycott. however, that is impossible, and i dont know anyone who would be willing to give up their ST.

 

Its very easy for someone who doesnt go the game, or goes to 2 or 3 a season to say, "boycott the game", but when going the game is something you do 2 or 3 times a week, and becomes such an important part of your life, then it isnt an easy thing to do, especially when you've shelled out for all home games up front

[Flasher]

With all the media coverage lately, both local and national, I suspect protests, sit-ins and marches will be bigger next season. Those that have chosen to ignore things and focus entirely on Rafa may have had their eyes opened now.

 

Rafas performance and that of our players can not be ignored totally, but quite frankly, who could have done any better with the summer they had to contend with. All of them are far closer to the details than we are, and look how miserable they were all season.

 

For those that think G&H are here for a while yet, which may well be most of us at the moment, perhaps more effort is needed to create a noise and a disturbance.

 

People don't have to boycott games, but they can do things to let G&H know that we are capable. Capable of organising ourselves on mass. Capable of seriously denting their revenues.

 

For example, getting the Kop to turn round and face the other way during a game. That simple move says two things 1. We are united in our opinion and desire to get the owners out and 2. Most importantly, we are organised.

 

From that point you can make all sorts of threats that will impact revenues.

 

The power in unions is their size and organisation and such the threat of what they could and might do.

Edited May 30, 2010 by Flasher

[RedLars]

correct.but either way, the OP in his assertion that boycotting the game is simple and will be effective is talking s****. for a boycott to work, the majority will need to stop going, and those seats will have to remain empty. now, i dont blame people who dont get the chance to get to many games for then snapping up the tickets that become available, but unfortunately it causes more problems than it will solve. if there could be a guarantee that ST holders who didnt renew would get their ST back when the club was sold, i think you'd see a massive boycott. however, that is impossible, and i dont know anyone who would be willing to give up their ST.

 

Its very easy for someone who doesnt go the game, or goes to 2 or 3 a season to say, "boycott the game", but when going the game is something you do 2 or 3 times a week, and becomes such an important part of your life, then it isnt an easy thing to do, especially when you've shelled out for all home games up front

 

Agree that not renewing once season ticket is not going to work.

 

Do you think it would be possible to get most (all) ST holders to join a boycott of one game? The aim would be a game shown live on sky in front of an empty Anfield. Obviously it would not have the financial effect we would like but it would be a step in the right direction.

[Flight]

I don't think we should take it as fact that if we give up seats others will take them up.

 

Did attendances fall over the last two months more than in other seasons ? Maybe, maybe not. The point is attendances fall when expectation does.

 

 

As long as Hicks is here we will slide further down the table and play more mediocre football. Will the ground still be full when we are struggling for seventh place and playing dire football ?

 

 

 

I do think a call from SoS or similar to boycott would work, but it would have to be preceeded by a PR campaign to educate further our supporters over the underlying facts behind our present situation. That is - the numbers don't add up and the only way is down.

[KIDORIGINAL]

Of which some will also be 'local lads'.

 

It was an example. The general rule would probably suggest those based in Liverpool and Britain have a higher percentage of people aware of our situation than those who don't.

[jimbolala]

some good response there folks. until something as radical as people stopping going to the matches happens, nothing much will change, of course this needs to have a huge PR message before hand and yes people crossing "the picket line" will be educated to the problem. if people really want this to stop, direct action is the only way

[Benzo-13]

It was an example. The general rule would probably suggest those based in Liverpool and Britain have a higher percentage of people aware of our situation than those who don't.

That's a bit too generic, I think when we don't spend a penny this summer there'll be a sea change in a lot of opinions.

[richwilks]

Still don't get it. If a local lad gives up his seat to send a message, it will be filled by one of many who don't get it.

 

 

 

 

ok, but nobody said that