Gray - YPC Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 Graham Smith from SOS posted this elsewhere: At 8.00pm this evening on Five Live (and broadcast on TV simultaneously on BBC News) there is a 'Business in Sport' special programme with Mark Pougatch in Manchester. Four of the Union Committee are attending with the hope to contribute to the discussion and raise the problems we have at LFC While titled "Business in Sport" it is likely to focus significantly on football. Followed by:We've been called by the programme and asked to phrase a question for the panel which currently seems to be David Gold, a PL spokesperson, Hugh Pym (BBC Economics) and David Bonds (currently with the Telegraph but about to be BBC Sports Editor). We're working on that. This will be after 9.00pm once it goes solely out on Five Live - they've clearly seen that we have faces for radio. Worth a watch!
Bailo Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 How much longer and louder have we been protesting against our owners than the Mancs? Seems like the media jumped on the ownership "problem" only when they started kicking up a fuss.
Hassony Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 How much longer and louder have we been protesting against our owners than the Mancs? Seems like the media jumped on the ownership "problem" only when they started kicking up a fuss. yes, up until recently the likes of richard keys kept mentioning crazy figures that the owners have supposedly backed rafa with
JRC Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 How much longer and louder have we been protesting against our owners than the Mancs? Seems like the media jumped on the ownership "problem" only when they started kicking up a fuss. They were very vocal at first, until ongoing success meant the protests were swamped by the less concerned majority who didn't really care as long as they were winning.The FC United thing was well handled - continues to be - but they've only come back strong recently with the scarf thing. I think that that trajectory is one we will see/are seeing - adjusted for lack of success - as initial protest is dulled by general apathy, only for the significance to become apparent to more. The Utd protesters had their shabby moments - violence/threats etc - as have SOS tbf - some stuff has looked half-cocked - but no-one has the cheat guide for running such a campaign, so mistakes are inevitable, and it seems to me that SOS are getting their act together in the same way the Mancs have been doing - to the extent that I may now sign up myself, an inveterate non-joiner generally, and previously skeptical about SOS specifically.
Jarg Armani Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 They were very vocal at first, until ongoing success meant the protests were swamped by the less concerned majority who didn't really care as long as they were winning.The FC United thing was well handled - continues to be - but they've only come back strong recently with the scarf thing. I think that that trajectory is one we will see/are seeing - adjusted for lack of success - as initial protest is dulled by general apathy, only for the significance to become apparent to more. The Utd protesters had their shabby moments - violence/threats etc - as have SOS tbf - some stuff has looked half-cocked - but no-one has the cheat guide for running such a campaign, so mistakes are inevitable, and it seems to me that SOS are getting their act together in the same way the Mancs have been doing - to the extent that I may now sign up myself, an inveterate non-joiner generally, and previously skeptical about SOS specifically. lots of new members recently, which is heartening.
floyd Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 (edited) How much longer and louder have we been protesting against our owners than the Mancs? Seems like the media jumped on the ownership "problem" only when they started kicking up a fuss.so I wasn't the only one thinking that. Fvckin BBC juming on it now, due to no doubt being led by author off two Man Ure books, and sports editor Mihir "the tw4t" BoseBBC want too cut costs, I suugest sacking this fvckin waste of space is a good start Edited March 2, 2010 by floyd
Bailo Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 so I wasn't the only one thinking that. Fvckin BBC juming on it now, due to no doubt being led by author off two Man Ure books, and sports editor Mihir "the tw4t" BoseBBC want too cut costs, I suugest sacking this fvckin waste of space is a good startI think you're going to get your wish aren't you? David Bonds is taking over soon, think Bose has been seen as a bit of a chancer.
Rimbeux Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 They were very vocal at first, until ongoing success meant the protests were swamped by the less concerned majority who didn't really care as long as they were winning.The FC United thing was well handled - continues to be - but they've only come back strong recently with the scarf thing. I think that that trajectory is one we will see/are seeing - adjusted for lack of success - as initial protest is dulled by general apathy, only for the significance to become apparent to more. The Utd protesters had their shabby moments - violence/threats etc - as have SOS tbf - some stuff has looked half-cocked - but no-one has the cheat guide for running such a campaign, so mistakes are inevitable, and it seems to me that SOS are getting their act together in the same way the Mancs have been doing - to the extent that I may now sign up myself, an inveterate non-joiner generally, and previously skeptical about SOS specifically. You are right, there have been lots of Man U protests for years regarding their ownership going back to the plc, this current wave was started by the revelations over how much the Glazers were taking out and the bond issue if I've got my memory right.
JRC Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 You are right, there have been lots of Man U protests for years regarding their ownership going back to the plc, this current wave was started by the revelations over how much the Glazers were taking out and the bond issue if I've got my memory right.Correct.It's also true that much of our protesting hasn't been as effective or newsworthy as we tend to view it, mainly because it looks more important to us from the inside, I think. As I say, that's not so in every case, and it feels like it's changing as SOS finds its feet, but tbh, we could probably learn from the Utd protestors; even, say it soft, make some common cause. We share more interests and perspective than we care to admit sometimes with those Scum B*st*rds...sorry, force of habit... The NW regional footy programme a few weeks back had an SOS and Utd protester rep on together, but no real identification with each other as I recall, although I'm sure they chatted off air.
The Hitman Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 I think you're going to get your wish aren't you? David Bonds is taking over soon, think Bose has been seen as a bit of a chancer.Bose left ages ago, he refused to move to Salford.Now works for the Evening Standard.
Gomez Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 Bose left ages ago, he refused to move to Salford.Now works for the Evening Standard. It wasn't quite his decision from what I heard.
Gomez Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 How did this go? Is it worth catching on iPlayer or did they just concentrate on the mancs?
PeeG Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 How did this go? Is it worth catching on iPlayer or did they just concentrate on the mancs? The top table didn't have a clue basically. It was on for an extra half hour on 5live. We got asked to ask a question in this. Aroun 1hr22 into this http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00r35t4/5_live_Sport_Business_of_Sport/
pipnasty Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 How much longer and louder have we been protesting against our owners than the Mancs? Seems like the media jumped on the ownership "problem" only when they started kicking up a fuss. I've spent the last 12 months trying to get both Panorama and Dispatches to take up the story of debt in football. Been down to London a few times and met up with Producers and Commissioning Editors. Obviously my main concern was Liverpool but the proposal had to be widened in order to make it a national interest. I got pretty close to getting something sorted on a few occassions but it was only when the United story 'broke' that ears really pricked up. I'm still hopeful but who knows.
Hieronymus Bosch Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 I've spent the last 12 months trying to get both Panorama and Dispatches to take up the story of debt in football. Been down to London a few times and met up with Producers and Commissioning Editors. Obviously my main concern was Liverpool but the proposal had to be widened in order to make it a national interest. I got pretty close to getting something sorted on a few occassions but it was only when the United story 'broke' that ears really pricked up. I'm still hopeful but who knows.If you help to get the Mancs out of debt, I'll come looking for you.
pipnasty Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 If you help to get the Mancs out of debt, I'll come looking for you. It has actually played on my mind a little
fabfive Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 The top table didn't have a clue basically. It was on for an extra half hour on 5live. We got asked to ask a question in this. Aroun 1hr22 into this http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00r35t4/5_live_Sport_Business_of_Sport/ Blocked at work. Can you fill us in?
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