Dutch Players Names

[New York Red]

Not the long ones like Van der Kerkhoff or Vennegoor of Hasselink, but the Christian names. What's with that? Why are they so old?

 

Edwin

Edgar

Roy

Wilfred

Clarence

Stan

Ronald

Winston

Ernest

Bert

Arnold

Victor

 

They all seem to be be born in the 50's-70's too.

 

I also found a bloke named c**k van der Tuyn.

[cymrococh]

All those French names are mental as well.

 

Can't they spell Terry?

[Red Kent]

Cloggist !

[crisps]

couple more from the Ajax squad and others at the moment: -

 

Timothy

Geoffrey

Bryan

Mitchell Donald

Kenneth

Gregory

Cedric

[New York Red]

All those French names are mental as well.

 

Can't they spell Terry?

 

Peter too. Bloody foreigners eh?

[ManxRed]

Those names, they are sheckshy, no?

[Cobs]

for sure

[Walrus]

Shteve McChlaren

[Rory Fitzgerald]

Erwin

Hans

[New York Red]

couple more from the Ajax squad and others at the moment: -

 

Timothy

Geoffrey

Bryan

Mitchell Donald

Kenneth

Gregory

Cedric

 

I'd kind of like to be called Cedric. Top name that.

[Leo No.8]

Gary Neville's name in Dutch is Garet Van Sock Sucker.

[New York Red]

Gary Neville's name in Dutch is Garet Van Sock Sucker.

 

It is not. You'd better improve on your Dutch mate.

 

It is actually Gerrit van B*llock Breath Butthole Licker Scumbag of Douchbagberg

[Rory Fitzgerald]

Gary Neville's name in Dutch is Garet Van Sock Sucker.

 

[surf]

Not the long ones like Van der Kerkhoff or Vennegoor of Hasselink, but the Christian names. What's with that? Why are they so old?

 

Edwin

Edgar

Roy

Wilfred

Clarence

Stan

Ronald

Winston

Ernest

Bert

Arnold

Victor

 

They all seem to be be born in the 50's-70's too.

 

I also found a bloke named c**k van der Tuyn.

 

you're american and you really want to start a discussion on ridiculous names?

Edited January 23, 2010 by surf

[fyds]

Other popular ones:

 

Ronald (never Ron or Ronny!)

Alfred

Jack

George (often pronounced (Zhj-osh)

Dennis

Reginald

 

But my favourites are the locals:

Arie

Wim

Jop

Cor

Aad

Jos

Foeke

Kok

Henk

Pik

Benk

 

...sounds like someone falling downstairs

[New York Red]

you're american and you really want to start a discussion on ridiculous names?

 

Feel free to start a thread like that. I happen to agree.

 

You could say the same in Britain too don't you think?

 

I happen to think that is is an interesting phenomenon that there is a whole generation of Dutch players with disused English blokes names from the early 20th century.

[Kvarme Ate My Food]

I happen to think that is is an interesting phenomenon that there is a whole generation of Dutch players with disused English blokes names from the early 20th century.

 

I'm having that.

[surf]

Feel free to start a thread like that. I happen to agree.

 

You could say the same in Britain too don't you think?

 

I happen to think that is is an interesting phenomenon that there is a whole generation of Dutch players with disused English blokes names from the early 20th century.

 

Most of the Dutch players with 'disused English names' are the players from Dutch Suriname. If you look at the history of Suriname it started out as an English colony in the 17th century, with a number of plantations and a few thousand slaves. I'd imagine the slaves were given English names of the time. Not much later the Dutch invaded the colony and assumed control.

So that explains the origin of the Suriname names.

 

With some of the rest you'll find they're Germanic names that have been used in Holland for centuries. Just because you lot are starting to call your kids Jade, Summer, Apple and Memphis Eve doesn't mean the rest of us have gone equally haywire and stopped using good proper names.

Edited January 24, 2010 by surf

[boohog]

 

Arie

Wim

Jop

Cor

Aad

Jos

Foeke

Kok

Henk

Pik

Benk

 

...sounds like someone falling downstairs

 

[New York Red]

Most of the Dutch players with 'disused English names' are the players from Dutch Suriname. If you look at the history of Suriname it started out as an English colony in the 17th century, with a number of plantations and a few thousand slaves. I'd imagine the slaves were given English names of the time. Not much later the Dutch invaded the colony and assumed control.

So that explains the origin of the Suriname names.

 

With some of the rest you'll find they're Germanic names that have been used in Holland for centuries. Just because you lot are starting to call your kids Jade, Summer, Apple and Memphis Eve doesn't mean the rest of us have gone equally haywire and stopped using good proper names.

 

Nice theory. But probably not accurate. I did find this from the 18th century.

 

http://www.history-magazine.com/1750s.html

 

But regarding your side point.

 

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/OACT/babynames/decades/names2000s.html

 

Hardly haywire really...

 

By the way, who is "you lot" and "rest of us"?

[surf]

Nice theory. But probably not accurate. I did find this from the 18th century.

 

http://www.history-m....com/1750s.html

 

But regarding your side point.

 

http://www.socialsec...names2000s.html

 

Hardly haywire really...

 

By the way, who is "you lot" and "rest of us"?

 

 

you're 100 years out so i'm sticking to my theory, it sounds quite plausible

 

and "you lot" is everyone that disagrees with me and "rest of us" is everyone that agrees with me

[New York Red]

you're 100 years out so i'm sticking to my theory, it sounds quite plausible

 

and "you lot" is everyone that disagrees with me and "rest of us" is everyone that agrees with me

 

Pre 1600 and post 1700 names are remarkably similar.

 

http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/brasses/menfreq.html

[surf]

your table of english brass inscriptions name frequencies totally blows my earlier argument out of the water

[New York Red]

your table of english brass inscriptions name frequencies totally blows my earlier argument out of the water

 

Yes. It does doesn't it.

 

Perhaps you have another source to support your argument?

 

You had a great theory. You really did. But unfortunately there were no facts to back it up.

 

I still think it is an odd and presently unexplained phenomenon.

Edited January 24, 2010 by New York Red

[smithdown]

Phhhhfffffff.

 

I don't have time for this.