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Stand correected but we've never won there in the league since they've been back. Have given a few of our "rivals" a tough time.

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We're gonna be leggy against these due to the ten men but we can do them with an early goal and breaks on the counter.

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If this is the team, and I fear it will be, then I'm throwin' an Andy fit and burning my season ticket etc

 

 

---------------------------Reina

 

The Johnson----Carra----Agger----Insua

 

Kuyt---------Masch--------Lucas--------Maxi

 

------------Gerrard-------Torres

 

 

.....unless we win.

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If this is the team, and I fear it will be, then I'm throwin' an Andy fit and burning my season ticket etc

 

 

---------------------------Reina

 

The Johnson----Carra----Agger----Insua

 

Kuyt---------Masch--------Lucas--------Maxi

 

------------Gerrard-------Torres

 

 

.....unless we win.

 

That team is everything I hate about Rafa's approach this season, basically the tactic is just hope Gerrard and Torres do something with no support from a slow / deep lying midfield. Is Babel suspended from all forms of football or just Europe? He's been a first choice player for some time now.

 

If its just Europe then I think he'll play as he only had twenty minutes or so the other day. This is the thing, take an unneccesary Defensive Midfielder (preferably Lucas) out and put a pacey wide player in and it completely corrects the balance of the side to what it should be.

Edited by Leo No.8
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That team is everything I hate about Rafa's approach this season, basically the tactic is just hope Gerrard and Torres do something with no support from a slow / deep lying midfield. Is Babel suspended from all forms of football or just Europe? He's been a first choice player for some time now.

 

If its just Europe then I think he'll play as he only had twenty minutes or so the other day. This is the thing, take an unneccesary Defensive Midfielder (preferably Lucas) out and put a pacey wide player in and it completely corrects the balance of the side to what it should be.

 

I think there is next to zero chanxce that Lucas and Masch aren't paired. There's a chance Babel is preferred ahead of Maxi. A slim one.

 

The right team to go with for this one is the team that beat Sunderland.

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I think there is next to zero chanxce that Lucas and Masch aren't paired. There's a chance Babel is preferred ahead of Maxi. A slim one.

 

The right team to go with for this one is the team that beat Sunderland.

 

Agreed - which would be exactly the above, just Babel in for Lucas. If Babel does play then it won't be instead of Maxi; I think Maxi is going to be one of Rafa's 'first names on the teamsheet' you can tell just how much he thinks of him from his post match comments and team selections.

 

I don't mind Maxi and Kuyt both playing as long as one isn't wide and Lucas is sacrificed. Lucas and Masch can both play as long as Babel is in.

 

As I've said before with the right wide players (with pace) two holding midfielders can work, and with an extra attacking midfielder in the middle you can fit both the slow moving Kuyt and Maxi into the team. However you can't put them all in at once because it completely unbalances the side and leaves the front two very isolated because we can't move the ball through midfield quickly enough and don't get numbers forward.

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After taking a massive kicking on Thursday night, am I the only one who would leave Torres on the bench and give him a rest against a physical side? Unless we play Babel or Kuyt next to him, I don't want to see him in this one (from the start at least). I'd start with a 4-4-2 and see how it goes;

Reina

Johnson Carragher Agger Insua

Maxi Gerrard Mascherano Benayoun

Babel Kuyt

Not gonna be easy to win but we can definitely do it if we play fast football down the wings.

 

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After taking a massive kicking on Thursday night, am I the only one who would leave Torres on the bench and give him a rest against a physical side? Unless we play Babel or Kuyt next to him, I don't want to see him in this one (from the start at least). I'd start with a 4-4-2 and see how it goes;

Reina

Johnson Carragher Agger Insua

Maxi Gerrard Mascherano Benayoun

Babel Kuyt

Not gonna be easy to win but we can definitely do it if we play fast football down the wings.

 

 

That's a nice team, but this game is arguably more important than Benfica.

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I would start with the greek. He has to play on thursday so why not play him now?

Gerrard to midfield. We play so much better.

 

 

I'm inclined to agree with that. Presumably you would put Agger in Insua's place? And why isn't anyone mentioning Benayoun? Midfield - Kuyt, Gerrard, Masch, Maxi. Upfront, Yossi and Torres. Simples smile.gif

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That team is everything I hate about Rafa's approach this season

 

First, I love you Leo.

 

Second, I think that's a bit harsh. Babel & Rieira have been tosh for most of the season, and with Yossi's and Aqua's injuries Rafa doesn't have much to choose from. I do think you're right that he's relying on Stevie and Nando to do something magical, but there aren't many other options.

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