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how is it, that the mancs can potentially raise a billion for their club, yet we struggle to raise half that? Surely we have 50,000 committed fans?

 

maybe we need to consider something a little different? Maybe we, the fans fund the new stadium repayments, and it doesn't 'belong' to the club, it belongs to the fans. Pave the way for us to own the club over time.

 

For example,

 

10 quid a week =500,000 a week, is 26million a year. We could fund the stadium with those repayments, not to mention the income from 'renting' the stadium to liverpool.

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Not that they've raised it yet, but the people involved are city financiers who make a living raising such amounts from investors, share Liverpool is led by Rogan Taylor, an academic. SL is looking for individual fans to put up amounts each, the manc group are looking for institutional backing.

 

The latter might be more realistic as it would get solid funds in place to give a chance of getting their owners to sell, and then move on to the socio model over time. It would still involve a s*** load of debt, but would at least mean the fan's cash is going toward fan ownership.

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how is it, that the mancs can potentially raise a billion for their club, yet we struggle to raise half that? Surely we have 50,000 committed fans?

 

maybe we need to consider something a little different? Maybe we, the fans fund the new stadium repayments, and it doesn't 'belong' to the club, it belongs to the fans. Pave the way for us to own the club over time.

 

For example,

 

10 quid a week =500,000 a week, is 26million a year. We could fund the stadium with those repayments, not to mention the income from 'renting' the stadium to liverpool.

 

That's an interesting idea, maybe the owners, whoever they may be, could give equity to the fans rather than pay rent.

 

Not that they've raised it yet, but the people involved are city financiers who make a living raising such amounts from investors, share Liverpool is led by Rogan Taylor, an academic. SL is looking for individual fans to put up amounts each, the manc group are looking for institutional backing.

 

The latter might be more realistic as it would get solid funds in place to give a chance of getting their owners to sell, and then move on to the socio model over time. It would still involve a s*** load of debt, but would at least mean the fan's cash is going toward fan ownership.

 

There were whispers a few months back that SL had a few big backers prepared to stick cash in and that the structure of their proposals might need to change. Personally I think that's the only way SL can ever get off the ground, with wealthy backers underwriting the cost and fans basically paying them back on their investment.

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That's an interesting idea, maybe the owners, whoever they may be, could give equity to the fans rather than pay rent.

 

 

 

There were whispers a few months back that SL had a few big backers prepared to stick cash in and that the structure of their proposals might need to change. Personally I think that's the only way SL can ever get off the ground, with wealthy backers underwriting the cost and fans basically paying them back on their investment.

 

 

I think it's the only way to get to fan ownership realistically.

 

I do like the idea of fans putting in for the stadium and getting a share of the club in return, but you'd have to be in good relations with the owners....

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I think it's the only way to get to fan ownership realistically.

 

I do like the idea of fans putting in for the stadium and getting a share of the club in return, but you'd have to be in good relations with the owners....

 

I imagine it'd be an attractive proposition (as opposed to a minority partner) in the sense that the fans wouldn't want dividends on their share

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