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[Rory Fitzgerald]

Crikey, this lad needs Aurelio back quickly so that he can catch a break. The lad looked a right prospect when he broke into the team and ideally, he would have played half the games he has played this season but at the moment he is getting caught out something shocking.

 

He wasnt helped much with Babel being sent off but some of his defending prior to that was very alarming.

 

To be honest, I am glad he was booked today and Rafa has to re-assess for next week, I think it will help us. At least if we can anchor a solid LB like Carra there then a player like Benayoun or Babel can worry less at defending.

 

Anyway, the kid deserves a break. I have not totally lost faith in him but he is becoming more and more of a liability in my mind. I generally look at the bookings market on Paddy Power and when they offer that market for a Pool game, I back Insua, its at that stage for me.

[dl2009]

I think you're completely wrong about his performance. In fact, I can demonstrate how wrong you are by drawing a diagram with non-parallel parallel lines.

[Epic Swindle]

I'm beginning to lose faith. He's rubbish isn't he.

[lfc003]

I just feel sorry for him now, Obviously our weak link and gets targeted every game.

[MFletcher]

He's a young player who's been thrown into the deep end because there is no-one else for the position. He's not good enough to be a fixture in the side yet, but we're asking him to be because we're f***ed for options there.

 

It's getting to the stage where I'd stick Agger there and play Kyrgiakos in the middle. I really, really don't like the idea of moving Agger out of position and putting a square peg in a round hole, and I am sure I rallied against the idea a while ago, but it's something we really need to look at. I feel sorry for him, and we're effectively playing without a proper back four.

 

Aurelio can't come back quickly enough.

[Cam]

He's clearly a bit thick.

 

When we were all too nice on the pitch we called out for a Paul Scholes type - someone who will sacrifice themselves a booking for bringing someone down. Now we have 3 who do it in ridiculous circumstances and positions - Insua, Lucas and Kuyt.

 

Leave it to Mascherano, FFS.

[Nebraska Red]

Insua was poor tonight, but he gets little help when Babel is on the left as Babel has no clue about tracking back and wouldn't go for a tackle if his life depended on it.

 

The lad needs a rest, but we have nobody else who can play left back.

 

Is Deggen fit?

[Red Kent]

  On 01/04/2010 at 22:13, Nebraska Red said:

Insua was poor tonight, but he gets little help when Babel is on the left as Babel has no clue about tracking back and wouldn't go for a tackle if his life depended on it.

 

The lad needs a rest, but we have nobody else who can play left back.

 

Is Deggen fit?

 

You can have an army of fusiliers in front of insua, it will not deflect from the fact that Insua is the worst left back I personally have ever seen in a Liverpool shirt, and the first left back I saw was Alec Lindsay.

[Mike]

  On 01/04/2010 at 22:35, Kev said:

You can have an army of fusiliers in front of insua, it will not deflect from the fact that Insua is the worst left back I personally have ever seen in a Liverpool shirt, and the first left back I saw was Alec Lindsay.

 

and he was s***.

 

insua's just out of his depth right now, its painful, but he shouldn't be in the team. we'd be better playing the greek and moving agger or carra.

it's been like that for a while, but it's a managerial decision. if a team targets him, we are f***ed...that doesn't always happen, such as sunderland on sunday, but good teams do it.

 

thought lucas was a waste of space as well mind. his only remit is to be a defensive mid and protect the defence, i don't think i saw him until the last 10 minutes.

[stonty]

Sadly the lad looks way out of his depth & half decent teams home in on this like a heat seeking missile

 

 

Bring Soto in (we needed a proper CH last night, all those free headers) & play Agger LB until we get someone else

[sean]

Good Lord he's quite rubbish. Their best player in fact.

[Stevie H]

not going to the world cup then? i know maradona's off his cake on ecstacy pipes but even he isn't that fruitloop.

[sean]

Poor lad looks like he's running with wellies on. Mostly back towards his own goal recovering. His distribution, which is what stood him out, is now incredibly s****. He needs dropping, for his own good as much as the side's.

[kop205]

So what happens next week then?

 

I'm going with Carra over to left back and bringing in the Greek - which given how poor Insua was, and how much Cardozo won in the air, might actually work to our advantage and give us a more solid back four (albeit not a long term option).

 

It then has to be either Masch and Gerrrad or Masch and Aquilani in Centre Mid - I'd ideally go with the former without hesitation but Babel being out complicates things because Benayoun will take his place on the left meaning that he can't take on the Gerrard role off Torres, as I'd have otherwise being looking for him to do.

 

So it looks as if Aquilani - if fit - has to play really, and it is just a question of which one of him or Gerrard plays in the middle and which plays off Torres.

[Conrad]

  On 02/04/2010 at 08:47, kop205 said:

So what happens next week then?

 

I'm going with Carra over to left back and bringing in the Greek - which given how poor Insua was, and how much Cardozo won in the air, might actually work to our advantage and give us a more solid back four (albeit not a long term option).

 

It then has to be either Masch and Gerrrad or Masch and Aquilani in Centre Mid - I'd ideally go with the former without hesitation but Babel being out complicates things because Benayoun will take his place on the left meaning that he can't take on the Gerrard role off Torres, as I'd have otherwise being looking for him to do.

 

So it looks as if Aquilani - if fit - has to play really, and it is just a question of which one of him or Gerrard plays in the middle and which plays off Torres.

 

if Aquilani is fit he plays, if Lucas plays I'll go f******* spare

 

Got to be

 

Reina

Johnson-Kyrgiakos-Agger-Carragher

Mascherano-Gerrard

Kuyt-Aquilani-Benayoun

Torres

[Mike]

  On 02/04/2010 at 08:50, Heighway 61 Revisited said:

if Aquilani is fit he plays, if Lucas plays I'll go f******* spare

 

Got to be

 

Reina

Johnson-Kyrgiakos-Agger-Carragher

Mascherano-Gerrard

Kuyt-Aquilani-Benayoun

Torres

 

lucas will play

[Gunga Din]

  On 01/04/2010 at 22:00, MFletcher said:

He's a young player who's been thrown into the deep end because there is no-one else for the position. He's not good enough to be a fixture in the side yet, but we're asking him to be because we're f***ed for options there.

 

It's getting to the stage where I'd stick Agger there and play Kyrgiakos in the middle. I really, really don't like the idea of moving Agger out of position and putting a square peg in a round hole, and I am sure I rallied against the idea a while ago, but it's something we really need to look at. I feel sorry for him, and we're effectively playing without a proper back four.

 

Aurelio can't come back quickly enough.

 

there is no one for that position because our great leader has sold everyone else capable of playing there to any standard and the only replacement is made of glass.

 

i'm actually starting to miss Riise.

[Jarg Armani]

Would you have kept Dossena until the end of the season? I think I would.

 

Riise is a nonsense shout though, everyone was made up when he went.

[Mike]

  On 02/04/2010 at 09:16, Jarg Armani said:

Would you have kept Dossena until the end of the season? I think I would.

 

Riise is a nonsense shout though, everyone was made up when he went.

 

we didn't know what we were going to be left with though

[Tones]

  On 02/04/2010 at 09:16, Jarg Armani said:

Would you have kept Dossena until the end of the season? I think I would.

 

Riise is a nonsense shout though, everyone was made up when he went.

 

Players do seem to be rated higher by our fans after they leave us.

[Jarg Armani]

  On 02/04/2010 at 09:22, Mike said:

we didn't know what we were going to be left with though

 

We shouldn't have gambled with Aurelio's fitness. We shouldn't have persisted with Insua this season when Aurelio was fit. We should have probably kept hold of Doss until the end of the season.

 

We should have sold Riise in 2004.

[Gunga Din]

  On 02/04/2010 at 09:24, t1971 said:

Players do seem to be rated higher by our fans after they leave us.

 

i dont rate riise any higher now than i did when he left. he was average then, he's average now. but average is a lot better than woefully inept

[Jarg Armani]

The answer isn't in the past for me.

 

We just need a good left back.

[Mike]

  On 02/04/2010 at 09:25, Jarg Armani said:

We shouldn't have gambled with Aurelio's fitness. We shouldn't have persisted with Insua this season when Aurelio was fit. We should have probably kept hold of Doss until the end of the season.

 

We should have sold Riise in 2004.

 

we should have sold riise in 2007/8 as long as we had a marked improvement coming in and everyone presumed we did because he had been dreadful for at least a season. the same way as you should only sell any player....only if you have better coming this way.

Edited April 2, 2010 by Mike

[Cam]

  On 02/04/2010 at 08:51, Mike said:

lucas will play

He will. And it'll be another death knell for Rafa; we're expecting a classic Euro cup-tie when we charge at them in full Attack Attack Attack mode from the start... and he plays two defensive midfielders.

 

Lucas has no urgency, no desire to get the ball forward. The only reason for him starting is if Mascherano is playing rightback.