Justice Shirts in the Club Shop

[Mick_G]

Lads on RAOTL reckon they are selling Justice 96 LFC tops in the official shop at £54 each £12 more than it costs for a Gerrard 8 on the back.

 

Pretty f***ing naughty this if true

 

 

Edited May 29, 2010 by Tony Harrison

[owenthomas]

have these always been on sale? as in shirts with Justice pre-printed on them in the club shop??

 

my next question would be that i'd like to find out whether they're giving anything to the HJC or HFSG.. and i say that because the likes of that £12 you mention could go to help something very worthy instead of in the pockets of the club - and i don't say this as a dig towards the current owners - i'd say this regardless..

[Mick_G]

have these always been on sale? as in shirts with Justice pre-printed on them in the club shop??

 

my next question would be that i'd like to find out whether they're giving anything to the HJC or HFSG.. and i say that because the likes of that £12 you mention could go to help something very worthy instead of in the pockets of the club - and i don't say this as a dig towards the current owners - i'd say this regardless..

 

No, this is new and the lad that noticed it asked the question about any money going to hjc or hfsg. It appears the club have made a conscious decision to sell these shirts at a premium to make a profit - pretty fvcking sickening if thats the case.

 

full thread about it here on the rattle

[D.Boon]

Shamefull

[Gunga Din]

saw this on the Rattle yesterday

 

nothing short of a f***ing disgrace. whoever decided this was a good idea should be sacked

[oakie bob]

this club sinks to a new low

[Falconhoof]

I can't believe anyone would be so insensitive. Nobody working at the club would behave like that would they ?

 

There must be some other information thats not getting through about donations to related charity.

[smithdown]

Sick this.

 

Can't see any reason why they'd be at a 12quid premium unless 20 or 30 quid a shirt was going to HJC. Any less would require sackings, not just of the one who had the idea but everyone involved, shop managers and all.

Edited May 29, 2010 by smithdown

[stressederic]

I'm not even remotely surprised.

[Sion]

Yeah saw this yesterday

hopefully its just some nobhead manager's poorly judged decision rather than an order from the top.

If it is the latter, then f*** me. how low can you get.

[spacemonkey]

Just went on the official site and "created" a custom shirt like the one in the photo and the price quoted was 54 pounds. Same for Gerrard 8. Not saying they're not offering Gerrard 8 cheaper in the actual shop - maybe they are - but not sure that this is necessarily the sort of blatant profiteering that someone needs to lose their job over.

[Epic Swindle]

Seen a few of these knocking about. It's a bit tasteless to have them on view in the shop like they're actively marketing them, but if people are asking for it should the shop refuse to print them?

 

I think the price is reflected in the 7 letters and 2 numbers but you'd think they'd offer it for free or at least at a discount with the difference going to any of the support groups. A quiet word with the manager of the store should be enough.

Edited May 29, 2010 by Hansen

[Molby]

Seen a few of these knocking about. It's a bit tasteless to have them on view in the shop like they're actively marketing them, but if people are asking for it should the shop refuse to print them?

 

I think the price is reflected in the 7 letters and 2 numbers but you'd think they'd offer it for free or at least at a discount with the difference going to any of the support groups. A quiet word with the manager of the store should be enough.

 

anyone working in town Tuesday? I fancy spending my dinner hour there (KH take note, change of venue if you agree)

[KIDORIGINAL]

If the money from these shirts was going to a supporters' trust then we would have heard about it or it would be specifically marked on the shirts. It's absolutely f***ing disgusting that the club itself is trying to make money out of the deaths of our own supporters and people need to be sacked for this. We're becoming an absolute joke, everything I love about Liverpool Football Club is being assaulted at the moment and it's heart-breaking.

[Rocheteau]

Its tacky alright when you think about it, on the other hand its possible that some idiot thought it would be a good idea not intending offence

 

supporting the idea of justice as a gerrard shirt supports the player

 

Look, I'm not trying to be awkward, argumentative or naive, especially over this particular issue but sometimes we do tend to read more into these things than is really necessary

 

sign of the times i suppose

[Falconhoof]

Just went on the official site and "created" a custom shirt like the one in the photo and the price quoted was 54 pounds. Same for Gerrard 8. Not saying they're not offering Gerrard 8 cheaper in the actual shop - maybe they are - but not sure that this is necessarily the sort of blatant profiteering that someone needs to lose their job over.

 

interesting. So we may have to accept that £54 is just the standard price for shirt and printing.

[Epic Swindle]

Its tacky alright when you think about it, on the other hand its possible that some idiot thought it would be a good idea not intending offence

 

supporting the idea of justice as a gerrard shirt supports the player

 

Look, I'm not trying to be awkward, argumentative or naive, especially over this particular issue but sometimes we do tend to read more into these things than is really necessary

 

sign of the times i suppose

 

I think that's fair. I've seen a few of these so there's obviously personal demand for the print and it could just be some overzealous store manager trying to cut corners. What bothers me is they had it/them on show like they were actively trying to promote them.

 

Everyone is on edge and looking for a battle and that frustration mirrors the lack of direction the club is going in. I'd seriously take hitting rock bottom if it meant owners with good intentions and a chance to rebuild.

[Cam]

Not saying they're not offering Gerrard 8 cheaper in the actual shop - maybe they are

Mention that in the Transfer thread and watch it go in to meltdown.

[Molby]

If the money from these shirts was going to a supporters' trust then we would have heard about it or it would be specifically marked on the shirts. It's absolutely f***ing disgusting that the club itself is trying to make money out of the deaths of our own supporters and people need to be sacked for this. We're becoming an absolute joke, everything I love about Liverpool Football Club is being assaulted at the moment and it's heart-breaking.

 

For me, it's just staggering that they would need to be told what the protocol is

 

sell the shirts if people want them - fine, and it helps the cause, but obviously some of the money has to go to the campaign - really, what is there to think about?

[Red Kent]

Been thinking about this for a while and my feelings on the subject have swung one way then another.

 

1. The club will let you put any name and number or combination of both within reason for many years. Remember the 'WE ALL 8 MANCS" one ? The club would have made a profit from this without issue.

 

2. I have seen many fans with "Justice 96" and a few variations "RIP 96" etc on Liverpool shirts, and no doubt the club made a profit from this without issue. Has anyone asked someone wearing a shirt with Justice on if a donation was made to the HJC ? I doubt it because this shirt has never been an issue until now.

 

3. If you go into the shop you will see printed shirts in all sizes of the most popular choice - Gerrard & Torres, and obviously Reina on the goalkeeper's top, this is due to demand and for ease of shopping.

 

4. "Justice 96" is obviously another popular choice (unfortunately - as we all wish it wasn't there), and the club in accordance with the popular choices have made the decision to have them 'ready made'.

 

5. So what exactly is the issue ? The club have always charged extra for names and numbers, so why is this an issue now ?.

 

What is the difference between the club selling 30 "Justice 96" shirts on a singular basis causing time and queues than having those 30 shirts 'readily available ?

 

I understand that anything the club does is up for scrutiny whilst these two are in charge but to use this issue as a weapon in than fight doesn't fit right with me.

[magneto]

Agree with Kev. I think however that if any shirt is bought with any reference to Hillsborough, a 10 quid donation should be made to the HJC (although the club is more in touch with the HFSG)

[Sion]

Been thinking about this for a while and my feelings on the subject have swung one way then another.

 

1. The club will let you put any name and number or combination of both within reason for many years. Remember the 'WE ALL 8 MANCS" one ? The club would have made a profit from this without issue.

 

2. I have seen many fans with "Justice 96" and a few variations "RIP 96" etc on Liverpool shirts, and no doubt the club made a profit from this without issue. Has anyone asked someone wearing a shirt with Justice on if a donation was made to the HJC ? I doubt it because this shirt has never been an issue until now.

 

3. If you go into the shop you will see printed shirts in all sizes of the most popular choice - Gerrard & Torres, and obviously Reina on the goalkeeper's top, this is due to demand and for ease of shopping.

 

4. "Justice 96" is obviously another popular choice (unfortunately - as we all wish it wasn't there), and the club in accordance with the popular choices have made the decision to have them 'ready made'.

 

5. So what exactly is the issue ? The club have always charged extra for names and numbers, so why is this an issue now ?.

 

What is the difference between the club selling 30 "Justice 96" shirts on a singular basis causing time and queues than having those 30 shirts 'readily available ?

 

I understand that anything the club does is up for scrutiny whilst these two are in charge but to use this issue as a weapon in than fight doesn't fit right with me.

 

It is because they are actively using it to try and sell shirts by having them on display and profiteering off the 96. Do you honestly think this is just an ease of sale thing? Its obviously going to increase sales having them out on display.

[Red Kent]

Agree with Kev. I think however that if any shirt is bought with any reference to Hillsborough, a 10 quid donation should be made to the HJC (although the club is more in touch with the HFSG)

 

Definately, and this must be the way forward.

 

It is because they are actively using it to try and sell shirts by having them on display and profiteering off the 96. Do you honestly think this is just an ease of sale thing? Its obviously going to increase sales having them out on display.

 

OK, I accept your point as I believe there is no right or wrong answer, and playing devil's advocate here.

 

Do you think the club are helping promote the fact that the fight for justice is still going on by actively selling the shirt ?

 

Imagine a scenerio were a supporter sees the shirt and thinks to themselves "I didn't know the club would let you put that on a shirt", and so buys one where normally he wouldn't and by doing this is helping putting the message out there ?

[downunder]

Definately, and this must be the way forward.

 

 

 

OK, I accept your point as I believe there is no right or wrong answer, and playing devil's advocate here.

 

Do you think the club are helping promote the fact that the fight for justice is still going on by actively selling the shirt ?

 

Imagine a scenerio were a supporter sees the shirt and thinks to themselves "I didn't know the club would let you put that on a shirt", and so buys one where normally he wouldn't and by doing this is helping putting the message out there ?

 

I do think its wrong what they did, but I think anyone who bought one of the shirts would have bought one with a name on anyway.

[Molby]

you can justify it by using Kev's approach

 

bu this reminds me of that Sherry advert "one instictively knows when something is right" and increasingly, we (LFC) don't